Mini #682: C9++ (Game Over!)

[wolframnhart]

If we lynch CF_Riot, I will block Scheherazade.

If we lynch someone else, I will block CF_Riot.

One of the reasons I wanted to wait for sekinj to post was to test a possible, though unlikely, theory.

There is

one

situation that might lead to a scum win, at this point, I think. If we get to lynch-or-lose and the real scum manages to convince the Town that

I

am scum, pulling a massive gambit. I wanted to look for any hints of such foreshadowing. I didn't see any.

And of course there is this post, where Germy set up this scenario. Now i can say these things because Germy has already proved I am town by blocking me and there being a kill that night and myo is a proven mason.

[sekinj]

@wolf - If germy has been playing us, then his "blocks" mean nothing!!

[wolframnhart]

SP blocked atrem/shanba - no kill

SP killed germy takes over role

shanba lynched saying "go team" very disappointed it seems

Now remember, scum aren't required to send in a kill. Here is where it gets interesting.

Germy blocks CF_Riot, no kill that night.

Wall-E is lynched, why wouldn't germy go after his blocked target, just to see if scum were trying to fake us out with a no kill or if he had picked the right person? Why wait on CF?

I am blocked and Kair dies, scum has to get rid of the masons and start "confirming" townies or else the scum get stuck with no one but confirmed townies.

CF_Riot lynched, and Zade blocked. Again no night kill.

Zade is lynched, and i am guessing Sek was blocked. No night kill.

Now Germy has two confirmed townies, because his blocks

do

mean something Sek. Either they mean he was lying about being a back up role blocker and was killing people off as he needed to, or he really is the back up role blocker and YOU are the last scum Sek, so to say they don't mean something even if he was playing us is not true at all.

[sekinj]

I meant, they weren't actually blocks. it's frustrating because I feel very set up. I'm the last unconfirmed townie. Do we have any more mislynches or are we are lylo?

[mykonian]

a if germy is lying, there would be a serial killer. There is none.
b after the moment that kai was killed, scum had lost. Killing only brought more confirmed players, and killing germy ended all the suspicion on him. Its a pity I fully believe germy...

vote sekinj

[wolframnhart]

Ok so how does the SK theory work? I am trying to look at the formulas and figure it out, but my brain is stupid and i can't get it right it seems. Show me how there can be a serial killer if Germy is lying and i will gladly place my vote on Sek and apologize for doubting Germy.

[mykonian]

even amount of T's is SK.

We know there is none, there have never been 2 kills.

Therefor, the amount of t's must be 1,3,5 or 7. We know that kai and I are masons, we represent 2 letters. We know SP was blocker, that represented 1 too.

that leaves us the 1 and the 3. Assuming town hasn't lied (and if you did, you don't deserve to win), and we are on 4 possible T's. One of the players must represent one letter. Only one person has claimed so: germy. Every claim that comes now, is too late I think, and unbelieveble. That's why germy is confirmed. If he was mafia, we would need an other powerrole, and noone has claimed that.

[wolframnhart]

I see. Ok then thank you for clearing that up for me myko, sorry for the doubt Germy but when i am being lead blindly i like to know who my guide is

vote Sek

[germy]

and...

Vote: sekinj

My scum gambit worked! The Mafia wins! Mwahahahaha!

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Just kidding. Go Town!

I can't believe that sekinj was the last scum, I was pretty convinced you weren't.

I'm eager now to see the end-of-game discussion... I want to know what you all were thinking...

[iamausername]

Votecount #37: The Final Votecount of the Game!

sekinj (3) - mykonian, wolframnhart, germy

Not Voting (1) - sekinj

3 to lynch.

sekinj, Mafia - Lynched Day 7

And with that,

germy, Serial Killer wins!

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Yeah, I'm kidding too.

germy (Backup Blocker), mykonian (Mason) and wolframnhart (Vanilla Townie)

survive and

TOWN WINS!!!

Notes to follow.

[mykonian]

both times I was like: no, it can't be...


And luckily it wasn't.

[iamausername]

The setup rolled was TTTTMMBB.

The roles were:

afatchic/Scheherazade - Vanilla Townie
sekinj - Mafia Goon
ChuckNorris/Ku_F/Wall-E - Vanilla Townie
springlullaby - Vanilla Townie
Artem/Shanba - Mafia Godfather
Kairyuu - Mason
alvinz95/SilverPhoenix - Roleblocker
Edify/Scigatt/Natirasha - Mafia Roleblocker
CF Riot - Vanilla Townie
germy - Backup Blocker
mykonian - Mason
Nightwolf/wolframnhart - Vanilla Townie

NIGHT ACTIONS

Night 1:

alvinz95/SilverPhoenix

blocks

Artem/Shanba

Artem/Shanba

tries to kill

CF Riot

(blocked)

Edify/Scigatt/Natirasha

blocks

afatchic/Scheherazade

Night 2:

alvinz95/SilverPhoenix

blocks

Artem/Shanba

sekinj

kills

alvinz95/SilverPhoenix

germy (Backup Blocker)

is activated by

alvinz95/SilverPhoenix

's death

Night 3:

sekinj

submits no kill

germy

blocks

CF Riot

Night 4:

sekinj

kills

Kairyuu

germy

blocks

Nightwolf/wolframnhart

Night 5:

sekinj

submits no kill

germy

blocks

afatchic/Scheherazade

Night 6:

sekinj

tries to kill

mykonian

(blocked)

germy

blocks

sekinj

NOTES:

The town played extremely well through the first three days, which set them into an almost guaranteed win, which then became an entirely assured win when sekinj made the mistake of killing Kairyuu instead of germy on Night 4. If she hadn't done that, I think it inevitably would have come down to a final day of her against CF Riot (I figure Scheherazade would have been lynched first if Kairyuu lived - that was some severe tunnel vision he had going on), with two out of Kairyuu/mykonian/wolframnhart having to decide between them, and I think it would have been interesting to see which way that went. I must admit, I was rooting for sekinj after Day 3, because if she had pulled a win out of that situation, it would have been impressive. But alas, it was not to be.

