Guns & Roses VI [Game Over]

[Taly]

celeb

if you never thought

enchant/wheme

were town, why did you push

Cakez

with the justification that the people voting those two could be wagon fodder?

I just don't understand why someone would do that on people they don't townread

[Taly]

I'll guess I'll try and explain it again since I clearly haven't made my stance clear. I saw the Wheme, Enchant, and then Alisae gun claims and ultimately didn't care what their alignment was. I have admittedly pointed out that its probably a reckless stance, but I would just rather let them sort each other out on N1 and look at them again on D2 then bother with trying to elim one of them D1. I tried and mildly succeeded at starting a counter wagon on Cakez for behavior that I did find a bit scummy.

I honestly don't know what you mean by my read progression. I never said I thought Enchant or Wheme was town. I don't think it's wild to think Enchant or Wheme may be scum as well as Cakez. I didn't criticize Cakez for joining a wagon on Enchant because I thought Enchant was town. I criticized him for joining an opportunistic wagon, which is something scum can do on a wagon that may also be on scum. Enchant painted a target on his back, Cakez could easily have decided to bus and earn brownie points if Enchant catches a shot N1 and flips red.

I guess you answered here hmmm

[Taly]

I'm bored and don't have anything to do until later today.

[Dunnstral]

I'm not sure why I have been piled onto here.

[Titus]

Can you do a read wall?

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 1.9

Gamma Emerald [1] - Malakittens
Enchant [1] - SirCakez
SirCakez [1] - Enchant
The Bulge [1] - Taly
Aristeia [1] - The Bulge
Dunnstral [5] - pisskop, Titus, Aristeia, Alisae, Gamma Emerald
WhemeStar [1] - Celebloki
Celebloki [1] - WhemeStar

Not Voting [2]

- Theta Alpine, Dunnstral

With 14 alive it takes 8 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2023-10-30 11:00:00)

[Titus]

I have no problem w this wagon but I am worried about no counter.

[SirCakez]

I think Bulges lash out on pg 39 was hella town not sure what that means for Ari's alignment yet

[pisskop]

wheme was the counter

[SirCakez]

why is everyone unvoting and not revoting.

votes are for pressure. they show that special scumone you really care what happens to them

these posts kinda feel scummy. it's like pisskop didn't get the joke and then felt the need to make up a serious explanation for it to cover as scum.

[SirCakez]

my #1 for today is someone in Wheme/enchant bc that mess needs a flip. Would vote either ATP
Below that is people I find kinda scummy who I would vote if it was the way things went. I'd put like Dunn, pisskop and Cele in here.

[SirCakez]

I was going to try and respond in some capacity to Taly's 1027, but he's mixed me in with a wall of stuff that also analyzes Bulge and I don't feel like trying to quote and pull it apart. It's dangerously easy to read someone in ISO with an expected viewpoint in mind and read that viewpoint with the loss of all the context those posts had. Calls all my early posts fluff and mechanic spec, but that's what everyone else was talking about at the time. The whole first several pages were full of that same fluff.

Then funnily enough picks apart the same posts that Bulge misrepresents me on and does the same mis representation.

I also found it funny that Taly read in ISO looks a lot like me, votes on the Cakez wagon that I started, leaves it to vote Wheme with less of a reason that I gave for my vote.

I think this response reads like indignant scum tonally. Like it's trying to diminish the argument by taking this stance that it is such a weak argument by itself, but it doesn't even really refute anything Taly said IMO

[SirCakez]

I'll guess I'll try and explain it again since I clearly haven't made my stance clear. I saw the Wheme, Enchant, and then Alisae gun claims and ultimately didn't care what their alignment was. I have admittedly pointed out that its probably a reckless stance, but I would just rather let them sort each other out on N1 and look at them again on D2 then bother with trying to elim one of them D1. I tried and mildly succeeded at starting a counter wagon on Cakez for behavior that I did find a bit scummy.

I honestly don't know what you mean by my read progression. I never said I thought Enchant or Wheme was town. I don't think it's wild to think Enchant or Wheme may be scum as well as Cakez. I didn't criticize Cakez for joining a wagon on Enchant because I thought Enchant was town. I criticized him for joining an opportunistic wagon, which is something scum can do on a wagon that may also be on scum. Enchant painted a target on his back, Cakez could easily have decided to bus and earn brownie points if Enchant catches a shot N1 and flips red.

And I don't really buy this as a legitimate townie reaction here, it's so overexplained

[SirCakez]

Oof we have less than 24h

[SirCakez]

I'm not sure why I have been piled onto here.

if you're town you need to do something here like pretty soon

[SirCakez]

so ya consider my vote essentially on Dunn but I want to wait a bit here I am a little spooked by lack of counter like Titus said and wagon comp

[pisskop]

weird that cakez is completely disengaged from the whemestar talk and the massclaim talk

[SirCakez]

I just said Wheme or Enchant was my #1 elim choice for today?

[pisskop]

why in chant? It's nice that you said it, but why do you think it

[Taly]

I don't think

pisskop

is scummy snd thought his statements seemed valid for the time

I do agree that

Celeb's

reaction was tonally different from expectation given the scenario. I chalked it up to older joindate but that may be a mistake.

For

Titus

and I, literally every wagon this dayphase was a counter to

Dunn

.

But if I can't expect

Bulge

to contribute in 22 hrs, I'd vote

Celeb

Though if we need an elimination consensus or if people just want to end the day, I'll revote

Dunn

.

[Taly]

Like this might be a hilariously bad solve but I don't think it's impossible

Celeb/Dunn/Bulge

is the team.

[Taly]

I hope

Wheme

isn't misting everyone. They got very active when they had a potential elimination and I can't discern whether they is more town or scum motivated in their case.

[pisskop]

No way a good townie doesnt execute wheme

[Taly]

pisskop

where are you at with

cele/bulge

?

[pisskop]

null and slightly lower than null