Pokemon Battles 2 - Attack on Giratina [GAME OVER]

[Chandra Nalaar]

titus is dead lol

yes that's the point

[Chandra Nalaar]

ah well im not that great at fighting anyway id probably have just killed myself with it

[Yimmy]

ohhh like associatives that makes sense
yeah i don't see the point in not doing that lol. not like anyone else has even validated me

[Yimmy]

You know what.

Shirou had an ability that targets a player and comes across as a different player, and it also suppresses.

They also had an ability that gave them 2 actions the next night.

They probably suppressed Chandra and then it came across as Meuh.

Then Meuh targeted Black, and Black was fainted so they didn’t get poisoned. Or Black’s lying about that part.

oh Flavor Leaf was the one to offer this explanation. more tinfoil bait
sorry im still not normal

[Chandra Nalaar]

i wonder if titus refused to do vca because she thought it outed her team

[Meuh]

The wild becomes godlike! It is now Night 7! It will last (expired on 2023-07-29 07:53:34) and actions will not be accepted an hour before the deadline. The first part of the night phase will begin and will be forcefully resolved after (expired on 2023-07-28 07:53:34).

Giratina attacks Chandra Nalaar and sends her to the distortion realm! They lose -3 DEF for this battle and during the night, they cannot act or be targeted by actions.
Here are the players that will be fighting Giratina: Not_Mafia, Meuh, Yimmy.

All battles have been concluded. Tina takes 3 damage and has been defeated. Not_Mafia and Chandra fainted to Tina. The day will be starting shortly.

Wait how did Chandra faint to Tina but didn't fight Tina???

@mod is this an error?

[Alisae]

Giratina attacks Chandra Nalaar and sends her to the distortion realm!

[Meuh]

Ohhh gotcha

[Meuh]

did meuh's failure to poison black ever get resolved?

Black was fainted on that night, that's seemingly what prevented it
STD not getting poisoned on N2 never got resolved though I think? I don't think he even acknowledged it

[Meuh]

uhhh meuh why didn't you fight tina last night after i reminded you

I did!

[Meuh]

I have a reason to want NM alive for now so I'd rather not vote there (I don't wanna keep him til ELO, just a bit longer)

[Meuh]

I'm feeling STD's just scum here
I liked his more recent posting (day 6/7 I think 5 too?) but it's like... he had really meh content for most of the game that I felt off about, and his recent stuff feels very... safe and palatable? I'd probably need to give it a second glance but I think that progression's iffy

[Meuh]

I should look at FL's treatment of him actually cause I wasn't scrutinizing FL's play around potential teammates since he was in my blindspot

[Meuh]

I’ve liked Chandra overall after our back and forth day 1, and like I said, I feel they’ve been in a similar spot as me, where they should have more push and pull, but aren’t getting anywhere.

Firebringer’s pushed little to no agenda, and even under the push from Pink Ball, I just kinda liked how they reacted. I liked the e6 once my Chandra scum read went away, and DD flipped town.

Titus could go either way. Their claim on Day 2 came across townie, and it looked like they were getting framed, and I don’t think Titus makes kills like that, but that’s meta. I also don’t feel like she’s made as much pocketing attempts on me if she were scum here.

Whemestar, I had some soul bonding with early, and I’ve liked their claiming of what they’ve been doing, and it makes sense. I’ll go deeper into this in a day phase or so if I’m here.

Cakez hasn’t really done too much, I don’t think, and I remember it being weird I’ve been on top of their reads list all game, but i think that was a choice Cakez made rather than truly having that read. I didn’t think they’d try to pocket me this hard right after I got paranoid of them in our last game together when they were town, but I guess it kind of makes sense. If I went with my VCA pool, they fit that bill.

Definitely don't like the treatment of Wheme here
I kind of think there's scum in Wheme/Chandra

[Meuh]

If we get rid of the loud day presence scum players then maybe whoever makes it to the end can cut through the noise and figure it out

Sorry for the spam btw just lots I'm thinking about rn

Go right on ahead.

FL being a mastermind makes sense.

If FL is scum, then he likely engineered a 1 town 1 scum in Chandra/Wheme.

If he gets a Black elimination, then he closes the gap.
If he gets a Chandra or Wheme town elimination, he can turn to Black while "confirming" the other
If he gets a Chandra/Wheme partner eliminated, he can then channel the other for a misfade and sacrifice himself.

He's ensuring misfades because who wouldn't believe him...

Like flailing at this point

Do we think FL is trying this drama to protect NM? Or just coincidence?

