Mini Normal 2303 [Postgame!!!!]

[Invisibility]

retracted it, after you disproved it

again, what else would Italiano do in this situation? Seems kinda obvious that Italiano would retract the claim after it was disproven cuz otherwise he would be megadead. I don't know how it gains towncred other than being the choice that doesn't get him dead immediately and so I don't see why that was even worth mentioning

pedit: yes what Fire said

i'm just bamboozled why you would fakeclaim masons with someone who isn't even your scumpartner unless you're, say

trying to deliberately distance

but i don't think that's what's happening here

that still doesn't answer my question :P

[Cook]

retracted it, after you disproved it

again, what else would Italiano do in this situation? Seems kinda obvious that Italiano would retract the claim after it was disproven cuz otherwise he would be megadead. I don't know how it gains towncred other than being the choice that doesn't get him dead immediately and so I don't see why that was even worth mentioning

pedit: yes what Fire said

i'm just bamboozled why you would fakeclaim masons with someone who isn't even your scumpartner unless you're, say

trying to deliberately distance

but i don't think that's what's happening here

that still doesn't answer my question

i don't know, get hammered and flip red?

[Cook]

i'm not italiano, i didn't claim mason and get shut down

[Invisibility]

I'm not asking for Italiano's thought process. I'm wondering why you brought it up the towncred thing in the first place

[Ausuka]

I'm trying to ask about your read on Italiano

Like, do you think he expects invisibility to claim masons with him? After invisibility calls him scum so strongly

Is there more to the mason claim being scummy?

[Cook]

I'm trying to ask about your read on Italiano

Like, do you think he expects invisibility to claim masons with him? After invisibility calls him scum so strongly

Is there more to the mason claim being scummy?

respectively:
- ask about it then, or point to a place when you asked about it please
- no, no i don't
-

why in the goddamn would town fakeclaim.

if there is no logical reason for it, then there you go. that's why i scumread italiano

[Cook]

happy birthday ausuka

[Ausuka]

retracted it, after you disproved it

again, what else would Italiano do in this situation? Seems kinda obvious that Italiano would retract the claim after it was disproven cuz otherwise he would be megadead. I don't know how it gains towncred other than being the choice that doesn't get him dead immediately and so I don't see why that was even worth mentioning

pedit: yes what Fire said

i'm just bamboozled why you would fakeclaim masons with someone who isn't even your scumpartner unless you're, say

trying to deliberately distance

but i don't think that's what's happening here

I mean, I am too, but

why is your conclusion from it that it's scummy for italiano

[Ausuka]

I think most players would interpret it as a joke because no shit they are not masons

I am trying to understand why you are approaching this from the angle it was intended to be taken seriously.

[Ausuka]

Like if it makes no sense for town to do and it makes no sense for scum to do according to you how is that not NAI

[Ausuka]

happy birthday ausuka

And thanks

[Cook]

retracted it, after you disproved it

again, what else would Italiano do in this situation? Seems kinda obvious that Italiano would retract the claim after it was disproven cuz otherwise he would be megadead. I don't know how it gains towncred other than being the choice that doesn't get him dead immediately and so I don't see why that was even worth mentioning

pedit: yes what Fire said

i'm just bamboozled why you would fakeclaim masons with someone who isn't even your scumpartner unless you're, say

trying to deliberately distance

but i don't think that's what's happening here

I mean, I am too, but

why is your conclusion from it that it's scummy for italiano

thank you!!

I think most players would interpret it as a joke because no shit they are not masons

I am trying to understand why you are approaching this from the angle it was intended to be taken seriously.

perhaps i am bad at reading that kind of thing and it doesn't go well in terms of playing mafia

[Cook]

Like if it makes no sense for town to do and it makes no sense for scum to do according to you how is that not NAI

general feel on italiano??

i don't know. i should be thinking it's nai.

[HighPrincessErinys]

forgot about the game and was doing shit all day
uh

[HighPrincessErinys]

this one thinks it'd be willing to ball on italiano??

[Invisibility]

hi Erinys

[Cook]

this one thinks it'd be willing to ball on italiano??

to ball?

[T3]

I

I don't think IVD's strong townread of Invisibility makes a lot of sense tbh. I'm more inclined to believe this is an informed read rather than one developed naturally. And the mason thing just feels like a buddying attempt when I look through the lens of scum!IVD

Still planning on iso'ing this today to get a better idea of where I stand

I get that it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense but Italiano has stated that he reads off tone. I guess to me it seems like Italiano has a strong gut read that he can’t fully explain and I understand that. To me, his explanation when questioned about his townread was

weird

but not scummy.

[T3]

Early on when everyone was fluffposting Invis interacted with me in a way that I thought was loose and fun which I don’t think scum would/could be able to maintain.

have I maintained this

I also really like this post, I don’t think that scum would think to ask this question.

[T3]

VOTE: Black

[Cook]

VOTE: Black

that's an unusual vote! mind explaining it?

[HighPrincessErinys]

this one thinks it'd be willing to ball on italiano??

to ball?

vote kill destroy

[Black]

VOTE: Black

Go on

[ItalianoVD]

I still don't like this defense
Parked for now.
I'm forced to be happy, as I told you in our first interaction
help me

So you were you serious or are you still playing? Like I can't tell if you are playing a character here or you for real.

I don't think IVD's strong townread of Invisibility makes a lot of sense tbh. I'm more inclined to believe this is an informed read rather than one developed naturally. And the mason thing just feels like a buddying attempt when I look through the lens of scum!IVD

Still planning on iso'ing this today to get a better idea of where I stand

Well I'm pretty good at townreading players and I trust in it a heck of a lot more than my scumreading ability. It helps me solve games more than scumreading people ever could. I actually get asked in every game I play why I so easily townread slots. Experience will do that, what else can I say?

Early on when everyone was fluffposting Invis interacted with me in a way that I thought was loose and fun which I don’t think scum would/could be able to maintain.

have I maintained this

If you're asking if you've continued to feel towny then yes, you have.

I could also vote for iamveryhappy and probably Princess, but I just don’t think scum would be that clumsy around a wagon the way Princess was. I could be wrong about that though.

can you elaborate on this

I think they could be partners based off of 419 and 420. It's a weird interaction for me and I'm wondering why Cook would say it the way she did. "Scum or Town Pr?" It's kinda specifically suspicous. Then happy's response just seems disjointed. I read it multiple times and sounds like what should be in a scum PT.

gonna be honest i'm liking iamveryhappy less and less as the day goes on

Oh lol. This is interesting.

420 makes me think happy and Cook could be partners or happy is town

I think for now I’m voting VOTE: Cook.

Can you elaborate on your read on Cook? I could maybe get how that post could make you think cook and happy could be partners, although I'd like elaboration on that too, but how does it make Cook scum independently of happy?

Actually no, not independently. As I told Fire, after reading those two posts again they continue to sound weird. Cook for the early wagon stuff on top of that post.

i'm still not totally convinced on italiano, but the claim walkback is a face-saver in my book

really hate this post
like
the u-turn is really the thing that makes it worse
"I did it to show how much invis is town or smth"
why can't you just do it the normal way and NOT claim mason in the first place

I'm not normal. I'm an unorthodox type of player, but there is always a method to my madness.

[Cook]

I think they could be partners based off of 419 and 420. It's a weird interaction for me and I'm wondering why Cook would say it the way she did. "Scum or Town Pr?" It's kinda specifically suspicous. Then happy's response just seems disjointed. I read it multiple times and sounds like what should be in a scum PT.

"someone who wants to not die"