2 and a half hours later and here's what we got. All straight from my notes. A little unorganized, please excuse me.
Panamon's vote/reasoning for Zade is okay. Panamon did not break any rules, and I don't even think what he did is "dirty" like Moses keeps saying. However, what was scummy was him (Pan) jumping ship when people said he reason was lame, and throwing his new vote on Mastin who was a popular wagon at the time.
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Moses left the Mastin wagon at just the right time for me, and voted Pan just when I felt like Pan was looking scummy. Therefore I felt like Moses was playing smart and townish. However I noticed now after the spat between him and BM that his reason for the vote is not so logical. I also don't understand why he's so avidly defending Zade(me), although maybe this is unintentional and a byproduct of attacking BM(Pan).
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WC looks scummish to me. Mostly short posts. Nothing to controversial. Usually a passing comment about an ongoing spat or his interpretation of another player's action. However there's no intensity to any of it. He doesn't seem like he's looking for some unknown villain, he looks like he's biding his time until a good looking wagon comes along. Staying active, but not making waves, and keeping his opinions close to neutral. I'll find quotes to back this up after I decide how much I believe what I'm writing. (At this point I started marking down posts that caught my eye, but never went back to previously read pages. 309, 319, 435 were good examples. I notice other people already picked up on this though.)
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Fixit rubs me all the wrong ways
(dirty, dirty minds)
but I'm waiting right now because I can't tell if he's just more aggressive than I'm used to. Some of the arguments he's made have made me cringe, but that's not saying they were scummy. I wouldn't claim a fixit/SL scum pair right now just based on their interactions. If anything, it looked more to me like fixit buddying up to someone who was helping him lynch his target.
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BM 291, c'mon now. He's leaving the game for poop's sake, you really think he's trying to look townish in the way he replaces out? The more I read of you, the more I get the feeling that you're one of those guys who's an asshole equally to your friends and people you don't like, and you don't mind people knowing it. If this sounds like an insult it's not meant to be, I'm sort of that way IRL. You laughed at Moses's rebound burn on you about the pocket dictionary. Good sport.
Recap, yes Pan was scummy but BM hasn't been really. The one problem I saw with his play was his initial fights with Fixit. I read it something like this:
- BM: Weak case, bus, bus, bus. Nevermind, you're okay.
Fixit: OMGUS, defend, defend, defend. No problem, we're pals now.
After a quick little spat, they're now voting together and seem to be chasing a lot of the same suspects.
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Crysnia hadn't seemed overly scummy to me, and I was curious about those who thought she was, until post 313. A seemingly unprovoked claim. I don't like it, but I'm going to stay on the safe side and pull the newb card.
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Dusky 318 I feel ya bro. No love for the lonely replacement.
417, that's sort of completely wrong.
I find it interesting how BM's case on me solely consists of my wishywashiness. He hasn't noted anything other than that. Have I done anything else that's scummy? If not you can hardly bring a case against me.
Wishywashiness is
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not a word and
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legitimately scummy. It has many names like, riding the fence, bandwagoning, etc. It's valid scum play because it keeps you from having to push a case that may not go through. Now it's not a definite indicator of scum in every case (nothing is) but you need to adapt to the idea that this isn't the best way to play. If it's a personal trait, you need to try and compensate for that. (My opinion.)
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OP: 346, you're right, so FIX THAT PART of your game. It will help you in that you won't have to waste time arguing it down in future games, and it will help the town not mislynch you when you're town.
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519 is good posting. Keep that up.
The vote thing is tough. The people I'm suspicious of are all making this big vote triangle that makes me afraid to side with any of them. I'm going to stick with the only person I have supporting evidence for. WC (in my head I call you Wailing Caverns) seems like a good D1 lynch.
Vote: WeatheredClown
L-1.