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[Narration]

Day 3 Count IV

Hugir (3) - IceDragon70, Enchant, Flavor Leaf
Flavor Leaf (1) - furtiveglance
ActionDan (1) - Abnegation
Abnegation (1) - ActionDan

Not Voting

- The Keeper, Feysal, Hugir

Notes

• With 9 remaining, it takes 5 to form a majority.
  
• Mod ISO is here.
  
• Tell me if I missed any votes or questions.

Day 3

concludes in (expired on 2023-04-25 11:44:00)

[Hugir]

I won’t be around for another 10 hours or so and I see that I’m about to be mislimmed. I guess while partly it’s on me for being complacent and focusing my effort on team mafia, I want y’all to consider that I have never really been pushed (well I think myself p obvtown) until I claimed my role, that again, if I was scum I wouldn’t have claimed truthfully.

Scum wants me limmed today because I’m too dangerous to attempt to nightkill. Like, even if I’m scum (I’m blue as I can ever be, mind you), I’m literally #1 target to be killed tonight over the lovers because while they’re free kills, I can seriously fuck over whatever agenda I have, even if I’m random redirector.

ngl I don’t like resorting to stuff like this and prefer something more solid, short deadlines has been getting me good. If y’all can wait 12 hours or so and still dead set on mislimming me at least let me post my final thoughts after I’m back from work. Although idk if my final thoughts really matter because we p much can’t win if I’m mislimmed today.

[Flavor Leaf]

UNVOTE: Hugir

[Flavor Leaf]

My gut’s saying Abnegation.

[Flavor Leaf]

At the expense of tying myself to Hugir and defending them, I gotta trust the gut here today.

VOTE: Abnegation

[Enchant]

Just in a case: Redirecting players on self for town-redirector is big no-no and warrants a policy.

[Feysal]

Then if you are town, you're using your singular pov to rationalize it as silly while trying to dismiss it as such when from my pov, there's nothing that show that it's not warranted a piece of the discussional pie.

Just looks overly defensive.

Even if it was defensive, what else am I supposed to do in endgame while being accused? And I was not just dismissing it as silly, I pointed out facts that were posted in thread. I got here when I did because that was when my clock woke me up, it is as simple as that.

Now, I've been to the dentist and feeling better than I did last night. Time to see where my thoughts are.

I don't think all the theorycrafting is going to lead us to a solution. We don't have enough information to figure out what or who caused the inconsistencies we have. And we don't even know whether the Keeper ever got my flyer, which would be yet another one if they did not. But it is not for nothing, because looking at who is saying what can still be informative.

I don't think Hugir's claim makes them scum. Being last to claim can be suspicious, because it helps scum avoid being caught lying. But Hugir actually gave us a new inconsistency, because their claim did not explain how KawaiiKame neighborized Aisa. I think that is significant. I also don't buy the idea of redirection being a factional ability. The things Rautherdir said imply Benediction had some reason to believe Malediction would be in the same situation as them, which would mean their factional abilities were somehow mirrored. And in that case, using a factional ability as a claim would be doubly dangerous, because even if town believes it, the other scum team is certain to notice. I believe that claim, and Hugir is the least likely to be scum, either faction, in the pool of suspects.

Flavor Leaf has posted some truly wild theories which could have been a distraction, and at one point I started to think if his eagerness to see me as specifically Benediction was because he was Malediction himself, since both scum teams are legitimately hunting each other. But the feeling passed, and he has been looking for Malediction candidates too.

ActionDan has pretty consistently made sense to me all game, and while his claim was fairly safe for scum to make, it also gave us a new inconsistency like Hugir's did, and with added risk of being countered since everyone else had not claimed yet.

The Keeper remains absent. The theory of self-targeting to prove yourself as not Benediction is plausible. I always wondered what the point of that investigation was, because after how Rautherdir shaded the Keeper after being hammered, it already looked very unlikely they were partners.

Abnegation is the most logical option for Benediction here. There is the one post where she suggested flashwagoning Kawaii, which could have been a subtle attempt to split the votes to save her partner. She has also suggested alternative theories for why there has only been one kill every night, which makes sense from her today, but she actually started that

yesterday

. She was the one who came up with the arsonist idea after the first night. I don't think I've ever seen an arsonist, and it is interesting that her mind would go there instead of thinking about a roleblocker or jailkeeper, which are far more common. If she knew she had been blocked, she would have an interest to suggest alternative theories to distract us, but she should not have known until today.

VOTE: Abnegation

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: HugirVOTE:

let's listen to the town

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: HugirVOTE:

let's listen to the town

VOTE: Hugir

My b

[Abnegation]

VOTE: hugir

[Abnegation]

benediction could be a benign scum group but i don’t know that it’s wise to make assumptions yet.

*unless there's something else that can kill, which i'm not sure of since the mod said atypical faction abilities are possible.
i'm going to take a guess that one faction has a standard nk and one has something else.

I doubt it, if only for balance reasons. How would such a faction even win?

rh said in the setup post that there may or may not be non-standard factional abilities. that disclaimer is more than likely there for a reason. unless that's the mod misdirection?
a faction like that doesn't have to lack killing power completely, they just might not have a standard nightkill. this thread has some examples of atypical factions.

I’ve been theorizing alternate factional abilities since early d1. couldn’t have known I’d get roleblocked then.

[Abnegation]

^
autocorrect wrecking my lowercase posting.

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: hugir

This is E-1.

[Hugir]

Welp The Keeper is gonna lolhammer me soon since his vla is over today

At least y’all will find out who benediction is tomorrow because they’ll have to claim tomorrow whether they have killing ability or not because it’s gonna be either 2:1:2 or 3:1:2

[Hugir]

When was the last time I ever got mislimmed

Like 3~4 years ago?

[Hugir]

Last time I was ever a game-costing mislim was way back in 2013~2014 in meme mafia micro

So it would be like 9 or 10 years ago
It’s a game and all but damn this stings

[Hugir]

Town anti-redirector with town redirector fucking lol

[Hugir]

Ok I’m done with my 5 states of grief

I’m gonna just place my vote on that-one-scum-that-everyone-scumreads-and-yet-not-a-single-vote-on-him as my final will

VOTE: The Keeper

[Abnegation]

UNVOTE:

lemme think.
i think i might prefer keeper.

[furtiveglance]

UNVOTE:

Can we do ActionDan instead? I'd rather not do Abnegation.

[furtiveglance]

I could do Keeper as well yeah

[Abnegation]

VOTE: the keeper

[The Keeper]

dropping the keeper schtick for a moment I am exausted. I didn't get back home last night like I planned to, turns out the trains don't run as late as they used to.

I have seen some claims and the notifs, yes I am Affiliation. This wasn't really the best time for me to get this kinda role ngl xD but ya know, that's what I get. I'll be doing a read up tomorrow. D1 I targetted Feysal iirc, which failed obviously as they're not also Affiliation.

anyway, will be back to making bad Isaac references tomorrow <3

[The Keeper]

Also I believe from information the moderator has provided in the opening post of the Affiliation Vacuum that I am in a masonry.

So going for the mason is not a good idea.

[The Keeper]

actually i've got 6 hours, nuts. ok.