Open 876 - Fire and Ice - Postgame

[Black]

Are you taking issue with us calling it shading at all or that were calling it manipulative shading

I mean if you are referring to the survivalistic post I wasn't shading there. I gave an answer to Drew as to why I think you would compromise

[Black]

i made a couple necessary adjustments to my reading/catchup style this game so i probably wont disappear again but i sure would love to have a flip!

Python wagon is still looking juicy

[Black]

Thank you for waiting until our V/LA started to seriously start campaigning for our wagon, we really appreciate not having the chance to defend ourselves

I'm not bringing up anything new here

And it just so happens that your V/LA starts on a Monday when I'm way more present on this site. I'm sorry

[Black]

That was the best post in the entire game so far

Bulge is locktown

[Black]

You're breakdancing in a Bo Burnham music video

[Black]

Spoiler: this is a fucking masterpiece btw

Repeat Stuff - Bo Burnham

Anyway, I wanna thank you very much once more for coming
This is my favorite thing to do, to perform
Ah, and you coming allows me to do that
And I really, really do appreciate that
Honestly and genuinely
I will now recede back in my stage persona
I just blacked out for ten seconds
Love songs used to be so beautiful, you know?
"Let us go then you and I, when the evening is spread out against the sky"
"Like a patient etherized upon a table"
T.S. Elliot, beautiful
Love songs nowadays just as beautiful, guys, if not more
Justin Bieber, One Direction, Usher, you know them
You know their love songs
Beautiful, complex love songs
But these new artists, the J Biebs, the One D's, the Usher's
They've have done some very strange
To the format, the structure and the purpose of love songs
And I tried to capture how they've changed it with this love song
I hope you enjoy it and most importantly, mark the differences
Jason Derulo
I love your hair, I love your name, I love the way you say it
I love your heart and you're so smart, 'cause you gave away it
I love your sis', I love your dad, I love your mum
But more than all of that I love the fact that you are dumb enough
To not realize everything I've said has been said before
In a thousand ways, in a thousand songs, sung with the same four chords
But you'll still love it, let me finger you, yeah finger you, finger you
Oh girl, I hope you don't think that I'm rude
When I tell you that I love you boo
I also hope that you don't see through
This cleverly constructed ruse
Designed by a marketing team
Cashing in on puberty and low self-esteem
And girls' desperate need to feel loved
America says we love a chorus
But don't get complicated and bore us
Though meaning might be missin'
We need to know the words after just one listen so
I love my baby and you know I couldn't live without her
But now I need to make every girl think this song's about her
Just to make sure that they spread it like the plague
So I describe my dream girl as really really vague, like
"I love your hands 'cause your fingerprints are like no other"
"I love your eyes and their blueish brownish greenish color"
"I love it when you smile, that you smile wide"
"And I love how your torso has an arm on either side"
Now, if you're my agent you might be thinking
"Oh no, sound the alarms"
"You're not appealing to little girls who don't have arms"
But they can't use iTunes
So fuck 'em, who needs 'em
Oh girl, oh hello satan
Satan, you taste so good
C'mon, louder, I can't hear you
(Repeat stuff, repeat stuff, repeat stuff)
Young ones, listen up
I'm in magazines full of model teens, so far above you
So read them and hate yourself, then pay me to tell you I love you
I love you
And your parents will always come along, because their little girl is in love
And how could love be wrong? How could love be wrong? When you
We know it's not right, we know it's not funny
But we'll stop beating this dead horse when it stops spitting out money
But until then, we will repeat stuff

[Black]

That was the best post in the entire game so far

Bulge is locktown

I have literally never seen you play like this

I don't think I've ever played like this

[Black]

I should be allowed to if everyone else is

[Black]

Do you want to engage with me Python or are you going to keep making subtle remarks about my playstyle? How are any of these questions helping you sort my alignment?

