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Xylthixlm !xmafia win
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I hope no one is stupid enough to think that my policy requires me to vote someone who self-votes and unvotes in the same post. Your transparent attempt to frame me is noted.Battle Mage wrote:
Claims this as a valid policy, but fails to follow it up, when i self-vote. Claiming to hold an opinion but being too afraid of controversy to back it up is scummy.Xylthixlm wrote:I agree with that rule.
My rule is somewhat broader: You always lynch anyone who votes themself.
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In other words, non-serious self votes don't count.#mafia@irc.globalgamers.net
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Xylthixlm !xmafia win
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The vote is PARTIALLY for lurking, I'm surprised you didn't think of that possibility.Battle Mage wrote:
looking for an escape route-a way to unvote without looking conspicuous.Xylthixlm wrote:Puta Puta, I'll unvote you if you explain what you've been thinking so far this game.
Not a post you would see from a townie- if you think someone is scum, why would their thoughts on the game be enough to make you unvote, unless the vote was PURELY for lurking, which isnt enough for a vote anyway.
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Total reasons to vote puta puta with lurking > total reasons not to vote puta puta
Total reasons to vote puta puta if he/she/it stops lurking < total reasons not to vote puta puta#mafia@irc.globalgamers.net
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Xylthixlm !xmafia win
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Natirasha Jack of All Trades
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killa seven Mafia Scum
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are you serious?Puta Puta wrote:but idk what's going on... -.-ShowGames Won..
Mini 545 as town.
Mini 578 as scum.
mini 618 as scum.
Mushroom Kingdom as town.
Monty pythons as town.
mini 642 bodyguard 7 as town
Explosive mafia - as scum
mini 712 -town-
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Xylthixlm !xmafia win
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I think we're being trolled.Natirasha wrote:
This is a rudimentary scumploy only used by novice mafiates. Just check pretty much any newbie game if you want proof. In short, it confirms my vote.Puta Puta wrote:you wanna kill ur cop, fine with me.#mafia@irc.globalgamers.net
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Sir Tornado Mafia Scum
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Shanba So win
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The plan outlined by Sir Tornado here:
is very strong. Especially as I suspect that opinions on Puta Puta are being distorted by terrible play from him, play which may or may not be evidence of scumminess. I note natirasha's comment but am not convinced.Sir Tornado wrote:
Xylthixlm, the key to this is, what happens if he/she/it is a scum masquerading as a cop? We still have him/her on the rack. You can't hope to go a long way in a large game by claiming cop on D1. If Puta Puta is scum, it doesn't matter when we get rid of her, it just matters whether we do; but in case she is a cop, we don't want to lynch her right now. It's not as if we are in a LyLo or something right now.Xylthixlm wrote:I'm really, really trying hard to convince myself to unvote Puta Puta in case he/she/it is a real cop.
So far it's not working.
As for skitzer: I stand by what I said, and I thank skitzer for his apology. I'd like to apologise myself for the way I phrased it, but my point still stands. I don't know abut anyone else, but there's a limit to how much information I can process. A post which is just a summary of game events is roughly equivalent to a spampost - it does not bring anything we don't already know to the table. The signal:noise ratio, in other words, is adversely affected. Long posts withsomeanalysis or showing of thoughts in them are fine, like tubby's post.(10:50:24 PM) xcaykex: GODDAMNIT I DONT WANNA GET RID OF MY TENTACLE RAPE PORN
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no, i'm too overwhelmed by whats going on in the game, i honestly don't know wtf is going on...Sir Tornado wrote:Killa Seven, want to add something?
Puta Puta, do you think mafia is played the way you are playing right now? We have 20+ pages so far, don't you have an opinion on anything in the game so far?
let's do this to relieve the pain
Mod, please find a replacement for me, sorry
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skitzer Mafia Scum
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I can understand your point of view, but I really think PBPAs are okay when they are done by replacements, as they give the players who have been here for the entirety to see what replacements think about everything in the past.Shanba wrote:The plan outlined by Sir Tornado here:
is very strong. Especially as I suspect that opinions on Puta Puta are being distorted by terrible play from him, play which may or may not be evidence of scumminess. I note natirasha's comment but am not convinced.Sir Tornado wrote:
Xylthixlm, the key to this is, what happens if he/she/it is a scum masquerading as a cop? We still have him/her on the rack. You can't hope to go a long way in a large game by claiming cop on D1. If Puta Puta is scum, it doesn't matter when we get rid of her, it just matters whether we do; but in case she is a cop, we don't want to lynch her right now. It's not as if we are in a LyLo or something right now.Xylthixlm wrote:I'm really, really trying hard to convince myself to unvote Puta Puta in case he/she/it is a real cop.