Thanks for playing, everyone! Y'all gave me a good game for my first try at modding, and I appreciate it.

[SilverPhoenix]

Great game guys! I've been following it closely since I died. At first, I was going to scream at the "doc" for not protecting the obvious target. But then I realized the possible gambit on germy's part, and waited for the town to figure out the rest of the scum. Of course, then I was worried that you guys couldn't nail down the last scum. But good job anyways!
Yeah, I decided to block Shanba again N2 because I felt blocking him was better than guessing and possibly hitting the nonexistent doc (thanks germy ). After I died, I figured that they either switched who sent in the kill or blocked me to prevent me from blocking the kill. I am just glad I blocked Shanba N1, as that pretty much enabled the game to turn out the way it did. I was just sad I didn't leave to see it.
This was probably my best game, so thanks to everyone in it, including iamausername for great modding!

[SilverPhoenix]

EDWOP: lol@iamausername. Jumping right on the mini theme queue after your game ends.
j/k

[iamausername]

I've been itching to do it since Day 5. You guys just had to leave sekinj alive for three days and draw it out as long as possible.

Did anyobdy notice my flavour text sort of getting less flavourful after the ending became inevitable? I tried to keep to my original standard, but I might have slipped a little from time to time.

[Wall-E]

I helped!

[springlullaby]

Hurray! Were I right or what?

Lol, day 2 was kinda excruciating to watch, I was pissed when Artem got replaced by Shanba, I thought you guys were never going to nail him since Silver Phoenix seemingly backed off pushing the case against him.

But all's well that ends well!

[germy]

If sekinj had not no-killed, I think he would have won, especially if he even left me alive. I am absolutely horrible at finding scum, aren't I?

I am curious, from the assorted mafiaso - What was thought of my "Nurse" claim at the time, and was I anywhere near the mark with my gambit?

[Wall-E]

ITT germy was the MVP of this game.

[springlullaby]

Great game guys! I've been following it closely since I died. At first, I was going to scream at the "doc" for not protecting the obvious target. But then I realized the possible gambit on germy's part, and waited for the town to figure out the rest of the scum. Of course, then I was worried that you guys couldn't nail down the last scum. But good job anyways!
Yeah, I decided to block Shanba again N2 because I felt blocking him was better than guessing and possibly hitting the nonexistent doc (thanks germy ). After I died, I figured that they either switched who sent in the kill or blocked me to prevent me from blocking the kill. I am just glad I blocked Shanba N1, as that pretty much enabled the game to turn out the way it did. I was just sad I didn't leave to see it.
This was probably my best game, so thanks to everyone in it, including iamausername for great modding!

I think you played really well, good posts, sounding extremely town, and keping your head cool. Same for Nightwolf and CF.

If sekinj had not no-killed, I think he would have won, especially if he even left me alive. Razz I am absolutely horrible at finding scum, aren't I?

I am curious, from the assorted mafiaso - What was thought of my "Nurse" claim at the time, and was I anywhere near the mark with my gambit?

Yeah, I think you got a bit sucked in by the mechanics aspect of the game rather than scumhunting but your gambit worked pretty good in the end.

Sekinj did a really good job two, she adapted her play really well to all the criticisms.

[SilverPhoenix]

What was thought of my "Nurse" claim at the time, and was I anywhere near the mark with my gambit?

The gambit turned out nicely, but I was somewhat furious as to why I was killed when there was a doc....but that was okay for the sake of the gambit.

[mykonian]

Germy, the question I asked myself just after I read your semi claim: Would you also have done it with a nurse or deputy? I thought it most likely for you to be 1 shot vig, or both a little less likely, SK or Backup Blocker. The best thing you did, was claiming a letter. It helped a lot in mass-claim.

[sekinj]

*whew* It's hard being the only scum left. expecially since I'm not good at setups or math :/

I guess I ended up killing kair because I believed the talk about it being "inevitable" town win at that point, and figured I could at least be scummy enough to deny kair the chance to lynch Zade... as he So wanted to do I guess I had a chance afterwall *shrug* lessons learned

[Kairyuu]

Yup. Like I admitted to the mod, I was pretty much convinced by the end of D2 that Zade was town, but since we were essentially guarenteed a win anyway once things fell into place I decided to just keep pushing for it so I could just get the one lynch I had been pushing for. I knew I was tunnelling, but I figured that Zade was an extremely good player and would probably benefit from my constant pressure. Consider it my way of taching you how to handle pressure as town. Just survive 37 pages of constant attacks by a pit bull and you can handle anything!

I had quite a bit of fun, even though I didn't manage to do all that much that was overly useful (aside from the whole massclaim=win thing, which I don't count since it was just manipulating the math and convincing people of it).

Oh, and SL, I apologize for the "passive aggressive" thing from D1. I wasn't trying to act that way, so if I really was, I'm sorry.

Great game all!

[wolframnhart]

Great game guys. Germy I apologize for doubting you there for a minute, but it was the setup that confused me i really couldn't figure out the percentages and how people were coming up with "Germy can't be scum on a gambit cuz there would have to be an SK" thing.