[Black]

That was the best post in the entire game so far

Bulge is locktown

I have literally never seen you play like this

I don't think I've ever played like this

I should be allowed to if everyone else is

Black is locktown.

Black is locktown

I was gonna make a joke about you being locktown for locktowning me but in all seriousness I think there's a chance you're scum this game

Before you ask why. It's mostly vibes. And vibes that I can't really put a finger on. I've tried, but I can't figure it out, which is why I haven't mentioned it yet

Where are the usual town vibes I normally get from you?

[Black]

Do you want to engage with me Python or are you going to keep making subtle remarks about my playstyle? How are any of these questions helping you sort my alignment?

I'm pointing out the weird shit cause I can't do my standard casing style from a phone, thought I was pretty clear I think you're scum

Can you outline why? Please don't make me go through your 400 posts

[Black]

Like thats what I've been getting from you for most of this game after I sheeped Kokichi's meta case, I don't think you're sorting us in good faith this game

And you think this is scum motivated why?

[Black]

Are people really being blown away by a readslist with memes?

It's a great post. Don't be jealous you didn't think of it

[Black]

"Shading and general unreasonableness"

Nah, those are terrible reasons to think I'm scum. You're forcing this one

[Black]

And I think the motivation behind you forcing it comes from you postering yourself to hop on any of the leading suspect's wagons. It's not convenient for you to have to sort and solve my slot because you won't find anything substantial, so you will push this weak reasoning just to save yourself

[Black]

"Shading and general unreasonableness"

Nah, those are terrible reasons to think I'm scum. You're forcing this one

Whats the town!Black motivation for those things?

I don't think I've shaded your slot. And the unreasonableness comes from me not vibing with this game. Even if it's a terrible reason, it's the truth

[Black]

Regardless how I feel about this game I'm still trying to solve. I'm just not putting my usual effort in. So yeah I guess it's fine if you scum read that but it's not scum motivated

[Black]

There's a reason I haven't moved off of the Bulge wagon to put you at whatever E- that'd put you

Yeah, and that reason is there's not enough support for my wagon yet. You'll jump over after a few more votes I'm sure of it!

[Black]

We're here to shoot 4 groupscum in a row, you're a bad lim rn cause you're kinda unpaired

I think you can pair me with Aureal or Bulge pretty easily. Have you really not seen any connections between my slot and others?

[Black]

I'm down to lim Black then

VOTE: Black

lmao

[Black]

Yes I totally just told you Aureal was my scumbuddy

[Black]

This isn't normal logical python trying to figure out the best lim today

You are F L A I L I N G

[Black]

And actually I'm more sure about you than ever now, so I'm glad we had this chat

[Black]

Hop on the python wagon everyone

I've played with town!Python twice very recently and this is not a town Python game

Their reads as town somewhat lack conviction but here they have been deadset on this weak Drew/Bulge associative for the entire day. Any attempts to solve outside of this pair have been weak and short-lived and one could argue that the only reason they've even looked outside this pair is to posture themselves on whatever the leading wagon ends up being

This slot flips red here

[Black]

Also, were you two this spammy that game? I don't remember it being like this.

Nope. I was scum that game so I was wound more tightly

[Black]

Also u forgot when nameless solved the entire game d1 we kno what we got

C

Yeah even when Nameless solved D1 he still lacked conviction in the read

Here? Not so much. This isn't town!python at all

[Black]

VOTE: usesPython
This one doesn't necessarily feel GOOD about this vote but it thinks it's townread Python for long enough. Sorry.

This post just feels bad

Your whole ISO feels worse

[Black]

grim: bulge is not flipping today and we will death tunnel anyone who tries

Same

Grim is locktown

[Black]

VOTE: usesPython
This one doesn't necessarily feel GOOD about this vote but it thinks it's townread Python for long enough. Sorry.

This post just feels bad

Your whole ISO feels worse

Askers?

