He has posted. He doesn't have an avatar so it's easier to skip.darkdude wrote:Does that mean he responded to a prod or something?Lionheart has the benefit of the doubt for now.
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the scummiest post I've seen in a long time:
seriously, this is who I am replacing?Brain of Wombat wrote:Awww man, we lost a gun inventer, that sucks. That could have come in useful later.
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so why is your vote on me?tubby216 wrote:yup happy holiday's adel
Also, why are people being allowed to lurk through this game so easily?
while I am rereading, I think it is time to build a pressure wagon:
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because i think the other case goin on darkdude is bs. so rather than simply unvote and leave it outthere floating i decided to leave it on you until i get a good read of you."I swear tubby is scum in every game I've read, even some of the ones he wasn't in. "~Vi
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tubby: do you mind answering some questions about the case against darkdude?
1. What do you think the legitimate reasons (i.e. non-bullshit reasons) to be voting for darkdude are?
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sure no problemAdel wrote:tubby: do you mind answering some questions about the case against darkdude?
i think perhaps the rquest for the finding holder to breadcrum was pretty scummy.Adel wrote:1. What do you think the legitimate reasons (i.e. non-bullshit reasons) to be voting for darkdude are?
no i do not think all of them are scumm i think that its more like one of them is scummy, I believe ecto to be town, normally scum won't take the lead in getting a wagon goin nor will they defend their cases so hard. now wether or not that makes korts or thadmiral scumm i have no idea, i will re-read on that and post more laterAdel wrote:2. Do you think that all three people voting for darkdude are scum?
see aboveAdel wrote:3. If you think at least one of the people voting for darkdude are not scum, why do you think that a townie is voting for darkdude?
now i have some for you,
1)do you believe the case on you/BoW is valid?
2)do you think you should full claim since Bow kinda soft claimed?
3)who do you think is scummiest on your wagon and why?"I swear tubby is scum in every game I've read, even some of the ones he wasn't in. "~Vi
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Gimbo is a player who was banned for ruining multiple games, I think. Claiming scum complete with scumpartner out of frustration, the lot. He was notable for posting every alternate minute, usually partly or fully off-topic. Also had a manic style. And when he was banned, he tried to come back multiple times with several alts. Unfortunately, he had a very recognizable playstyle. You missed out on all this?ThAdmiral wrote:
I don't know who gimbo is...Adel wrote:a quick question: who thought that Puta Puta might be Gimbo before he was lynched?
Can somebody tell me who gimbo is?
Also, I shamefully admit that I didn't even suspect Puta of being Gimbo.
I'll try and summarize the darkdude case sometime tomorrow.scumchat never die-
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I recognize that BOW made posts that contain many tells that can be counted as scummy. I believe that BOW was probably a VI, and those tells from his posts should probably be discarded as not being likely to correlate with alignment.tubby216 wrote: 1)do you believe the case on you/BoW is valid?
I had no idea he softclaimed. I do not think it is a good idea for me to claim at this point. Do you want me to claim?2)do you think you should full claim since Bow kinda soft claimed?
I do not know who the scummiest person is. I haven't read the game deeply yet, and I haven't even started a full analysis of it. It will probably take me until about Thursday of next week to post any conclusions that I can be really confident of.3)who do you think is scummiest on your wagon and why?-
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I just noticed that Ectomancer and IH haven't posted in the last three days.
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nevermind, I forgot aboutAdel wrote:I just noticed that Ectomancer and IH haven't posted in the last three days.
mod:would you please prod Ectomancer and IH?
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Well, I've said my piece on DarkDude. I told Rage what I thought of the case on BoW, who is now you. Im now in my waiting for others to chime in phase.Adel wrote:I just noticed that Ectomancer and IH haven't posted in the last three days.
mod:would you please prod Ectomancer and IH?
On Puta: I also had no knowledge of a Gimbo, much less that Puta might be it.he.she.I have a degree in bullshit. I have patents on entire lines of bullshit. So don't sit here and feed me a line of bullshit and think that I'm not going to recognize it as one.
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ok fair enough. I think you have satisfied my suspicion enough for now. However please note I will be watching your posts closelyAdel wrote:
I recognize that BOW made posts that contain many tells that can be counted as scummy. I believe that BOW was probably a VI, and those tells from his posts should probably be discarded as not being likely to correlate with alignment.tubby216 wrote: 1)do you believe the case on you/BoW is valid?
I had no idea he softclaimed. I do not think it is a good idea for me to claim at this point. Do you want me to claim?2)do you think you should full claim since Bow kinda soft claimed?
