Invitational 10: 2005-2006. Game over! before 624

[pablito]

I could be up for a Huck lynch as well, but right now I don't feel the need to hammer.

When I read through Huck's posts, the person that pinged the most was Patrick. Huck was initially talking a lot about Patrick being scum upon entering, but then later gets really stuck on e_k and then doesn't fully address why he dropped Patrick. Considering that Huck didn't go after DGB at first, I could see this interaction as a real attempt to bus that just fell off for no reason. So I would say vig Patrick.

If Huck isn't actually scum, then just vig someone useless. Based on interactions with DGB, I think CTD and Huck were the best connections to be scum partners, but I do think that if Huck isn't scum, I'm not sure CTD is the way to go. But could be worth a try. Patrick could be a worthwhile vig anyway because he could be hiding his relations with others really well. Elias could be another option too. He's failed to give significant analysis today. I feel less certain on his scuminess at this time, but it might feel better for a lot of people if he's gone.

If Lowell discloses, scum could target someone else if they were both going to aim at who Lowell says.

[Patrick]

I have a hard time believing that if HackerHuck turns up scum, you see me as the best bet for a partner of his.

Patrick could be a worthwhile vig anyway because he could be hiding his relations with others really well.

What's that supposed to mean?

If Lowell discloses, scum could target someone else if they were both going to aim at who Lowell says.

This seems like a kind of trifling objection to me. Assuming Lowell is a vig, is it really that likely the vig target and the scum target was going to coincide?

Mafia doctors are not unheard-of.

This is an even more trifling objection. Mafia doctors are rare, and unless this mafia doctor could self-protect, it'd presumably be protecting it's partner either way.

I think declaring the target is better because it gives the target a chance to claim, and it means poweroles can plan around the kill. Those seems more important to me than the above two quotes.

[OhGodMyLife]

Vote Count:

5 to lynch

HackerHuck: 4 (CrashTextDummie, Patrick, Xylthixlm, elvis_knits)
pablito: 1 (Elias_the_thief)

Not Voting: 4 (bluesoul, Lowell, pablito, HackerHuck)

[elvis_knits]

It mostly seems like Patrick is afraid of being vigged, so that's why he wants to know who the target is.

I see another downside to lowell declaring: depending on the target's allignment, scum may choose to kill lowell or not.

[Lowell]

It mostly seems like Patrick is afraid of being vigged, so that's why he wants to know who the target is.

I see another downside to lowell declaring: depending on the target's allignment, scum may choose to kill lowell or not.

^^^ this is the one I was thinking of. Fortunately, you see, me killing horribly N1 was just a way of lulling them into letting me live forever.

Also, those who say "regardless of HH alignment" when suggesting kills make no sense to me.

[Patrick]

It mostly seems like Patrick is afraid of being vigged, so that's why he wants to know who the target is.

It mostly seems like elvis will try to read something bad into absolutely everything Patrick says. Btw, is not wanting to be vigged scummy?

I see another downside to lowell declaring: depending on the target's allignment, scum may choose to kill lowell or not.

I don't understand this. I've always seen it as a vigs kill goes through even if the vig is themselves nightkilled.

Also, those who say "regardless of HH alignment" when suggesting kills make no sense to me.

Well, those that do fuck all just because they're near confirmed innocent make no sense to me either, but let me explain: I think that after HackerHuck, Xylthixlm is far and away the scummiest player in the game. HackerHuck being town or scum doesn't change that. I'm not sure what "makes no sense" to you about that.

[Xylthixlm]

Btw, is not wanting to be vigged scummy?

My first reaction was that a misvig is the same as a mislynch. On the other hand, I think vigging an ultrascummy player and lynching a slightly less scummy player generates more information than the other way around, so if you're pretty sure you would be lynched anyways, you might as well just get vigged.

Of course, it's really up to the vig.

How come I never get vig on forum games?

[bluesoul]

Of course, it's really up to the vig.

This. If we let the confirmed player do what he thinks is best, we minimize the chance of scum subverting the choice.

I'm a bit surprised to see nobody's unvoted HH after the vanilla claim. Seems you guys are pretty sold on him?

[CrashTextDummie]

Why would a vanilla claim make me want to unvote him? The fact that he barely defended himself at all makes me very confident that he is scum.

[Xylthixlm]

I'm a bit surprised nobody's hammered HH after the vanilla claim.

[Patrick]

I would have been sceptical of a powerole claim because then OGML's post offering to hammer a potential supersaint would have made even less sense to me. But I don't think a vanilla claim is enough to let him off.

HackerHuck, since you haven't really defended yourself, let me ask you in question form: what did you find scummy about DGB's late flip-flopping on MBL? What about that was worse than previous flip flops in the game? (which I don't remember you commenting on).

[CrashTextDummie]

How long are we gonna wait on HackerHuck?

[elvis_knits]

Someone should hammer.

[bluesoul]

Vote HackerHuck

Not sure we're making a perfect play here but when he doesn't bother making an adequate defense it's probably as good as it's gonna get today.

Try not to kill town, Lowell.

[Xylthixlm]

Better yet, try to kill scum.

[HackerHuck]

Sorry about not getting back to this when I promised. Real life has unfortunately taken a turn for the worse. Since I'm certainly lynched, I won't post up my final suspicions.

Apologies to the town for the subpar performance.

[OhGodMyLife]

Vote Count:

5 to lynch

HackerHuck: 5 (CrashTextDummie, Patrick, Xylthixlm, elvis_knits, bluesoul)
pablito: 1 (Elias_the_thief)

Not Voting: 3 (Lowell, pablito, HackerHuck)

HackerHuck has been lynched! He was a

Nameless Newbie, Vanilla

.

It is now night two. Night will last 72 hours.

[OhGodMyLife]

Fair warning, I'm very unlikely to have internet access again before Monday, so don't expect daybreak before that time. Night deadline for all night actions is still 72 hours from the lynch scene.

[OhGodMyLife]

Seven of you live to see daylight. Lowell didn't make it. He was

Pie_is_good, one-shot vigilante

.

It is now day three.

Vote Count:

4 to lynch

Not Voting: 7 (bluesoul, Elias_the_thief, elvis_knits, Patrick, pablito, CrashTextDummie, Xylthixlm)

[bluesoul]

Interesting, I wonder if he knew he was one shot and intentionally failed to mention it, or if the mod concealed that. Guess it doesn't matter but doesn't lessen the curiosity.

Well, the good news as far as I can tell is now the game's gonna play out like a typical 7-manner, we aren't particularly ahead or behind,

except

we should have a fair amount of info at this point. The downside is I believe we've got quite a bit of power amongst the remaining town at this point. If we're gonna screw up, this is the point in the game where we're really likely to put ourselves in a bind if night actions start going uncoordinated. I really have to push for a massclaim now rather than later.

[Xylthixlm]

Having power is a downside?

[bluesoul]

Having power is a downside?

No, the fact that we'll likely be losing power from here on out is.

[Patrick]

Yeah, I agree with massclaiming now.

[Xylthixlm]

I have no objection to a mass claim.

[CrashTextDummie]

Must say I'm a bit shocked that HackerHuck came up town.

My instinct is to go back to Bluesoul, because his posts 1407 and 1413 seriously rub me the wrong way. Not because he cast the hammer vote (I have no problem with that at all), but because they don't seem to jive with the fairly damning case Bluesoul himself posted not long before. However, seeing as we're probably one mis-lynch away from lylo, I'm gonna re-evaluate everyone, including those I wasn't suspicious of before.

But before that, we might as well get the massclaim over with, because I agree that now is the time to do it. For the record, I think elvis_knits should go first. We can go popcorn style from there.