[Black]

Expect a case in 24 hours

-A

We can wait for this before we yeet you. Personally I can't wait to hear what you cook up after I accused you of not thinking about this lim logically

[Black]

I'm totally down for a flash Kokichi wagon

[Black]

we are not a hydra. never call us a hydra again.

(I just want to say OE that I accidentally called you a hydra earlier, because I legit thought that's what it was at a glance. I saw Korina post and then this account so I just assumed. I do apologize for that)

[Black]

grim: i want koichi dead bc i am tilted out of my fucking mind because work, and koichi has openly admitted to anti-town behavior and i want to policy that. idc if koichi claims doctor. its fucking anti-town behavior and i want to policy it.

koichi should die. thats all.

VOTE: Kokichi

[Black]

bianco is scum btw

[Black]

More votes on Kokichi

[Black]

Here a flash wagon, there a flash wagon , everywhere a flash wagon... @_@

I get the visceral need to get rid of Kokichi, more than you know. But same thing with Mala, who's his partner other than Not Black?

Python

[Black]

Don't think about it too hard Aureal. Just jump on

[Black]

Yeah osuka you're seeing it

[Black]

black is no longer comically tilted and is instead townposting

[Black]

is your read ONLY based on meta??

Uhh I'm kinda confused how you are just now realizing this? This is the whole reason I was tilted

[Black]

And I know you know I was tilted because you commented heavily on it

[Black]

Why are you choosing to act shocked over it now when Kokichi screamed for about 40 posts in a row that I was scum based on one meta read that he wouldn't elaborate?

Python jumped on that wagon for the meta thing too

Is this fake outrage?

[Black]

i honestly thought there was more to it. i always knew meta was the foundation of it so to speak, but i didn't realize there was NOTHING else to that push

smh

[Black]

I'm ok with people meta reading me. I'm not really ok with

1) someone I've played with one time using it as the sole reason to want to lim me
2) someone not elaborating on the meta read after several people have asked
3) someone using the read to tunnel me and not look at any other slots in the game
4) someone bringing up that I'm scum in every post they make for the first like 30 pages

[Black]

Also what the fuck is this response if you don't think people should be pushed on meta alone

It doesn't really feel like I've found my footing in this game and I seriously can't believe there's a meta wagon on me rn

Upset on the reasons you are caught, or just upset being caught?

Slightly annoyed because this is the first time I've ever seen someone get pushed on meta alone, and it's me, and I'm town. So yeah that's annoying

meta is a valid reason to be pushed. i've been shitpushed for 20 pages straight with straight lies and angleshooting and i got fairly tilted but i don't think there's anything here that warrants annoyance yet, and that's particularly rich coming from me of all people

[Black]

Yeah context matters, but I just find your position earlier compared to your position now kinda opportunistic

[Black]

Aureal, did you finally roll scum?

[Black]

UNVOTE: Koki

[Black]

Still ok with this lim but I don't really want a hammer tonight

[Black]

Jeebus Christ, is it not safe to vote

anywhere

without the day coming in imminent danger of ending???

I go off to work on my taxes for a few hours and come back to... this. Geez guys, remember there's a doc out there, no sudden hammers please!

I'm going off again for a while so I'm going to just UNVOTE: for now 'cause I can't trust any of you to not be hasty and I don't even know what the vote count is anymore with all that movement.

Here a flash wagon, there a flash wagon , everywhere a flash wagon... @_@

I get the visceral need to get rid of Kokichi, more than you know. But same thing with Mala, who's his partner other than Not Black?

Python

Oh yeah you did suggest that earlier. Hmmm. It's something. Basically all Kokichi talks about is you and that could be intentional scum behavior.

I don't like the manipulative self-voting here either. I guess it's clear he's not the doctor from it though.

E-1

VOTE: Kokichi Oma

Aureal I know you say you're tired but I'm having a really hard time seeing this come from your town game, even on sleep's door. You're so careful. Every vote feels meticulous. I don't think I've ever seen you sheep like this, and I don't think you think Koki is scum here. And the only way the Aureal I know would be ok with yeeting a townie is if she's a wolf

Am I way off here?