I do not know who the scummiest person is. I haven't read the game deeply yet, and I haven't even started a full analysis of it. It will probably take me until about Thursday of next week to post any conclusions that I can be really confident of.3)who do you think is scummiest on your wagon and why?
but i feel ih 's lurking is a bigger problem, so i'll
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vote ih"I swear tubby is scum in every game I've read, even some of the ones he wasn't in. "~Vi
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Good! Since you are watching closely, can you spot any errors in this:tubby216 wrote: However please note I will be watching your posts closely
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4. Family Guy Mafia - FCC gets da boot (Night 1)
5. Mafia 82: International (Day 4, four dead again)
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yes yes i do but i am still here and i am still tryin go me!!!Adel wrote:tubby:
still alive in- 1. Xyl's Relative Chaos - Night 3
2. Mafia 88- Return to New Catania- Day One
3. Newbie 673: (Day 2)
4. Family Guy Mafia - FCC gets da boot (Night 1)
5. Mafia 82: International (Day 4, four dead again)
- 1. Mini 669: Mod Abandoned -- townie?
2. Newbie 644: Kodak City, Muffin District (wrecked) -- scum
3. Newbie 675: Zeroville Heights (Fell Off a Cliff) -- townie
"I swear tubby is scum in every game I've read, even some of the ones he wasn't in. "~Vi
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I don't understand something about day 1: on page 6 we haveKorts in 234 wrote:I need to reread again, from where I left off last time.
Vote: Tarballs,because I remember being suspicious of him.
andPuta Puta in 126 wrote:Tarball did tons of fence-sitting pointing out how he doesn't like this or that but no solid FoS or Vote. gorball does the same thing, criticizing almost everyone and in the end abruptly votes for Rage which makes no sense. Very scummy imo.
andMacavityLock in 138 wrote:As for Tarballs, there is now a pattern of joining big wagons at opportune times. I don't know if that's deliberate, or it just happened that way. He hasn't posted enough for me to make a full judgment. The only time his one big/useful post mentioned Puta was about him being scummy for the "killing a cat" comment, which I took to be at best a joke on Tarballs' part. It feels like EasyWagoning at the moment.
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Defending? It's called educating. You showed a lack of understanding regarding pressure votes being used to change the behavior of a player. Case, point, and example laid out for you right here in this game.MacavityLock wrote:Ecto, I'm not saying everyone on that wagon is suspect. Just a couple people. Given that you're not on any wagon, I'm also wondering why you're defending people without letting them answer on their own.
As for Tarballs, there is now a pattern of joining big wagons at opportune times. I don't know if that's deliberate, or it just happened that way. He hasn't posted enough for me to make a full judgment. The only time his one big/useful post mentioned Puta was about him being scummy for the "killing a cat" comment, which I took to be at best a joke on Tarballs' part. It feels like EasyWagoning at the moment.
In any case, assume you could interpret my post as defending someone, what relevance would my lack of a presence on a wagon have to do with that defense?
Now a couple questions of you. If you are so sold on Tarball, why is your vote still on Rage, who is one of the recipients of Tarball's votes that you are using to make your case? Is that a sloppy bus? If not, isn't your case on Tarball dependent upon Rage being town?
Also of interest...why would you give Puta a clean slate? What comment would have inspired you to make that statement?
Summary: I see you mudslinging with seemingly contradictory premises. Your vote is sticking to Rage while you probe reactions to your statements about 2 other players.
Then, on the flip side, you give a "clean slate" to a player at L-2, whose alignment just might get revealed today.
Isn't that amusing?
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I have no problem with pressure votes. I understand them and don't need someone to explain them to me. I felt that two of the five votes currently on the wagon were made strangely, and I pointed that out. I'm still wondering why you tried to answer the questions I had for those players yourself.Ectomancer wrote: Defending? It's called educating. You showed a lack of understanding regarding pressure votes being used to change the behavior of a player. Case, point, and example laid out for you right here in this game.
In any case, assume you could interpret my post as defending someone, what relevance would my lack of a presence on a wagon have to do with that defense?
I'm... not sold on Tarballs.Ectomancer in 140 wrote:Now a couple questions of you. If you are so sold on Tarball, why is your vote still on Rage, who is one of the recipients of Tarball's votes that you are using to make your case? Is that a sloppy bus? If not, isn't your case on Tarball dependent upon Rage being town?
