Mini 707: Cops and Robbers Mafia (Game Over)

[Empking]

Yes.

[Patrick]

What's he done that's lynchworthy in your opinion?

I've looked over crywolf, who I've been fairly unsure about. I'm inclined to believe that her stand on scum trying to take over the town was not just made up for this game, especially after also looking at the second game she linked too. I could see Ether's suggestion for crywolf's change of heart being correct, but don't see any special reason to favour it over others; I could see it as a switch onto easier targets, and she's been fairly opportunistic with her suspicions and votes, especially with the last one on corporate. What did he do? It seems like he'd said some reasonable stuff there. The other thing to stick out to me is that she's been somewhat lenient on Tisp, who seems to have exhited some of the behaviours she's suspicious of others for (he's certainly been unhelpful, he's certainly been lurking and not contributing much). Based on how her suspicions seem to flow, I wouldn't be surprised if she's scum. There's better suspects out there, but crywolf reads as somewhat scummy to me.

[Empking]

The way he deals with those that disagree with him is more scum-like than town-like.

[Fuzzyman]

[quote]The way he deals with those that disagree with him is more scum-like than town-like.[/quote

Who, crywolf or me?

[mykonian]

sorry people. It takes a bit longer to get in this game then I expected. I don't have a lot time just around this and rereading goes slow. I made it halfway the game.

I have a test today, and after that, there should be a litttle more time to play mafia. Sorry to keep you waiting.

[charter]

Vote Count:

Fuzzyman - 4 (q21, Simpor, corporate, Empking)

Simpor - 4 (Green Crayons, Patrick, Ether, Mizzy)

corporate - 3 (Tisp, crywolf20084, Fuzzyman)

Not Voting: (0)

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch!

[mykonian]

o, btw

unvote

not that it seems like someone is in danger by my vote, but just in case.

[Empking]

The way he deals with those that disagree with him is more scum-like than town-like.[/quote

Who, crywolf or me?

You.

[corporate]

vote deadline

[Simpor]

I agree with the ones that wants a deadline, from my view we are pretty much stuck now.

[q21]

Back, earlier than last week, which is good.

Anyway, I agree with the sentiment that this day has gone on long enough. I state in one of my last posts that I would participate in a Simpor lynch and nothing I have seen in reading up since then has changed that. So with no adu whatsoever:

unvote, Vote Simpor

[Fuzzyman]

I agree with the ones that wants a deadline, from my view we are pretty much stuck now.

You only want the deadline because it would be more likely that I get lynched, as opposed to you. I know I'm gonna catch hell for this Day 2, but...

hammer: Simpor

[charter]

[02] Bold your vote if you want it counted

Vote: charter

. Please

Unvote

before voting again.

Eh screw it, but in the future, unvote.

End of day one votecount!

Vote Count:

Fuzzyman - 3 (Simpor, corporate, Empking)

Simpor - 6 (Green Crayons, Patrick, Ether, Mizzy, q21, Fuzzyman)

corporate - 1 (crywolf20084)

Not Voting: (1)

mykonian

The group of you huddle around Simpor, a malicious glint in your eyes.
"I saw him take my wallet!" one ignorant lady in the bank exclaims.
"Me too!" cries a second person. You all finally realize what the large antique stand is used for. Putting Simpor's head through the noose and dropping the floor. He hangs until dead.

Simpor

Bank Patron

Lynched Day 1!


Night one begins! You have until the 16th to PM me night choices. If they're all in earlier, I'll unlock the thread earlier.

[charter]

More screams and gunfire erupt! Explosives detonate in front of the vault. A thundering explosion echos through the lobby. Everyone drops to the ground trying to avoid bits of wall and flying wads of money. After the smoke clears, you all stand up. Unless your name is Patrick. He was standing too close to the vault when the bomb went off and was pelted with wads of money and precious gems. The irony.

Patrick

Bank Patron

Blown to tiny pieces Night 1!

Beginning of day two votecount.

Vote Count:

Not Voting: (9)

crywolf20084
mykonian
Fuzzyman
Empking
q21
Mizzy
Green Crayons
corporate
Ether

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch!

[mykonian]

I assume we have no vig, or it is corporate, otherwise he should have been dead by now.