[Black]

No, I'm just exhausted.

I also don't really like this response to me asking you if you finally rolled scum. To me this tells me you know something is off. And then throwing the joke out afterwards felt like you were trying to cover up the uncomfortableness of being asked that question

[Black]

I got nervous energy from that

[Black]

Why are you upset that Aureal put them at E-1?

I'm not upset at all. I just got scumread it

[Black]

Did you notice Enchant's post just a little before my vote? I did, and thought it was very interesting. What did you think about it?

Their vote on Not Sure? That was referencing Koki saying scum is "Black and not sure"...what's so interesting about it?

And why are you deflecting? I wanna talk more about you being scum

[Black]

Like in our previous game I pretty much just sheeped Python on day two after they friendly neighbored me

I think it's a little different there no? You knew python was town. You don't know if I'm town

Was your post about me being locktown truthful or in jest?

Do you think Koki is scum? If so then why?

Re: Enchant - I see what you're implying. Enchant not hammering when he could have feels bad. I'm still not sure how I feel about you trying to point me in a different direction though

[Black]

You scum read them right?

You know what's funny? I think I townread them now

[Black]

Drew with the spicy solve... Black/Kokichi

[Black]

Actually I think I misinterpreted you saying I was scared of the Koki hammer, nvm

Anyway, I unvoted Koki because it hit me that this might be Aureal's first scum game in like 10 years. It's pretty much a meta read that I wanted to explore more before someone hammered

You can think it's scummy but it's actually the towniest thing I've done all game

[Black]

You scum read them right?

You know what's funny? I think I townread them now

VOTE: Black

Your recent vote hopping is wild

[Black]

This one doesn't currently have the time to consider that, it's pretty fuckin' late, but rn my tired mind is going "thats an insane turnaround"

Tell me what the scum motivation is behind that turnaround? The only way it makes sense is if Kokichi is my partner

[Black]

UNVOTE: Koki

Still ok with this lim but I don't really want a hammer tonight

Again, no mention of Aureal here.

There were 3 posts in that sequence and you conveniently left out the one about Aureal

I'll ask you the same question as HPE. If Koki isn't my partner, what is the scum motivation behind me doing this?

[Black]

You scum read them right?

You know what's funny? I think I townread them now

VOTE: Black

Your recent vote hopping is wild

Can you REALLY blame me?

Uhhh yeah? You just admitted to voting tired without even thinking about what my turnaround means for my alignment

I can absolutely blame you. You went from me having to force you to vote early game to now just voting on a whim

[Black]

Is it your scum strategy to make vote hoppers look bad?

I don't have to make them, they often times look bad on their own

[Black]

This one doesn't see ANY town or scum motivation, frankly. It's a pretty damn confusing move.

The town motivation is easy to spot. I get an intense meta read on Aureal that I want to engage with her about to see if what I'm feeling is right. Koki is at e-1 and it's likely someone will hammer before I wake up. I unvote so I can talk to Aureal tomorrow

[Black]

This one mostly means the "hmm maybe its townread".

I think Koki could still be scum but the self vote really throws me off, and I don't think he would make sense as an Aureal buddy. I'm not sure here but I'm not as convinced in Koki!scum as I was

[Black]

You unvoted after you saw Aureal vote them.

You didn't mention anything about suddenly townreading them.

You didn't mention anything about aureal's vote.

You did mention that you didn't want a hammer overnight.

You tell me the conclusion.

What are you even getting at here? Like...nice recap of events?

Re: suddenly townreading them - the thought crossed my mind when he voted himself but it wasn't until after I talked with Aureal that I really considered he might be town

Re: mentioning Aureal's vote - not yet I didn't. I wanted to talk to her first. Notice I brought up the vote when we started talking

Re: not wanting to hammer overnight - I just talked about this. I didn't want anyone to hammer so I unvoted. You still can't figure out the scum motivation behind this can you?