I do agree that my case on Tarballs probably falls down if Rage isn't town. Aren't I allowed to think that two generally opposing players are scummy in their own way?MacavityLock wrote:He hasn't posted enough for me to make a full judgment.
all of these were posted within 8 hours. Tarballs is mentioned far more times on page 6 than on any other page. He picks up one vote, and then people stop talking about him. Why is that?Rage in 141 wrote:In my opinion, I'd prefer Tarball's lynch than Puta Puta's. It doesn't make any sense to me why anyone would want to breadcrumb as a killer if they were scum, quite the opposite I'd think, and Puta Puta is likely to get targeted during the night anyways if he lives today. I mean, that's just WIFOM at this point, but if Town thinks he's scummy, either way (pro or anti-town) he's not much of a threat today. It also gives any potential investigators purpose during the night, but let's not talk too much about that touchy subject, eh?
Now, I'm not saying I believe the "oh, that? That was meant for another game!" excuse he's got going on right now, but I don't think there's enough evidence for me to believe he's scum and I think there's more enough reason to believe Tarballs is instead.
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16 hours later Ecto votes Puta with 147, and ~ 4 hours laterKorts in 155 wrote:Hmm. I'd say Tarballs and Ecto may be scumpartners. Ecto started pushing Puta's wagon not when it was valid, but when more and more people expressed suspicion of Tarballs. Deflecting attention much?
vote: Ectomancer
@ Korts: why did you focus on and vote for Ecto instead of Tarball at this point?
There was more overall suspicion on Tar, and one person (Rage) was actually voting for Tar.
about 2.5 hours after tubby placed Puta Puta at lynch -1 with post 210, Korts made the very next post:
the full post is very long, and Korts doesn't mention Puta even once. Note that Korts vote was actually on Puta Puta at this time.Korts in 211 wrote:
Okay, so you had to bring the "soft claim" up again. Why? What does it prove in terms of scumminess?Tarballs wrote: also don't like the "just an average townie" soft claim by BoW. He's certainly becoming more suspicious, but it's not quite enough for me to change my vote yet.
As of now in the reread, Macavity is leading my scumlist by far, with Tarballs a not-very-close second. I'll continue later, but I have other things to do.
@ Korts: why were you willing to leave Puta Puta at lynch -1 when Macavity was the scummiest on your list, and Tarballs (who actually had a vote on him) was a distant second?
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Which posts show that MacavityLock was under "considerable pressure" during day 1?Korts 237 wrote:To be frank, I can imagine MacavityLock being a vigkill. He was under considerable pressure yesterday, therefore I don't think he fits the profile of a mafia NK.
I still haven't gotten round to a reread, though. Give me 'til weekend.
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I have no idea. I was behind in my reading at that time, so that's a reason for why I didn't continue the Tarballs discussion at that time, I don't know about others.Adel wrote: Tarballs is mentioned far more times on page 6 than on any other page. He picks up one vote, and then people stop talking about him. Why is that?
Because it was Ecto who seemed to be deflecting, and not Tarballs.Adel wrote:Korts: why did you focus on and vote for Ecto instead of Tarball at this point?
You are conveniently ignoring the fact that this big post you speak of was a catching-up post and I adjusted my reads to that. Meanwhile, in the present, Puta was more than worthy of a lynch for his unhelpfulness; I just hadn't gotten to that point in reading up that it should've been worth mentioning.Adel wrote:about 2.5 hours after tubby placed Puta Puta at lynch -1 with post 210, Korts made the very next post:
the full post is very long, and Korts doesn't mention Puta even once. Note that Korts vote was actually on Puta Puta at this time.Korts wrote:
Okay, so you had to bring the "soft claim" up again. Why? What does it prove in terms of scumminess?Tarballs wrote:also don't like the "just an average townie" soft claim by BoW. He's certainly becoming more suspicious, but it's not quite enough for me to change my vote yet.
As of now in the reread, Macavity is leading my scumlist by far, with Tarballs a not-very-close second. I'll continue later, but I have other things to do.
@ Korts: why were you willing to leave Puta Puta at lynch -1 when Macavity was the scummiest on your list, and Tarballs (who actually had a vote on him) was a distant second?
I don't have the time to go back and find the specific posts, but I expressed solid suspicion on Macavity, and I remember Ecto doing so, too. At the time I posted the "considerable pressure" post, I also believed that ThAdmiral had fingered him as a suspect, too (apparently not, though). Three people is considerable pressure, no?Adel wrote:Which posts show that MacavityLock was under "considerable pressure" during day 1?scumchat never die
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