So WERE we recruitable?In post 3795, Korina wrote: Something else I can finally answer:
Why couldn’t I answer if masons could be culted? It opened more opportunities for CCS if I never confirmed it, and meant that I never explicitly had to answer anything about the cult, because with a cult, there are a lot of variations of cult leader I could be running. Also it’s really funny to watch people try to guess what I’d allow with a cult in my game LOL.
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My signature remains apt this game, yay. Even if this time I was town with a vig shot.Alt of Theta Alpine
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Oh also I was SO close to shooting Snivy N1, should have followed that instinct.
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Oh 100%. I’d never start with scum in a masonry, but I’d 100% let a mason get culted, especially since the CL let you retain all your abilities. If it was a normal CL who vanillaizes you, no.In post 3800, Radical Rat wrote:
So WERE we recruitable?In post 3795, Korina wrote: Something else I can finally answer:
Why couldn’t I answer if masons could be culted? It opened more opportunities for CCS if I never confirmed it, and meant that I never explicitly had to answer anything about the cult, because with a cult, there are a lot of variations of cult leader I could be running. Also it’s really funny to watch people try to guess what I’d allow with a cult in my game LOL.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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I think... most of my reads were correct? If sometimes for the wrong reason. Wheme I was wrong on but I did backpedal on that one before the end. Titus I didn't suspect before they died, Kiri I didn't suspect before they got guiltied... Ircher and Snivy I correctly placed as scum, and I did mostly place everyone else as town. I did place dragoneater as town but they were being claimed as mason so I wasn't gonna get that one correct until the end. Where I did say it was between them and Sheep (and me) so.Alt of Theta Alpine
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There is no way that scum would target Dragoneater the absentee for a nightkill, over any of the many other confirmed Town. There was no benefit to it and huge potential risk.In post 3797, Radical Rat wrote: I totally get the frustration, but there was never any game throw potential. If the plan for him to eat the kill happened, the situation would have resolved itself, but even if that didn't happen, I was never going to let the mason claim last in the Nightmare, which I would have insisted I be present for.
I am kinda kicking myself for not catching Abnegation earlier though
Any plan that relies on you being alive later to tell people something you said earlier was false is inherently unreliable, especially in a game like this. What if mafia had the hammerer ability again, or a dayvig? You say someone is your mason partner and soon boom! You're not around anymore to dispute it and DE70 is confTown to endgame. The assumption that masons were immune to cult was just a hope, not anything to count on (and Korina's non-answer on that topic was a hint to not disregard the threat). I was racking my brains for ways he could possibly have convinced you guys he was definitely town and thus made you willing to confirm him like this and couldn't come up with any. If he'd Friendly Neighbored one of you he'd be confirmed town, but only at the moment he sent the action, he could be recruited to cult that very same night since a recruit action would process after the FN. And how the hell would he feel confident enough to just announce he's mason without communication with you? A Neighborize seemed more likely since there seemed to be some sort of line of communication between him and you but that obviously doesn't say anything about his alignment, unless it was like a Loyal Announcing Neighborizer that announced the modifier as well (which is not the normal functionality) and again, still cultable. If he had some invention he could use to confirm himself like being given mason there was no source for it since Flea had claimed targeting others, and even if it somehow came from an unclaimed source there was no reason to lie that he was there all along. I literally felt like I was going crazy, so thoroughly were the things I knew to be false being supported by people who I knewwereon my team."Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
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Spoiler: full list;AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Guilty. :PIn post 3742, Radical Rat wrote:Damn it, you did put Drew in the Nightmare didn't you?
Ever since you made this post,
I had my full plan.In post 680, Radical Rat wrote:if it WAS Town that did it, they'd better have a damn good excuse.
I was going to fakeclaim IC, wait for you specifically to ask me to reveal, use my second shot to forcibly add myself to the nightmare, and then quote 680, answering what my "damn good reason" was.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Why not? Lying's fun.In post 3752, DragonEater70 wrote:Also why did you lie?
As I was going to assure Radical Rat, I had the best reason of all for putting you in then fakeclaiming:In post 3793, Doctor Drew wrote:Ranger, why did you put me in the Nightmare?
It was funny.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Lol, second game in a row you lied as town.....this time worked out a bit better.In post 3811, Ranger wrote:
Why not? Lying's fun.In post 3752, DragonEater70 wrote:Also why did you lie?
As I was going to assure Radical Rat, I had the best reason of all for putting you in then fakeclaiming:In post 3793, Doctor Drew wrote:Ranger, why did you put me in the Nightmare?
It was funny.
Also, I like this trolling Ranger. And I guess you telegraphed everything with the Drew what you want talk.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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Essentially, I figured with the change to the nightmare mechanic this game, my power was useless. Since I figured there was no +town usage of it, I decided to have fun. I breadcrumbed having the role by Doctor Drew puns as it was his role last game.