Conclusion? I'm town that wanted time to sort Aureal

[Black]

You screamed from the mountain tops about how terrible a read Koki had on you, and even really abused AtE.

So what changed in your read?

Koki having a terrible read on me ultimately isn't alignment indicative. I didn't want to think he was just trolling but it's a real possibility

[Black]

This one mostly means the "hmm maybe its townread".

I think Koki could still be scum but the self vote really throws me off, and I don't think he would make sense as an Aureal buddy. I'm not sure here but I'm not as convinced in Koki!scum as I was

Quoting this for the later case since this is the biggest scumslip this game, not ok with a Kokichi lim btw

-A

This is a performative post. You're doing this for the audience. The "slip" will be there tomorrow, you didn't have to quote this

[Black]

Faster to ISO myself than it is to ISO you, it's essentially just egoing the post

-A

I already know you're going to try to spin it as "Black is only solving for one pair! She's scum!"

Hopefully you have something better than that

[Black]

Your argument falls apart because I still think Koki could be scum. I just don't think he's scum with Aureal.

Pedit: Python/Koki is possible, but you have to realize that including Aureal into my worldview changes things. I still think Bianco and you are scum, and Koki was already getting pushed out by the self vote

[Black]

Sorry Aureal, I actually didn't realize that's what you were getting at with the Enchant thing. I probably should have gone to sleep like an hour ago

I'll respond to the other stuff in the morning ~

[Black]

To repeat myself, whether or on Aureal/Kokichi are groupscum should have no bearing on the tr towards either for town!Black, it's only scum!Black who knows that she's solving for one team instead of two

It's not a slip. I'm still solving for two teams even if I'm not doing it very well

A slip would've been "I don't think Koki is scum because Aureal can't be his partner"

Instead you got "I still think Koki might be scum but I don't think Aureal his partner"

[Black]

Your argument falls apart because I still think Koki could be scum. I just don't think he's scum with Aureal.

Pedit: Python/Koki is possible, but you have to realize that including Aureal into my worldview changes things. I still think Bianco and you are scum, and Koki was already getting pushed out by the self vote

I have no problem with your scumreads, I have a problem with you tring kokichi because they're not paired with Aureal (or the other way around hard to double check on phone)

You're misrepping me real bad here

[Black]

No, I went back to see what you could possibly spin as a slip. You're fabricating the contradiction

[Black]

Tell me how I'm not solving for 2 scum teams when I say Kokichi might still be scum, just not with Aureal?

[Black]

Like christ Black's been shading and misrepping us for half the game and I still don't have as much of a problem with that as I do with your conduct this game

-A

If you think I've been misrepping you I'd love to talk about it. That is never my intentions, even when I play as wolf

[Black]

Like you explicitly gave a Kokichi townread, which is it

I said I think I townread him but that he could still be scum. Where is the confusion here?

[Black]

Anyway, I think Aureal might be scum. I'm not sold on this but it's a pretty strong gut feeling. It's a meta read that was solidified a little after her responses to me. I'm not really expecting an Aureal lim today this close to the deadline but at some point I'm going to do an ISO to see if I can find anything else

[Black]

How the hell is the Day still going.
Can we just kill someone and be done with today? Please.
VOTE: Black
At this point just vote Koki or black, I don't even care anymore. We need blood to advance the gamestate past this noxious swamp we're in

I can't believe no one else sees your scumposting lol

[Black]

I can't with this game

When I flip town, at least look at Aureal and bianco

[Black]

I can't with this game

When I flip town, at least look at Aureal and bianco

Enchant, do your magic

This is a bit sus from bianco whatever Black flips

Thank you

[Black]

This game has not been fun. Like at all

I unvoted to try and finally start solving the game and now I'm getting yeeted for it?

smh

[Black]

