Toriel's Patience (end)

[Aristeia]

she's more self conscious as mafia and makes posts that feel like she's thought them through more

[Dunnstral]

Strong town: Brown Eyes, Meuh, Taly, Mandate, Shirou
Soft town: Sakura, Implosion, Keyleth, Merlyn

Remaining players: Beeboy, Alisae, Aristeia, Dannflor

@Aristeia

If you can convince me I am incorrectly reading somebody as town here I will move you up to Soft town.

Open offer throughout this day phase, no rush.

[Taly]

only people i have reservations on in your pool are

meuh/shirou

OK. I've explained my own reasoning and I get that it's not going to be convincing for everybody.

i mainly just mindmelded with

merlyn

on their take on

shirou's

tone and havent had a lot of real-time interaction with

meuh

to assess the nature of their confidence.

its not a big

"you're misled

dunn

"

if that eases you

[Aristeia]

Oh I didn't remember that, sorry

I also didn't remember that because I didn't find it convincing

ok

[Aristeia]

Strong town: Brown Eyes, Meuh, Taly, Mandate, Shirou
Soft town: Sakura, Implosion, Keyleth, Merlyn

Remaining players: Beeboy, Alisae, Aristeia, Dannflor

@Aristeia

If you can convince me I am incorrectly reading somebody as town here I will move you up to Soft town.

Open offer throughout this day phase, no rush.

I think because of your unique position in the game you should take more agency for your own reads/pushes instead of letting others dictate how you go about the game.

you will be judged and I'd rather the judgement be on your reads than what other people made you think.

if you're mafia, I don't particularly want to give you an excuse and if you're town I have no confidence that I would have superior reads to you at this point in time.

gth I think Taly is mafia, I know I can very easily be wrong on this read.

[Aristeia]

I guess I don't really want to explain why I'm scumreading Taly atp because explaining the read takes away the room for Taly to improve because she would then understand my thought process about what I expect town!taly to be doing.

It's like less than 2 days into the game so I'm fine letting Taly do Taly things.

[Lazy Shirou]

My feelings towards Ari are similar to Implosion/Mandate's towards me.

I don't feel much towards either direction when I read her posts, most neutral slot ever!

[Taly]

[Sakura Hana]

<snip>
i find it interesting i got a lot of townreads after i left the thread because the consensus was that i was aligned with

Key

before i did

Correct me if im wrong, but wasnt Mandate the only one thinking you and key were aligned.

[Lazy Shirou]

If we're posting our theme songs here goes mine~

[Sakura Hana]

sakura is probably the easiest player in the playerlist to read and she's p townie so far

Am i that easy to read?

I bet Taly would disagree lol

[Taly]

sakura is probably the easiest player in the playerlist to read and she's p townie so far

Am i that easy to read?

I bet Taly would disagree lol

I STILL FEEL LIKE I GOT PUNKED THAT GAME

[Sakura Hana]

she's more self conscious as mafia and makes posts that feel like she's thought them through more

Oh ok i get it now.
Yeah that does sound about right.

[Taly]

I guess I don't really want to explain why I'm scumreading Taly atp because explaining the read takes away the room for Taly to improve because she would then understand my thought process about what I expect town!taly to be doing.

It's like less than 2 days into the game so I'm fine letting Taly do Taly things.

this supposes a level of thought i didnt expect about my slot that i find interesting and am inclined to shelf it.

[Sakura Hana]

I think im fine moving Ari to the townbin for now.

[Aristeia]

sakura is probably the easiest player in the playerlist to read and she's p townie so far

Am i that easy to read?

I bet Taly would disagree lol

I STILL FEEL LIKE I GOT PUNKED THAT GAME

Personally I think it was p obvious she was mafia that game since she was killing mafia left and right but somehow they never shot her but I think its probably easier to point out such things as an observer/in hindsight.

[Lazy Shirou]

This is getting a bit awkward

It's page 26 and I've no idea who may be scum

There's no slot giving me a big flashing "I'm scumposting" sign

[Sakura Hana]

sakura is probably the easiest player in the playerlist to read and she's p townie so far

Am i that easy to read?

I bet Taly would disagree lol

I STILL FEEL LIKE I GOT PUNKED THAT GAME

Personally I think it was p obvious she was mafia that game since she was killing mafia left and right but somehow they never shot her but I think its probably easier to point out such things as an observer/in hindsight.

In hindsight, yes it was a pretty reckless strategy, but it was a strategy i had to take coz my teammates self-imploded that game so I didnt have confidence i could salvage them.
I dunno how i got away with that.

[Taly]

i should start ISOs

[Taly]

to be clear I'm not *really* town leaning Meuh but I guess I got vague town vibes from that post

this strikes me as odd given that in an ISO, all of the posts from both of you until this point had seemed like fluff to me.

[Meuh]

265 is a funny post because yes, those odds are indeed terrible (EV of limming scum today + tomorrow is just above 3%... only ever so slightly lower than the a priori odds of Mandate's teamread being right)

I was interpreting it as being “hitting scum on day 1/2 is very difficult/unlikely”, and not being about hitting scum on BOTH days. Your interpretation seems more sensical when looking back at it. To me, Mandate was saying “our goal for the first 2 days is to hit scum” and Keyleth was replying with “but hitting scum is unlikely, (and therefore it’s not what our priority should be)”, which I took issue with.

[Taly]

meuh

do you actually have reads? i see a lot of explaining on your end that im not getting any defintiive stance from

[Mandate]

I bet if Zihark was in this game instead we'd be getting concrete stances and probably already have a scum Lim by now.

[Meuh]

fair

also heres an indie song ill never get out of my head

Such a good track!!! I love the album

[Taly]

VOTE: Lady Shirou

wagon may be the quickest way to dispel this "everyone is town" gamestate

i agree that

shirou's

posting has an artificial tone to it and i think the eye glazing

implosion

mentioned eludes to a lack of clear stances.

i also have a similar argument toward

meuh