Toriel's Patience (end)

[Alisae]

shhh,

dunn

is town and is getting flipped regardless, dont worry about it

Is that a Toriel mechanic or because Dunn is Toriel they are going to get flipped regardless?

Dunn always dies

[Taly]

my impulses are screaming to townbin

rce

[Taly]

Hi Sakura! I don’t have any confidence reading you. So a little summarization of why you’re town would be helpful.

You could try following your predecessor:

I think sakura is kinda townie

I think the main thread roleplaying was even funnier at some points though

but maybe that's just me

p-edit: Sakura...townie?

she's got a lot of idc energy

sakura is probably the easiest player in the playerlist to read and she's p townie so far

she's more self conscious as mafia and makes posts that feel like she's thought them through more

I think Ari summarized it very well in those posts. I'm bringing her since she's your pre-predecessor and you know her alignment.
If you ask me, all i can say is that i dont have any confidence in explaining anything this game, not even myself, been lost for the majority of it and a lot have been gut pings.

Also you should know that im currently busy IRL, and so i only read and post in bursts.

I like this. I’m inclined to trust aristeia’s take.

like does a scum rep-in make this post on a suspected predecessor

[RCEnigma]

I AM NOT A FUCKING COSPLAYER CHARACTER

Lol

[RCEnigma]

shhh,

dunn

is town and is getting flipped regardless, dont worry about it

Is that a Toriel mechanic or because Dunn is Toriel they are going to get flipped regardless?

Dunn always dies

This is good news.

[implosion]

like does a scum rep-in make this post on a suspected predecessor

Why do you think they don't?

[Taly]

i think its less likely scum does it because its showing a belief in a town alignment to defend or understand ones predecessor

its fakeable, but i view predecessors like dead masons or dead scum partners

viewing your predecessor with either curiosity, critical thinking, or understanding is a sign of good faith that is AI

[Taly]

its one thing for

rce

to justify why or why not they should be suspected through their predecessor, its another to put themselves in the mindset of their predecessor

[Taly]

and also, im kind of starving for townreads here so

[Taly]

like ngl im up for wagoning about half this plist rn tbh

[implosion]

i think its less likely scum does it because its showing a belief in a town alignment to defend or understand ones predecessor

its fakeable, but i view predecessors like dead masons or dead scum partners

viewing your predecessor with either curiosity, critical thinking, or understanding is a sign of good faith that is AI

I feel like this is giving a lot of credit where it isn't due. Sakura is the one who proposed this framing, RCE literally just said "yeah, that seems good to me".

and also, im kind of starving for townreads here so

This is fair and also interesting. I am trying to let my d1 townreads kind of evaporate a little. But this does feel like a little bit of a drastic shift

[Taly]

meuh

was my one confident scumread, them flipping town earns a drastic shift

and if im giving

rce

too much credit from the framing, how do you read their rep-in yourself?

[Taly]

like my worldview of the game D1 was proven incorrect, thats how i view

meuh

townflip

[implosion]

I do think Sakura is probably worth adding to your super-town list at least. And me in theory but lol, I have certainly been idling in this game for a bit. I also don't really know why Dunn deserves to be there but I also don't really care about sorting Dunn in principle because of blah blah math blah.

[implosion]

meuh

was my one confident scumread, them flipping town earns a drastic shift

and if im giving

rce

too much credit from the framing, how do you read their rep-in yourself?

Sure. I guess I sort of view reads mostly devoid from each other so one being wrong isn't a reason that all the others are wrong, especially d1, I just separately try to re-evaluate over time.

I'm saying you're giving RCE too much credit because literally the thing you're saying is town about that post isn't something RCE is doing; you said they're town for "viewing their predecessor with curiosity, critical thinking, or understanding" but like, the post in question is them saying

I like this. I’m inclined to trust aristeia’s take.

in response to someone else summarizing Aristeia's take.

Essentially it amounts to RCE saying "yes, i agree" which is not a good reason to townread

I haven't really evaluated any of their posting directly yet in any real way, will do so now, none of it like, pinged me strongly on reading the first time

[implosion]

I’m also in a particularly interesting position knowing my own slots alignment. So on my rep in I read the page or two before, saw meuh was flipped as town. Saw Shirou immediately go, well since RM isn’t playing that’s a good next vote and thought wow that’s a really Wolfy post to make.

Given the context, even without knowing my alignment it’s just not good.

VOTE: Shirou

This is the only post that really sticks out to me, as a pretty 1-dimensional reason to vote, but like, it's not like it's a horrible vote to make as someone who just replaced in. It just feels a bit like, 0-dimensional chess, if that makes sense. Like, I look at this and see meuh was flipped as town, and Shirou immediately goes, well since RN isn't playing that's a good next vote. And yeah, it's a pretty "wolfy" thing to do at a glance, but it's almost like breaking the basic decorum of the game, voting the afk slot immediately after a mislim with absolutely no care. The kind of thing that is "wolfy" and is probably really obviously "wolfy" to scum to the point that I imagine like, if I were scum in that situation I'd never make that vote because why the heck would I put myself out there like that first thing in a new day. But that actually town could reasonably want to do if they already thought the slot was scummy, want to use their vote, etc. So yeah I think this is a bad vote but it's not like, an *abysmally* bad vote

[implosion]

0-dimensional chess is my new term for a post that seems to want to ignore the nuance of WIFOM and call something that "scum would obviously do" scummy, even when it'd definitely be apparent to that person that what they were doing was scummy, so why would they make that post in the first place. Particularly w someone like Shirou with a noted scumgame and lots of experience.

Calling something 0-dimensional chess is not the same thing as making a too scummy to be scum argument, because that phrase is loaded and incorrect sometimes whereas this new one is always accurate

[Taly]

i liked the vote wreyhf4qwgjbhk

[Taly]

i find your takes to be very theoretical

[implosion]

i liked the vote wreyhf4qwgjbhk

that's too bad

[implosion]

I don't really know what to think of you finding my takes "theoretical", everything is theoretical idk anyone's alignment

[Bingle]

I feel really bad about this, but I need to get some deadline stuff done at work.

V/LA for 48 hours.

[Lazy Shirou]

Oh voting the more "inactive" slots is scummy

I forgot what we were supposed to do is eliminate people contributing to the game

my bad

[Alisae]

mimimimimimimimimimi
that's what you sound like shirou god

[Alisae]

you voted meuh literally shut up