If you let me live I think I can be very valuable to this solve. Yes I got tilted over Koki's trolling and that caused me to lose interest in the game heavily. But now I'm feeling better about things and I think I'm on to something with Aureal

[Black]

I feel like no one is even saying why they sus me? It's literally just the same people jumping from wagon to wagon with barely any reason or logic. No shot all these wagon hoppers are town

[Black]

Ugh guys, come on. I didn't want to poke back at Black's reasoning too much because I was afraid of this and I don't have a lot of time and energy to argue. At work and shouldn't really even be looking here rn but she's probably just town stuck on that one game we played where I somehow was the most widely townread player.

I've read so many of your games Aureal. I'm kind of a big fan

I'm not seeing the same meticulousness here as I see in every other game you play. I hope you at least understand where I'm coming from with this read even if I may be wrong

[Black]

I think I want to vote Bianco today but there's no shot 6 other people agree with me here

[Black]

I guess we could vote Kokichi together

I will vote Koki if it means avoiding my lim but I don't really feel confident he's gonna flip scum

[Black]

can we not hammer while there’s a replacement ongoing

Wanna go Bianco with me?

[Black]

Does no one else see that Bianco is not trying to solve this game at all?

[Black]

VOTE: biancospino

Anyone townreading this slot, I dare you to show me how they are solving

[Black]

What is this shitpush lol

Show me where bianco is solving the game

[Black]

what

[Black]

What is this shitpush lol

dont worry, it will get to e-2 and everyone will unvote

Hop on, we're riding this one straight to hell

[Black]

preferred vote Black > Mala > Bianco

Booooooooo

[Black]

VOTE: Bianco

Wait what, how did I miss this XD

I retract the boos

@Enchant wrong wagon

[Black]

What is this shitpush lol

Show me where bianco doesh't solve game.

VOTE: Black

Are you Bianco's partner or do you just pick and choose when you wanna get serious?

[Black]

Valid point

[Black]

mala, I just want to say I love you and I hope you're doing ok

[Black]

I think that's e-2 but I'm not sure

[Black]

Since I was the first to really scum read Bianco I think it is apropos if I offer to hammer.

Have it all come full circle.

I think we could all use some sleep

mala called me her Blankie so I'm gonna sleep well

[Black]

Wow

I won't have much time to post but I'll try to catch up later

[Black]

VOTE: Aureal

Still haven't caught up but I want to vote here rn

[Black]

VOTE: Aureal

Still haven't caught up but I want to vote here rn

Catch up please.

You should before we off you.

Weekends are bad for me. I'll be here Monday

[Black]

Oy guys. Are we still in flashwagon mode? While Mala's certainly up there around the top of my suspects list too, she claims to have been sick for a good bit of the game. Especially after her end of day posts, I want to hear more from her about that, where her thoughts were, if she can. I don't want to risk flipping another townie just because she's not thinking clearly while sick. Do you guys think she's lying about being sick?

This. Why are we limming mala??? What did I miss

[Black]

Oh you're still trolling? Cool

[Black]

Maybe it is the beer talking, but my hammer finger is getting real itchy.

That's your red pm talking

[Black]

Maybe it is the beer talking, but my hammer finger is getting real itchy.

That's your red pm talking

Scumslip, mafia can have blue pm.


Black is sub zero mafia

My pm was black like my soul

[Black]

4 votes to lim. For once I think we hold off flash wagoning someone in this game XD

I still think Aureal is scum

There are 4 wolves and 3 townies left. That's just wild lol

[Black]

I know I'm town but I have no clue who the other townies are. My gut wants to say OE and Bulge

Aureal is scum, and I'm pretty sure yessiree replaced into a scum slot too

That leaves two left

[Black]

Yessiree out here asking all the important solving questions

[Black]

Chill scum. We can yeet you before Aureal if you'd like

[Black]

Oh and whichever Mafia team killed Kokichi

THANK YOU

[Black]

I thought Python was town but yessiree's posting today is very bad

I think Aureal and Black might be the other 2 town

This isn't looking good

Ok so it's furtive/Aureal

Other team is yessiree/x?