I also think ether calls herself too often town. In this game, you play town, we decide you are town. Calling yourself town, surves no need, only your need to show you are town. Town wants to scumhunt, not to look town. Scum wants to look town, so calling yourself town is a scumtell.

vote fuzzyman

a) rather weak third vote on mizzy in post 104 (not very bad)
b) bandwagon third vote on corporate in post 164 (just follows GC)
c) opens the possibility to vote simpor (fifth) in post 327
d) post 379: votes simpor (L-1) after patrick unvoted, mentions later that patricks unvote was town in his eyes (was to afraid to hammer, but is on the bandwagon, for little to no reason)
e) after some people go of simpor, he votes corporate again post 398. No reasons. And don't say you don't need reasons to vote corporate, because you need to ask yourself the question, is corporate scum, or annoying town?
f) after 406 crywolf votes corporate too, and gets attacked for it! Could you please take a look at fuzzy too?
g) in 421 fuzzy contradicts himself: patrick is cool for unvoting, yet fuzzy votes right after that. If you see that, why don't you vote fuzzy?
h) 424: fuzzy admits to have lied, but the defence in where he lied still keeps of the attack. I learned in my first game to lynch all liars, and in that game town was badly hurt by not doing it. Now you are letting him get away. O yeah, votes simpor again (fourth vote on simpor). No reason, just a common "he is scummy" statement. attack crywolf for the vote on corporate (pot and kettle?)
i) 458: wants to lynch everybody that is currently in the spotlights
j) post 361: and votes corporate again: nothing more.
k) 484: states he also wants to lynch simpor (do you really think we don't know that you don't care who is the lynch, as long it is not you?)
l) 561: and guess who votes simpor again...

Fuzzy hops a lot between bandwagon, with little to no reasons behind his vote. He is lurking/active lurking. He can be away for some time, or he can post a few one liners short after each other, but he isn't helping. No cases, no reasons, and always on the bandwagon.

I also see him buddying up to GC (do I have to give examples, or do you believe me?)

I don't blame anyone for lynching simpor, as his play wasn't that great. And it is a shame we don't have a vig.

[Empking]

I'm torn between Fuzzyman or Green Crayons. Green Crayons go to great lengths to protect Ether but I don't think Ether is scum. Fuzzyman goes to great length to protect GC and I do think he's scum. (Those were along with everything else scummy they've done.)

Vote: Fuzzyman

[Ether]

I assume we have no vig, or it is corporate, otherwise he should have been dead by now.

Why?

Calling yourself town, surves no need, only your need to show you are town.

I disagree. It serves a very clear need of rubbing it in Crywolf's face.

And it is a shame we don't have a vig.

Light fishing. Stop it.

Dislike Mykonian, and Canary's Simpvote still kinda rubs me the wrong way. Not really averse to the Fuzzwagon, either, though; I'm not sure where I stand on much right now. Meh.

[mykonian]

because corporate is acting very, very antitown, is not helping, and is not worth a lynch. Therefore he is the obvious vig-target. The fact that he is not killed shows we don't have a vig. No fishing, just a conclusion based on the information we got from the night, and just my view on the horrible play of corporate and expressing that corporate is not quite worth a lynch.

And ether, you can prove yourself to be town by hunting scum. If you do that, there is no way the crywolf can get you lynched.

If I would say here: "I am soooo town", what purpose would it have? Would it get scum lynched? The only purpose would be to make you not lynch me. Yet this is not a priority of town. The priority of town is to lynch scum.

[mykonian]

may I ask, empking, what you think so scummy about GC? I think he does a good job being town, opposed to you now. Look at your post, what does it actually say? "lets lynch fuzzy, he defends GC". Empking, would you please point out where, and why it is so scummy? Right now, with corporate and fuzzy still in the game, we got enough bandwagoneager people that don't want to give proper reasons for there votes, so please explain your vote.

[Empking]

GC dealt with this in 350. You should read it.

Defending GC. You really need an explanation for why to the two scummiest people defending each other is scummy?

[Ether]

And ether, you can prove yourself to be town by hunting scum. If you do that, there is no way the crywolf can get you lynched.

vote: mykonian

Done.

(But what I said about being kinda wishy washy right now stands.)

[mykonian]

Of course not. I just want to know where you get your statements on other players from, so I can check them. If I said that Empking is the scummiest player on earth because he never gives reasons, I should at least give examples for it, before I could be believed. Then you can look if those examples "prove" the statement, and that way we avoid that scum with empty statement lynch a town. Simple, isn't it?

[mykonian]

Ether, what was the problem with that quote? I'd like to know why you vote me. That at least gives me the chance to defend my self.

[Empking]

Of course not. I just want to know where you get your statements on other players from, so I can check them. If I said that Empking is the scummiest player on earth because he never gives reasons, I should at least give examples for it, before I could be believed. Then you can look if those examples "prove" the statement, and that way we avoid that scum with empty statement lynch a town. Simple, isn't it?

Was that directed at me?

[mykonian]

Yes, I hadn't seen ethers post when typing this. This was a reaction to your post above.