So far it's not working.
As for skitzer: I stand by what I said, and I thank skitzer for his apology. I'd like to apologise myself for the way I phrased it, but my point still stands. I don't know abut anyone else, but there's a limit to how much information I can process. A post which is just a summary of game events is roughly equivalent to a spampost - it does not bring anything we don't already know to the table. The signal:noise ratio, in other words, is adversely affected. Long posts withsomeanalysis or showing of thoughts in them are fine, like tubby's post.-
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Sir Tornado Mafia Scum
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Xylthixlm !xmafia win
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You should have clarified your policy earlier. How do you gauge if a vote is serious or not?Xylthixlm wrote:
I hope no one is stupid enough to think that my policy requires me to vote someone who self-votes and unvotes in the same post. Your transparent attempt to frame me is noted.Battle Mage wrote:
Claims this as a valid policy, but fails to follow it up, when i self-vote. Claiming to hold an opinion but being too afraid of controversy to back it up is scummy.Xylthixlm wrote:I agree with that rule.
My rule is somewhat broader: You always lynch anyone who votes themself.
BM
In other words, non-serious self votes don't count.
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Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
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Day-elimmed by majority - 4
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So the fact he is lurking is what's tipping the balance? I find that rather weak...Xylthixlm wrote:
The vote is PARTIALLY for lurking, I'm surprised you didn't think of that possibility.Battle Mage wrote:
looking for an escape route-a way to unvote without looking conspicuous.Xylthixlm wrote:Puta Puta, I'll unvote you if you explain what you've been thinking so far this game.
Not a post you would see from a townie- if you think someone is scum, why would their thoughts on the game be enough to make you unvote, unless the vote was PURELY for lurking, which isnt enough for a vote anyway.
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BMShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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Shanba So win
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Xylthixlm !xmafia win
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Having players in the game whose play can't be analyzed for scumminess gives the scum an extra place to hide. I don't like giving the scum places to hide.
I am completely convinced that it's rational to vote lurkers in many situations even if lurking is not a scumtell for the player in question.#mafia@irc.globalgamers.net
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I don't think it's impossible to analyse lurkers.Xylthixlm wrote:Having players in the game whose play can't be analyzed for scumminess gives the scum an extra place to hide. I don't like giving the scum places to hide.
I am completely convinced that it's rational to vote lurkers in many situations even if lurking is not a scumtell for the player in question.
-first, set it in context. Are they V/LA, are they posting in other games etc.
-second, analyse any posts theyhavemade.
-third, if this is not enough to get a read on them, check your reads on the other players in the game. In many games I have played most of the active players in the game seem scummy - in this case, I tend to think the lurkers are likely town. OTOH, many other games all the active players have felt town and so we've lynched the lurkers. That seems to be a good way of going about it, to me.
The thing is, there's no such thing as an absolute lurker. Someone who never posts will be replaced, someone who doesn't post very much will always leave a certain amount of content, and the very fact that they're lurking may be significant in the context of the game - for example, only lurking when under pressure. I realise this needs time, but for that reason I'm OK with leaving lurkers alive for a few days. Besides, vigs might kill 'em anyway. And in Puta Puta's case, he has claimed a power role. It might simple be atrocious cop play - I want to see how his replacement handles it.(10:50:24 PM) xcaykex: GODDAMNIT I DONT WANNA GET RID OF MY TENTACLE RAPE PORN
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Xylthixlm !xmafia win
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Fortunately, Puta Puta is being replaced, so the argument is academic until we go to bandwagon killa seven.
Rereading on the off chance that someone said something scummy in the last five pages.#mafia@irc.globalgamers.net
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Xylthixlm !xmafia win
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BM 381: Slightly worrying, as I've used that line myself as scum.
militant 402: "beginning to annoy me" is not my favorite reason for a vote
SirT 404: Leaving a trail is good. Suspicion on BM noted. "deliberate" ambiguous playstyle, antitown.
Ectomancer 411: Yes.
BM 488: BM calling me "obvscum" means I'm playing right
Yos2 499: I agree with Yosarian2
BM 514: BM shows no evidence of considering whether my policy is a good idea
skitzer general: Where's that analysis?#mafia@irc.globalgamers.net
"Xyl was completely berserk" -dramonic
"Xyl's ruthless policy lynching won the game." -Vi-
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