[Black]

Ty I put a ton of thought into it

[Black]

Black you're my top town

How does it feel

[Black]

Can you give me the tl;dr on why Bulge is scum? I haven't looked into his iso but I have TR'ed him pretty much all game

Also you're sure yessiree is scum now even though you thought python was town? What has been so bad about their posting?

[Black]

I thought Python was town but yessiree's posting today is very bad

I think Aureal and Black might be the other 2 town

This isn't looking good

furtive you realize to get a lim today you need at least one scum on the wagon

i mean malakittens was right how do u find motivation for this game anymore

im just gonna sheep enchant till endgame

yessiree/Enchant

[Black]

Do you post teams in hopes mafia kill them?

I post teams because it's what I think the solve is atm

[Black]

Useless.

Yeah you are huh

[Black]

I'm thriving bb lmao

Stay useless

[Black]

black let me ask you a question, what's ur step 2 after you get the game solve

play hope mafia and hope the teams cross kill each other like Aureal?

ninja'd

My step 2 is to try and lim scum and see what happens afterwards

[Black]

thats great

Ty I agree

[Black]

black let me ask you a question, what's ur step 2 after you get the game solve

play hope mafia and hope the teams cross kill each other like Aureal?

ninja'd

My step 2 is to try and lim scum and see what happens afterwards

It's funny because I thought about it some more and realized that if we get to 2:1:1 we can actually still win if we eliminate town, but not if we eliminate scum.

What even is this game.

Whoa

[Black]

Anyway I still want to hear more from Black about me! I've been expectantly awaiting this talk and all I've gotten so far is "just feels like Aureal is scum" and that makes me sad.

Sorry, my priorities are elsewhere atm. I haven't even gotten the chance to dive into your ISO to confirm my meta read. Well I probably did have the chance but I didn't take it. Anyway, I have the day off tomorrow so I plan on spending some time on stuff I've been putting off. I'll try to solidify my read here but I still think I'm right about you

[Black]

Also, I've said it before in other places, but I feel like trying to meta me is just not going to work well. I play the game I've got. Plenty of people have tried to scumread me off of meta, pointing at some other game and talking about how different I feel from that town game. My games are not the same, so I don't think I act that much the same, within certain parameters. If you think differently, please let me know why, I like feedback about myself.

I feel you here and I know exactly where you're coming from regarding meta. I'll try to reassess when I have time

[Black]

VOTE: The Bulge

i say we just kill bulge and save our mod the trouble, decent chance of flipping scum

I agree that there's a decent chance but why do you find him scummy?

[Black]

why aren't you voting if you agree there's a decent chance of that slot flipping scum?

VOTE: yessiree

The chance Bulge flips scum is purely mathematical to me. I think there's a better chance you flip scum though

Vote Switches

python/yessiree - 6
furtive - 5

HPE - 4

drew - 4

mala - 3

Aureal - 3

bianco - 3

OE - 2
Dragon/Enchant - 1

osuka - 1

Bulge - 1

Kokichi - 1

Results are kind of all over the place here but I still think python's frequent vote switching on D1 is alignment indicative. It really felt like they were in survival mode and the opportunistic vibe is something I don't like coming from python. They felt too manipulative

This is where I want to go today but that might change if I dig deeper into ISOs

[Black]

just say if u dont want to have a conversation with me, you know anything i say about python is gonna be biased

you're wrong tho

We can have a conversation all day if you want. I'm not sure anything you say can get me off my read but I'm more than willing to listen

[Black]

I want yessiree dead. That’s my prodge

that sucks
u were one of my top tr

This feels like a pocketing attempt. How does him wanting to kill you affect your read on him?

