Crackers! Mafia -- Game Over. See page 50

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I'm very disappointed with CKD for not having moved his vote to Korts.

I agree with RR, we'll have to utility lynch SensFan at some point. That coward didn't even vote in a hotly contested race. Maybe he should be replaced at this point.

not a utility lynch, sens is obvscum. having him replaced would be cruel to the replacement.

Then he should be modkilled outright. He is modding a game, isn't he?

at least two that i'm in

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i'm interested in how likely people think it is that there is at least one of [compulsive vig, serial killer] in the setup.

personally i can't imagine there isn't, which means we have a missing kill somewhere yesterday.

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also if you truly think sens is just a utility lynch, it should be done today because utility lynches becomes exponentially more damaging for town the later in the game they must be performed.

[DrippingGoofball]

Yep. I just looked up SensFan's 'contribution' and must agree. Eleven posts, most recently Nov 27.

We should get 2 to 3 daykills per day. One from the compulsive vig, and another from the mafia - and perhaps one from the SK, should there be one.

We only got one.

So whoever is the doctor, protected correctly. If I were the doctor I would conclude that whoever I protected was a threat to the anti-town faction(s). Thus we have one player that knows more than the rest of us, but of course, ought not to come forward. I'm just hoping he puts two and two together.

[DrippingGoofball]

also if you truly think sens is just a utility lynch, it should be done today because utility lynches becomes exponentially more damaging for town the later in the game they must be performed.

I'd hate to leave Korts and vollkan alive while we do this, though.

[DrippingGoofball]

Actually... Guardian was most likely a scum kill. So that the vig kill was foiled. Ah well. Forget what I said about the doctor. The dummy probably protected a scumbag.

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i still think there's a good chance that guardian was a vig kill

[DrippingGoofball]

i still think there's a good chance that guardian was a vig kill

After all those hints that he had a power role? A vig kill seems unlikely. Also, the kill was pretty early in the day. A vig might have wanted to wait close to the lynch. A vig could have killed a scummy player, and, depending on who the scummy player was voting for, even radically influence the outcome of the lynch.

But Guardian was shot down very quickly after it became apparent that he had a power role of some kind, owing to the type of question he was asking the mod.

[Raging Rabbit]

You shouldn't auto assume there's a vig, Adel is perfectly capable of not doing the obvious. Also there could easily be one who chose not to kill for some reason. Or just an SK whose kill got blocked by a doctor/RB, I think it's unlikely we have both a vig and an SK owing to yesterday's single kill.

Sens should be utility lynched. He should either start posting or be replaced. His activity in the other game rofl linked to is certainly cause for suspicion, though.

[Raging Rabbit]

And QFT on DGB's last post, Guardian was totally a scumkill as I already said.

[DrippingGoofball]

Those are good points, RR. But SF still a better vig target than lynch candidate. I suggest that we spend the day trying to lynch someone actively scummy, like Korts or vollkan. If it turns out we don't have a vig, then tomorrow we should utility lynch SF pronto.

[Kison]

DrippingGoofball is making sense. Does that mean I've lost my sanity? Only time will tell.

[Raging Rabbit]

Sens should be utility lynched. He should either start posting or be replaced.

I meant should

n't

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compulsive vig is compulsive

not lynching sensfan today would be a mistake

[Raging Rabbit]

True, non-compulsive wasn't in the possible roles list. Missed that, I guess it makes it more likely for a second blocked kill to come from an SK - since he's likelier to target someone pro town looking who'd get protected by a doc - though that's not to say it couldn't have been a vig or that there necassarily even was a second kill.

It would be a mistake to lynch someone who provided very little input and could easily be replaced.

[Kison]

Lynching SensFan today for lurking alone would be a mistake. Replace him or make him talk. Otherwise we might as well apply the same protocol to Battle Mage, who I've already used as an example of someone lurking a game as town while staying active in others. I don't view lurking the hell out of a game to be a flawless scum tell. I have lurked the hell out of equal number of games as town in the past as I have games as scum, and rarely, if ever, has it been strategic when done this excessively.

So if the objective of the lynch is just to get rid of someone we can't read, the same would be achieved with a replacement.

Also, I'm mildly interested to see if people think that Elmo's idea for why Guardian was killed is legitimate.

[Raging Rabbit]

Also, I'm mildly interested to see if people think that Elmo's idea for why Guardian was killed is legitimate.

Totally legit, I think this is very probably what happened.

[Battle Mage]

Today we must lynch 1 of the following:

DGB
Roflcopter
Korts

I'm fairly sure that 1 of the first 2 is the culprit of the Guardian-kill. Korts should also be killed for vague scumminess.

BM

[Korts]

I have this vague feeling Kison is scum. I dunno why, but I'll definitely look into this gut read properly when I have normal access (I'm currently through a proxy site right now, my brother blocked MS and the searchword "proxy" because apparently I'm spending too much time on MS...)

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lurking is only one part of the equation of sens' scumminess

[Yosarian2]

The case I already posted summed up my suspicion to the best of my ability

Could you explain it again, please?

Again, I didn't really see it. When I was asking people to explain the case yesterday, the only person who responded was Des, and by the end of his own case he oddly seemed to think his own case was weak. At least he was willing to explain, though; no one else responded at all.

[Yosarian2]

ANd yeah, Sensfan is lurking.

Vote:Sensfan

Mod:Could you please prod Sensfan?

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yos, do you think sens is scummy for anything aside from lurking?

[DrippingGoofball]

Today we must lynch 1 of the following:

DGB
Roflcopter
Korts

I'm fairly sure that 1 of the first 2 is the culprit of the Guardian-kill. Korts should also be killed for vague scumminess.

Thank you for your opinion. It's nice to know what the scum is thinking. Thanks for sharing.

[Battle Mage]

Today we must lynch 1 of the following:

DGB
Roflcopter
Korts

I'm fairly sure that 1 of the first 2 is the culprit of the Guardian-kill. Korts should also be killed for vague scumminess.

Thank you for your opinion. It's nice to know what the scum is thinking. Thanks for sharing.

Maybe i'd be more lenient towards you if you hadn't lied about your whereabouts on the day of Guardian's death.

BM