Micro 1090: Fruit Mafia - Game Over!

[skitter30]

Any and all reads that u currently have
Also why you think ari is scum

[Datisi]

it's ok you weren't actually making me cry i was just being silly and goofy and hyperbolic

but like still it's quite disheartening to get that question!!

[skitter30]

as an aside does anyone other than marci have a read on ari?

[Datisi]

i remember reading some of her posts and think that they're the type of solving that comes from town-her but i'm not 100%

[marcistar]

eh i think i might get hated on if i say why i read ari the way i do

[Aristeia]

you're kind of getting hated on for not playing the game queen so you might as well just say it

[skitter30]

Why be dead >.>

[SirCakez]

@Mod - is it possible to request a deadline extension? Because I would really like to have one

There will not be a deadline extension unless there is an external event that warrants one.

[SirCakez]

Votecount 2.4

atsi (2) - DragonEater70, Ausuka
marcistar (2) - skitter30, atsi
skitter30 (1) - Datisi

Not voting (2) - Marcistar, Aristeia

(expired on 2023-09-01 14:22:00) remain until day end

Skitter30 is V/LA on Fridays and Saturdays.

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 to reach a majority.

[skitter30]

Ok we have <3 days what are we doing

[Aristeia]

we might finally get the marci read tonight

[skitter30]

so exciting

[Datisi]

hype

[marcistar]

Ari - Honestly it was mainly what someone else said that has convinced me that shes scum.
Like, among all the things temporallich has said

and now Aristeia's playing the "RVS vote outside of RVS" gambit and that gambit seems to have worked as it involved DE70...

DOES THAT NOT CAUSE YALL TO GO THINKY THINK? Like obviously that alone isn't enough but it interested me so much last phase that I isoed ari and convinced myself!! LIKE I SEE IT

MAYBE IM BEING DELULU BUT BEING DELULU IS THE SELULU

i'm not sure if i can explain things better than temporallich could ever. but i believe in this motion!!
i actually dont believe her "scumhunting" is actually scumhunting, i think shes just making comments along to things a majority of the time.

these are like, setting up for if it backfires and shiiii:

I'd be willing to vote skitter but I'm kind of terrified that if she flips town it's going to be awful and I'd really just like to get it right today

I don't have a very good track record of reading people who don't actually play tbh

Without reading context at all, this and a few other things in her iso reads as just shutting down convo:

I don't really get the impression that Datisi is leaving himself open to pushing dragons? he's like been accusing ausuka of trying to trick him into voting dragons ?

i dont like how she treated temporallich last phase.

but all over all im not interested in continuing to try to find reasons for something thats just sheeping a dead player OWO

[Aristeia]

MAYBE IM BEING DELULU BUT BEING DELULU IS THE SELULU

this was really funny you're the best marci

[Aristeia]

see that wasn't so bad

[Datisi]

marci's post made me go reread what TL has said and i have zero (0) fucking clue what "rvs out of rvs gambit" is, and i am skeptical that marci knows either

god with like any other person in the slot and any other gamestate i would've been voting marci for that, maybe i'd be voting her like 3 years ago as well

but uhhhhhhh one of my 3 braincells is still screaming at me that this is a bad idea

[Ausuka]

ok hewwo it is time for me to DO THINGS like a MAFIA PLAYER.

[Ausuka]

Ari - Honestly it was mainly what someone else said that has convinced me that shes scum.
Like, among all the things temporallich has said

and now Aristeia's playing the "RVS vote outside of RVS" gambit and that gambit seems to have worked as it involved DE70...

DOES THAT NOT CAUSE YALL TO GO THINKY THINK? Like obviously that alone isn't enough but it interested me so much last phase that I isoed ari and convinced myself!! LIKE I SEE IT

MAYBE IM BEING DELULU BUT BEING DELULU IS THE SELULU

i'm not sure if i can explain things better than temporallich could ever. but i believe in this motion!!
i actually dont believe her "scumhunting" is actually scumhunting, i think shes just making comments along to things a majority of the time.

these are like, setting up for if it backfires and shiiii:

I'd be willing to vote skitter but I'm kind of terrified that if she flips town it's going to be awful and I'd really just like to get it right today

I don't have a very good track record of reading people who don't actually play tbh

Without reading context at all, this and a few other things in her iso reads as just shutting down convo:

I don't really get the impression that Datisi is leaving himself open to pushing dragons? he's like been accusing ausuka of trying to trick him into voting dragons ?

i dont like how she treated temporallich last phase.

but all over all im not interested in continuing to try to find reasons for something thats just sheeping a dead player OWO

(as a forewarning pls don't take this as me hating on you, i'm glad you gave the read i just want to like discuss it i guess)

personally i wasn't massively impressed by temporallich's posting when he was here either and i'm not sure what was wrong with the way ari treated him personally?


i also think like posts like 722 make sense and i'm not sure why ari shouldn't be disagreeing there? unless you think she's scum with datisi which is... interesting? although i think maybe they would be having more fun with it if that happened lole

Also i don't really see the gambit in ari voting dragon eater? Like it's not really towny but I just don't see what she gets out of it personally?

[Ausuka]

So re: what are we doing? This is a very good question.

Right now I don't want to eliminate marci. I don't particularly think she is scum here and I haven't seen a convincing reason why she would be other than behaviours I have seen town marci do many times over. I think ari and dragon are more likely to be town.

I described my ari read in 653 and I don't think it's really changed tbh. I guess I liked her defending me, which potentially makes me pocketed but she felt like a heroine of justice saving the poor damsel in distress from evil datisi. I thought the elements/dragon slot could be scum for a long time, and that's like still possible? The turning point for me was when he like went in circles on the skitter read for a bit around 734; it feels very earnest and unplanned and stuff. Like just chaotic energy. I think 781 feels kind of good like he's with datisi on the detective team or something. I like his marci read also. I guess i am curious as to why he thinks my push on atsi is genuine? also i don't think i'm performative

Rn i do think it's in {atsi, skitter, datisi} as the most likely scenario. Could skitter and datisi be partners? I mean, maybe - it's not like impossible they would go to these lengths to distance. I think datisi knows skitter can take it and skitter knows datisi can take it. Datisi tying me to skitter felt weird and that would make sense if they were both scum. I think the main thing that makes me hesitate about this scenario is the way that, reading Datisi's ISO, I feel like with the gamestate the way it is he could just like... Go after other people in a way he's not been doing? Idk maybe I should be more hesitant to project the way I play scum onto other people, but I think most of the time scum datisi in this situation benefits from playing this more offensively, going after marci and me more aggressively etc. It creates more opportunities for him and most people instinctively townread more aggressive plays.

Datisi/atsi makes sense because the 'if we eliminate atsi today we are doomed and the world will end' is so ??? that i could see it as an attempt to like... make something so blatantly partnery that no one would ever think datisi would post it as a partner, which seems like a scumtisi thing to do. There isn't a lot here honestly because atsi hasn't had a massive presence in the game. I found it curious that datisi is saying he doesn't think skitter and atsi are partners, I guess, particularly as early as he did. I think skitter/atsi is like. Possible? I mean idk there's just not really a lot there.

Atsi could like maybe be town? I just don't get the sense there's much going on behind the scenes with atsi. I don't like how long he holds onto the miller thing as a substitute for a read on me, and a lot of his reads just feel... surface level I guess? Like he's doing the bare minimum. The push on marci can come from town, sure, but 845 kind of feels like he knows marci is limbait and is trying to push her for being ScummyTM rather than scum if that makes sense? So yeah idk i think atsi is probably the best shot at hitting scum today; at least trying to read skitter and datisi feels much more labyrinthine to me whereas trying to read atsi feels relatively straightforward lmao.

[Ausuka]

I'm around btw so feel free to talk to me if anyone like wants to do that

We probably want to be moving forward a bit. I'm not super invested either but I mean I tried. I think atsi is viable today and I'm on that. I think ideally everyone should be voting at this point?

[Aristeia]

VOTE: atsi

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[Aristeia]

I think if Skitter/Datisi were mafia together it would be really funny to watch their theatre at f5

[Aristeia]

my page five guess for the scum team is skitter + dats

it kind of feels like their early interaction in pictures where they're kind of just fighting about something that's nonsensical and neither is really sorting the other.

I will claim this is definitely something I knew right away but then never pursued because I have a weak spot for Datisi in my heart

[Ausuka]

I think if Skitter/Datisi were mafia together it would be really funny to watch their theatre at f5

this is so true actually...