[Black]

I want yessiree dead. That’s my prodge

Join the wagon friend

[Black]

If you say so. But I think not towncasing yourself is pretty scummy here

[Black]

Why are you town?

[Black]

interesting how u started to push me all of a sudden after I put bulge to E-2 if you were so sure I had a higher chance of being scum than bulge

You made me realize I wasn't voting anywhere. So thanks, but unfortunately you're where the vote landed

[Black]

And if I was scum trying to save Bulge, why wouldn't I just jump on the mobile Aureal wagon instead of start a new one with you?

[Black]

koichi’s reads

Seriously? You mean the two sentences he dedicated to explaining his stupid meta case on me?

I'm having a hard time believing that convinced you of anything

[Black]

then why would koki be murked

Probably because he started to get townread

ur also ignoring gut feeling

Your gut feeling is fine but I'm still going to find your vote opportunistic and kinda scummy

And if I was scum trying to save Bulge, why wouldn't I just jump on the mobile Aureal wagon instead of start a new one with you?

also bulge and u aren’t aligned is what this means, but likely are opposing factions.

yessiree was arguing for Bulge + me off of this interaction. You should be arguing with them about who's team I'm on

[Black]

I mean I still think it’s impossible for town to win, so now I’m just playing for which scum team wins?

Like there’s still four scum. We can’t kill all the scum unless they both crosskill and we kill a scum today. So, really anyone is fine to die today, and it doesn’t matter who’s team you’re aligned with unless you flip scum, and we see a scum kill tonight.

Then I promise you, you don't want to flip me. Why do you think I haven't died yet? Both scum teams are keeping me alive as limbait

[Black]

Well, I really don't wanna go through the Black and Python ISOs but I think browsing the smaller ones has given me a better sense for the likelihood of pairings.

Code: Select all

furtive/yessiree
furtive/Oclax
furtive/Enchant
-furtive/Black
---furtive/Bulge

++Bulge/Black
--Bulge/yessiree
+Bulge/Oclax
+Bulge/Enchant

yessiree/Black
--yessiree/Oclax
+yessiree/Enchant

Oclax/Black
Oclax/Enchant

+Enchant/Black

So yeah, I think Bulge is a good vote here.

I've gone through the entire Undertale soundtrack and am now back at Hopes and Dreams. I'll take that as a sign to VOTE: The Bulge. E-1

VOTE: Bulge

Sorry Enchant, stealing this one from you

[Black]

So furtive AND python ended up being scum. My vote switching analysis actually caught two wolves

And Aureal. I was right about you huh? Makes sense you tried to get me to shut up about you

So one of you is alone. One of you had OE as a buddy huh? That's sad

[Black]

I'm the last town. Or am I just trying to get you to believe that?

[Black]

I guess you'll have to make that decision when you send in the NK

[Black]

or maybe furtive is the last town and you shot Enchant out of spite

Weird angle to take here. This means Aureal is probably your buddy? Or...furtive is your buddy and this was an awful attempt to pretend like he's not

[Black]

lol why say that though? it's not like it's gonna make a difference in your nk targets

As scum, what do you gain trying to paint me as scum here?

[Black]

cause you seem to have exclusive info on who's paired and who's not but if you're town you don't make the kind of claims you're making here

Why not?

[Black]

cool

[Black]

Yeah, this game was kind of a disaster. I'm glad it's over too. Probably the last one I'll mod for a while.

I'm sorry. Fwiw you truly were a great mod. You are very active and responsive, and I think you mediate very well when it is needed. Everything is neat and clean with all of your posts

If you ever do mod again I will be the first to sign up

[Black]

Congrats to Aureal, who finally rolled scum. And you actually won! Well played!! <3

[Black]

I don't think Kokichi broke the rules, I think this is just how he plays as town. He doesn't do anything and doesn't really seem to care about whether or not others are enjoying the game

Probably not worthy of a reprimand but definitely someone to avoid playing with in the future

[Black]

Fucking troll