SirCakez, let's suppose FL, NM, one of Chandra/Wheme are scum, who are the last two?

N1) Atk Drew
N2) Knocked out
N3) Heal Cakez
N4) Girtina
N5) Knocked Out
N6) Heal WhemeStar

I think Chandra Wheme Yimmy Meuh is just the town team here.

I'm fine with eliminating anyone else.

I'm trying to figure out what Titus' treatment of Chandra/Wheme implies
I feel like that final town team probably has a singular scum on it and that singular scum is almost certainly in Chandra/Wheme
Which I think also just makes sense with FL's claim
At first I was like "oh but Chandra/Wheme' alignment relative to FL is pure WIFOM" and I do think whether there's 1 or 2 scum in there is probably WIFOM, but I also don't think scum!FL just sacrifices himself purely to get a mislim on Black and then like one on Chandra/Wheme? But I suppose on the flip side, if there's 5 scum then FL just wins the game if that works, and he was high influence enough that he was probably the scum in the best spot to do so. So actually nevermind it's WIFOM
But I do think Titus' treatment of Wheme/Chandra probably implies scum's there? Which I'd lean towards being Wheme, so I wanna check her progression there
I'm not sure if her treatment of NM is made to distance or to actually set him up as a mislim, NM's position in the game kind of means she has to at least cast some doubt so I'm not sure how AI it is

[Meuh]

If we could get some more votes on WhemeStar, that would be great. I would also accept patchwork. Get in on the ground floor of this scum catching opportunity! #girlboss

I don't get why on either of these at this point.

If we could get some more votes on WhemeStar, that would be great. I would also accept patchwork. Get in on the ground floor of this scum catching opportunity! #girlboss

I think it's a fair criticism.
You're coming into the game very hard on a slot that merely posted they don't have time to read the 5 pages. If this is how you typically play regardless of alignment then i won't take too much issue. But still i find it independently to be more likely coming from scum that wants to take a grand standing early but does it by pushing an lurker slot.

I can see this. Neither have anything memorable. Could this be a prefer town but backup scum partner situation?

If Chandra imagined Wheme's inactivity to be scummy, why push it immediately at the start of the game instead of waiting a bit to see if their inactivity is going to be an recurring theme rather than an one-off thing.

Ok, I can do Norway town for now. I'm a little uneasy given I mind melded some with scum in Team mafia. However, it's good for now.

Okay yeah it's just Wheme

[Meuh]

I don’t like Ranger either our reads are so different

you can be my mason buddy

Hmmm

Oh god wtf is this

[Meuh]

@FL define main wagon.

I like WhemeStar pushing here. A less active slot doesn't open on LLD here.

Hmm

[Meuh]

I think this positioning around Wheme looks generally paired? Titus townreads him but it feels... impersonal I guess?
There's the way she kinda called him town but specifically in the context of Chandra's reads but also made an "I don't get the scumread" post, and then the townread on his early day 2 is more of a "town would do what he did in his position" kind of read

[Meuh]

Scum like vote spreading and that’s why save that dragons was voting for me at EoD

Going to generate my own theory EoD. Flagging this as it makes me smile. Barring a guilty, you get a pass today. I am a sucker for VCA.

Is this paired???? I don't know

[Meuh]

There's a lot of posts where TItus interacts or shares thoughts on both FL/Wheme at once and that feels slightly good for Wheme? I think if scum she'd like to package Wheme in with FL because setting up those T/S duos is juicy

[Meuh]

Emphasizing the Wheme/FL thing if both are scum is pretty ???

[Meuh]

2

Firebringer

3

SirCakez

4

Flavor Leaf

6

DrippingGoofball/KittyTacky

7

WhemeStar

8

ItalianoVD/Rathe/Blue.

9

Lazy Shirou/Skygazer

11

Titus

12

Chandra Nalaar

13

MathBlade/Sheepsaysmeep

15

biancospino/Enchant/Invisibility

17

Meuh/Patchwork

18

Black

19

Not_Mafia**

20

SquirtleSquad

21

Malakittens/Metens* (Malakittens + Mewtaph)

22

Yimmy/NorwegianboyEE

Interesting. Can you elaborate more on the DGB, Meuh and Math reads?

This post feels fake but I'm not sure if it's in a "Titus is scum and therefore has no reads" way or in a "awkward interaction with partner" way

[Meuh]

I should definitely reconsider Wheme at this point

Everyone should be.

Hmmm

[Meuh]

Thought about attacking Titus at night but she got send to the shadow realm so I pivoted

Is this paired?