Mini 707: Cops and Robbers Mafia (Game Over)

[crywolf20084]

the Fourth and Fifth quotes do not have any sort of reconigtion.

[Simpor]

What is there to comment? No one else have picked up Ethers opinion.

And her reasons where:

Not all questions are pro-town. It is not a responsibility as a townie to vocally seek out power roles.

But not asking wolf who started it... that is strange, and such have GC stated:

• While scummish, I don't find it worthy of a vote compared to Mizzy, corp or - if I was to just look at people who were throwing out guesses as to who has power roles - wolf herself.

And I really hate the fear-mongering generalization you put into your defense.

She asked a question in a rude way, I made a rude response. Simple as that.

And pretty much all Ped's done is agree with me, and I'm tied for highest on your list. So yeah.

Ok, I have you high up on my scum list, so you are voting for me...

Notice the bold text.. her reasons were...
notice that one quote has GC and tabbed in,
the rest of the quotes is from Ether, since I wrote

reasons

there should be several reasons from Ether not just one.
I have added Ether to the quotes. I found it quite obvious what I meant.

[crywolf20084]

I didn't. Thank you for fixing it.

[Ether]

Crywolf: you have accepted that I am a pro-town towngoer who glows radiantly with towniness and has only the best interests of the town at heart (y/n). We'll go forward from there.

[corporate]

ok, im back from my holiday routine and will be catching up with work then my games and hopefully posting some kind of comment by tomorrow..

[crywolf20084]

Crywolf: you have accepted that I am a pro-town towngoer who glows radiantly with towniness and has only the best interests of the town at heart (y/n). We'll go forward from there.

I chose to ignore this for a reason. Seriously, I don't like when people go spewing "Lookie at meee!! I'm tooooooown!!!!"

[charter]

Nothing's changed vote count.

Vote Count:

Fuzzyman - 2 (Mizzy, q21)
Simpor - 2 (Ether, Patrick)

corporate - 3 (Tisp, Fuzzyman, crywolf20084)

Not Voting: (5)

Mister Lolipedo-kun
Simpor
Green Crayons
corporate

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch!

Mister Lolipedo-kun has asked to be replaced, finding one as soon as my internet decides to work.

[Ether]

In that case, your answer to my question is n (y/n).

[crywolf20084]

Yes my answer is no.

[charter]

Empking replaces Mister Lolipedo-kun.

[Tisp]

Empking, what do you think of Ether's actions?

Who do you think is more scummy, corporate or simpor?

[Ether]

Okay, then.

Please state your opinion of Simpor's ninth post now.

Please cite the games you've played/read that gave you impression that scum are more likely to try to control the town. Do not stall any longer, and kindly explain why you have ignored my and Patrick's questioning this far. Thank you.

I do not like that you are suddenly supposedly listening to me and expressing suspicions of the guy I've been pressuring, and are in fact not mentioning me directly despite my place on his wagon, and have PBP'd him but not me, but are not willing to vote him. This is not a question; you are not expected to respond. But you can if you'd like to.

Tisp, what do you think of Ether's actions? Why are you voting someone you merely view as anti-town, without looking for people you actually find scummy? What is that definition of "lurk" that you do not qualify for? Why do you keep downplaying "far worse?"

Why won't you respond to me? ._.

[crywolf20084]

Okay, then.

Please state your opinion of Simpor's ninth post now.

I don't get it. The only thing I understood out of it was what GC said. And even when Simpor clairfied the quote tags, I am still confused on why he was quoted all of them.

Please cite the games you've played/read that gave you impression that scum are more likely to try to control the town. Do not stall any longer, and kindly explain why you have ignored my and Patrick's questioning this far. Thank you.

I have not ignored Patrick's posts. I have commented to them all, at least i believe so, I have to go back and . You asked the same questions, I just happened to quote Patrick.

I do not like that you are suddenly supposedly listening to me and expressing suspicions of the guy I've been pressuring, and are in fact not mentioning me directly despite my place on his wagon,

and have PBP'd him but not me,

but are not willing to vote him. This is not a question; you are not expected to respond. But you can if you'd like to.

To the bolded: One is coming. But you're a lot harder to do a PBPA on and I'm pretty limited with my acess due to finals for my english over the next week. (thank god.)

[Mizzy]

It really feels to me like there has been a whole lot of attempts at wagons and when one doesn't stick, everyone shuffles off to another.

Simpor has been looking kind of scummy lately because the only thing he's doing of note is defending himself, and not very well in my opinion, either. It would be very easy for him to come off to me as less scummy if he did some real scumhunting.

Fuzzy is still kind of dinging sourly to me at the moment, mostly due to the lurkerish feeling I get from him but that is fairly easy to fix, too.

[Ether]

Mizzy, are you complaining about the derailed Corpwagon? You should come vote Simpor with us.

Crywolf: like I said, I don't get

why

people do PBPs, let alone in the manner you do, but have fun.

Can you link to completed games that made you think scum are more likely to lead the town?

You have

still

not answered this.

i started well? what about all the stuff thats going on up there about you? and you bring me back into this? i think everyone already knows im an ass, captain obvious. what about you?

What is there to comment? No one else have picked up Ethers opinion.

Pointing out something which Corporate should comment on. Perfectly valid. This then degenerates into an utterly moronic tangent against me without a single valid point.

And her reasons where:

Not all questions are pro-town. It is not a responsibility as a townie to vocally seek out power roles.

• But not asking wolf who started it... that is strange, and such have GC stated:
  

  While scummish, I don't find it worthy of a vote compared to Mizzy, corp or - if I was to just look at people who were throwing out guesses as to who has power roles - wolf herself.