At the time I used it, the leading proposal was everyone in the nightmare; I figured if everyone was going in, my power wouldn't change anything. By total coincidence, I decided to impulsively use it on Doctor Drew, because he asked for payment and I decided to give it. I figured I could get away with it, by merit of my play revealing my alignment. Confident in my play being +town, I assumed my fakeclaim would be harmless, so I decided to get creative and have fun.
I knew when I revealed I would likely eat a mislim despite my play, yet was willing to pay the price, because the payoff would've been #worth.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Oh, and I will consider all royalties paid for putting me in the Nightmare.
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I lie whenever I feel it's not detrimental and I've the inspiration. (I can only lie if I have an idea of what I want to claim as a lie, I don't always have a muse providing this service.) This is actually my fifth game in a row lying, although one was a fairly tame transparent gambit. I'm actually planning on running a game called "Roles Ranger has fakeclaimed", which would apply artistic liberties to my fakeclaims. Those five games have enough material to fit a mini, because each fakeclaim can be used to create 2-5 different roles.In post 3812, Doctor Drew wrote:Lol, second game in a row you lied as town.....this time worked out a bit better.
Also, I like this trolling Ranger.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Well consider me pre inned for that.In post 3815, Ranger wrote:
I lie whenever I feel it's not detrimental and I've the inspiration. (I can only lie if I have an idea of what I want to claim as a lie, I don't always have a muse providing this service.) This is actually my fifth game in a row lying, although one was a fairly tame transparent gambit. I'm actually planning on running a game called "Roles Ranger has fakeclaimed", which would apply artistic liberties to my fakeclaims. Those five games have enough material to fit a mini, because each fakeclaim can be used to create 2-5 different roles.In post 3812, Doctor Drew wrote:Lol, second game in a row you lied as town.....this time worked out a bit better.
Also, I like this trolling Ranger.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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Were you keeping up with the Mason chat? I was pretty clear that I didn't trust it at all, and had contingencies in place for if Abnegation had been cultedIn post 3808, Aureal wrote:
There is no way that scum would target Dragoneater the absentee for a nightkill, over any of the many other confirmed Town. There was no benefit to it and huge potential risk.In post 3797, Radical Rat wrote: I totally get the frustration, but there was never any game throw potential. If the plan for him to eat the kill happened, the situation would have resolved itself, but even if that didn't happen, I was never going to let the mason claim last in the Nightmare, which I would have insisted I be present for.
I am kinda kicking myself for not catching Abnegation earlier though
Any plan that relies on you being alive later to tell people something you said earlier was false is inherently unreliable, especially in a game like this. What if mafia had the hammerer ability again, or a dayvig? You say someone is your mason partner and soon boom! You're not around anymore to dispute it and DE70 is confTown to endgame. The assumption that masons were immune to cult was just a hope, not anything to count on (and Korina's non-answer on that topic was a hint to not disregard the threat). I was racking my brains for ways he could possibly have convinced you guys he was definitely town and thus made you willing to confirm him like this and couldn't come up with any. If he'd Friendly Neighbored one of you he'd be confirmed town, but only at the moment he sent the action, he could be recruited to cult that very same night since a recruit action would process after the FN. And how the hell would he feel confident enough to just announce he's mason without communication with you? A Neighborize seemed more likely since there seemed to be some sort of line of communication between him and you but that obviously doesn't say anything about his alignment, unless it was like a Loyal Announcing Neighborizer that announced the modifier as well (which is not the normal functionality) and again, still cultable. If he had some invention he could use to confirm himself like being given mason there was no source for it since Flea had claimed targeting others, and even if it somehow came from an unclaimed source there was no reason to lie that he was there all along. I literally felt like I was going crazy, so thoroughly were the things I knew to be false being supported by people who I knewwereon my team.-
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When people died, they lost access to any PTs they had access to, because of MT's role.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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I am releasing the PTs, I'm aware the Mod PT is missing n2/n3 actions, and I'll try to find and edit those in tomorrow. I put them into notepad, and then never copied them over.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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And then I did. :PKorina wrote:Unironically I hope Ranger endgames with her claimAKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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In post 829, Aureal wrote:In post 807, camelCasedSnivy wrote: scum: bianco (or whoever they were being replaced by), aureal, rauth, snivy!!!
Awww, how can you rat us out like this, partner?
You know, this crumb I actually typed out totally unintending for it to be a crumb. I immediately realized what I had done and reworded it, worrying it was too obvious. Then decided it wasn't worth worrying about and was just too perfect and restored it."Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
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I like how I successfully hit scum with my vig and people just got more suspicious of me cause it wasn't the right scum team.Alt of Theta Alpine
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Especially since in retrospect there was no way I was going to be able to place dragoneater correctly at the time, and they were the only other scum alive.Alt of Theta Alpine
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I'm also going to stand by my thought of alarmist being a potential scum role for multiball with a full cult. Since scum have to fight cult as well. (Though I guess they do have a night kill for that as well.)Alt of Theta Alpine
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