  First off, he doesn't actually address his fishing; he just tries to deflect it by asserting that Crywolf had done the same thing. But she

  hadn't;

  she was just trying to maintain some petty moral high ground over me when I was harassing her about her activity. And I

  had

  already covered this in 207.

And I really hate the fear-mongering generalization you put into your defense.

Actually, I don't get why he quoted this, either. He doesn't actually provide a defense against it.

She asked a question in a rude way, I made a rude response. Simple as that.

My question about Ped was perfectly polite. My question about his fishing was ruder, because it's bad play.

And pretty much all Ped's done is agree with me, and I'm tied for highest on your list. So yeah.

Ok, I have you high up on my scum list, so you are voting for me...

This is both an ad hominem and a strawman. He takes the time to highlight that I am aware that he expressed some idiot suspicion of me, and uses this to try and paint my vote as pure OMGUS. He ignores my actual point about the fishiness of his opinion of Ped.

polly want a cracker?

That was a very helpful comment...

Wrapping up this noble effort to improve Corporate's play.

So that should clear things up. ^_^

[crywolf20084]

Can you link to completed games that made you think scum are more likely to lead the town?

You have

still

not answered this.

Here is one, but the one I would love to link another one but it's still on going.

i started well? what about all the stuff thats going on up there about you? and you bring me back into this? i think everyone already knows im an ass, captain obvious. what about you?

What is there to comment? No one else have picked up Ethers opinion.

Pointing out something which Corporate should comment on. Perfectly valid. This then degenerates into an utterly moronic tangent against me without a single valid point.

I agree with you here, that Simpor does go on quotes you without much of a reason...Its kinda like he thinks quoting you would make things all better.

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And her reasons where:

Not all questions are pro-town. It is not a responsibility as a townie to vocally seek out power roles.

• But not asking wolf who started it... that is strange, and such have GC stated:
  

  While scummish, I don't find it worthy of a vote compared to Mizzy, corp or - if I was to just look at people who were throwing out guesses as to who has power roles - wolf herself.

  First off, he doesn't actually address his fishing; he just tries to deflect it by asserting that Crywolf had done the same thing. But she

  hadn't;

  she was just trying to maintain some petty moral high ground over me when I was harassing her about her activity. And I

  had

  already covered this in 207.

And I really hate the fear-mongering generalization you put into your defense.

Actually, I don't get why he quoted this, either. He doesn't actually provide a defense against it.

Ditto.

She asked a question in a rude way, I made a rude response. Simple as that.

My question about Ped was perfectly polite. My question about his fishing was ruder, because it's bad play.

And pretty much all Ped's done is agree with me, and I'm tied for highest on your list. So yeah.

Ok, I have you high up on my scum list, so you are voting for me...

This is both an ad hominem and a strawman. He takes the time to highlight that I am aware that he expressed some idiot suspicion of me, and uses this to try and paint my vote as pure OMGUS. He ignores my actual point about the fishiness of his opinion of Ped.

polly want a cracker?

That was a very helpful comment...

Wrapping up this noble effort to improve Corporate's play.

I really don't understand why coperate even said that, and why it was worth noting.

So that should clear things up. ^_^

[Simpor]

haha ether, so your case against me is so weak that I can't even quote your lame excuses for a vote on me? You had

three

reasons. And you don't want me to comment against two of them...

[Ether]

It is absolutely beyond me why this man is not dead yet.

[Simpor]

Interesting so you are not saying that I'm wrong?

[Ether]

If I had any idea what you just said, it would probably be wrong.

[Ether]

Crywolf: although I didn't read the game you linked to, I did run some calculations on the postcounts. (I can post this in full if you'd like: as a summary, the average postcount of a townie who lived to endgame was 48; the average for a scumbag was 47. You pushed up the scum average by being the highest poster; the other two scum both posted less than average. Nonetheless...I'm surprised.) This is just postcount, and it could misrepresent the amount of scum-leading actually going on, but I feel too lazy to look into that.

Er. That's not how it usually works?

[corporate]

meh. im on board.

vote simpor

[Simpor]

Ok, I will write this one more time since you don't want to answer it.

You stated three reasons for my vote. Three reasons.
I quoted those three reasons.
You now writes in post 314 that 2 of those reasons I shouldn't even make a comment about. That means you don't think that those actually weren't any reasons?

If I'm lynched this day it's going to be really interesting to see what the rest of you in the town will think of Ethers posts, since I will turn up as a townie.

And Ether, about your post 320. You have asked crywolf to post a link several times, when she does it you are too lazy to read it. Why ask for the link?

[crywolf20084]

Crywolf: although I didn't read the game you linked to, I did run some calculations on the postcounts. (I can post this in full if you'd like: as a summary, the average postcount of a townie who lived to endgame was 48; the average for a scumbag was 47. You pushed up the scum average by being the highest poster; the other two scum both posted less than average. Nonetheless...I'm surprised.) This is just postcount, and it could misrepresent the amount of scum-leading actually going on, but I feel too lazy to look into that.

Er. That's not how it usually works?

It's the content in that game. And if Fyxxs hadn't jumped ship, he would've won for most controling scum in that game.

You bring up vaild points, which I agree with, also Simpor last couple posts, He's jumped up above corperate in my book so:

Unvote; Vote: Simpor

@Simpor: I may not like Ether, but those are not reachy reasons. Actually they are very vaild.

@Coperate: I'm not done with you, your posts have gotten

slightly

better yes, but I would love to see exactly why you changed your vote.

[corporate]

@crywolf

you mean were passed the random voting phase? :p