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GnKoichi Goon
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I wouldn't have a problem with those two votes, because two votes against a lurker who hasn't really given comprehensive reasons for their posts seems reasonable. Except there are at least two lurkers who have done LESS and there's Charter who has done WORSE.
If you take those votes out of the context of this game, I think they're fine.
Considering he's only been in for about half the game, having a small number of posts is somewhat understandable. He said he doesn't like to be overly wordy (I think he could stand to be a bit more vocal) but this makes sense with what Wall-E said recently. There have been a lot of vocal scumhunters in this game. With Myself, You, Wall-E, Charter, and Nameless, it's easy to take a back seat. I think Stef, Kmd, and Plum have found somewhat of balance. I think OP, Tony, Mana, and Ani could all do more. I think Tony and OP have probably done less in terms of time played : posts made, but that's just a hunch.---
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Stef Mafia Scum
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On Animorpherv: He's gonewayup in my suspicions with that last post. I'll quote it and comment in bold, yeah?
Ani's posts:animorpherv1 wrote:
Becauase I thought the was scumKiro wrote: He replaces in, votes Wall-E
Because he suugested people claim targets Day 2? I don't think it was the smartest proposition, but much worse happened during the setup discussion, which Ani didn't comment on at all. He also says Wall-E was "contradictory", making him "scum right there". An almost baseless suspicion and vote - a quick vote on the player with the highest vote count at that. If he would cite some instances himself or even build some sort of basic case on Wall-E, I'd be all right with that - I was quite suspicious of Wall-E at that time myself. As it stands, looks baseless and perhaps opportunistic, and not making a decent case before/with a vote is anti-town and potentially scummy in my book.
I thought he did from what GNK said, I noticed that was a mistakeKiro wrote: asks if charter claimed scum
Alone, a nulltell, with your behavior as a whole, potentially scummy. In either case try toread the thread yourselfand not rely on what everyone else seems to be saying (seriously, remember that not everyone is trying to help the town here). In this case you were wrong. Do better.
So, if you think someone is scum, you won't vote them? How interesting...Kiro wrote:votes charter for a scummy vibe.
You had over 16 pages to look at for scumtells and the most you tell us is that looking at Charter's posts you get a scum vibe. Not town helpful, as given seems almost baseless. If you'd analyzed, found two players' actions about equally scummy and had more of a scum vibe on one, I'd be all right with a vote decided by gut. This is just unhelpful and scummy. Your distracting, dare I say stupid rhetorical question at Kiro also looks scummy. Did you intentionally misinterpret his statement?
Yah, right, that's the "hot topic". I've been watching the thread, at least.Kiro wrote: He's not discussing anything at all, particularly one of the hottest topics of the Day.
Prove it by giving your opinion on topics the town is focusing on, even if you have to tell us why you think it's irrelevent.
Becuase I don't feel like a lot of words actuallyKiro wrote: If you read all of his posts alone, it's surprising how few words have come out from himhelps
Maybe words don't always make that much of a difference, but your posts sorely lacksubstanceof any sort.
? I do, I'm not stupid.Kiro wrote:and it's hard to say if he even knows GnK exists.
Prove it.
Want anything else, just ask.
0. Confirms replacing.
1. Votes Wall-E, tiny case.
2. Backs up vote with unwarranted statement.
3. Quotes for truth; substanceless.
4. FOSs Charter because he heard Charter claimed scum.
5. "Oops" on the last post.
6. Baseless suspicions of Nameless being "up to something", parroting Wall-E.
7. Votes Charter on scum vibe.
8. Post quoted above; stupid arguments.
9. Sarcastically notes Stef's vote on him.
HOS: Animorpherv
Also:
Um, warm fuzzy feeling?GnKoichi wrote:Plum does something similar, though more often and even more comprehensive, so she's clear in my mind. I think she's a good example for what the others should aspire to.
Lastly:
Youcharter wrote:That was who I would kill if it were up to me, not who I find scummiest.wouldn'tkill who you found scummiest? Or, what do you mean by this?-
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Wall-E Mafia Scum
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VOTE COUNT
Charter - 5 - [GnKoichi, Wall-E, animorpherv, Tony Montana, orangepenguin]
GnKoihi - 3 - [Kmd, charter , Plum]
animorpherv - 2 - [Kiro, Stef]
Not Voting - 2 - [Mana_Ku, Nameless]
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charter Beware of Dog
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I'm saying in antifa you lurked your way to a win along with the whole scumteam. You're not very active in this game either.Stef wrote:@Charter: Lurkerscum? So now you think i am scum as well?
I'd kill of those people. I think they are scummy (not the scummiest except in GK's case) and lurk so bad, if they are scum, they'd get a free ride to a victory.plum wrote:You wouldn't kill who you found scummiest? Or, what do you mean by this?-
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Stef Mafia Scum
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I'm restraining yet again from personal insults even if you LIE again. I stated clearly that i didn't lurk and i stated it again after we won that i was actually afraid that the fact that i was away could cost me the game. It was luck and your mistakes that lost you a game. Not lurking. I'm not active in this game either? I would disagree. 13 posts in the last 3 pages is inactive? And do you actually claim inactivity is a tell? Lies... misleading.. and you aren't really contributing much. You are just pointing fingers and telling people what to do. Had enough and this vote i ain't changing till the day is overVote Charter.The Mini-Theme: Lie to Me Mafia is accepting replacements. PM me to sign up.
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Stef Mafia Scum
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Yes there is debating over the fact that i have lurked. You should really check Wiki for its definition since you clearly don't know what it means. And why do you feel the need to use the word "we"? And besides.. it's clearly misleading to say that i have very few posts with any content and not a fair statement coming from you. You might consider "refusing to move votes" scummy. For me it's only natural after your scummy behavior and your approach towards this game.
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charter Beware of Dog
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GnKoichi Goon
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Charter, just a suggestion, why don't you stick to evidence within the game we're playing. Even if you convinced everyone that Stef has lurked in the past, it wouldn't make me change my mind about how he's playing this game. Just like you saying you've lied before hasn't made anyone forgive you for lying now. And to claim that certain people within this game represent "the general mafia community" and others don't is extremely elitist.
Finally, how do you justify having a scum list seven players long?---
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charter Beware of Dog
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You don't think it's relevant to know how players in this game have acted as scum recently? Really? More important than a resemblance in his playing styles, I find his reaction to my posts. He perceived it as an attack against him and promptly voted me, and really doesn't give a good reason for voting me. "You are just pointing fingers and telling people what to do." he says. Where is GK is his assessment? It is impossible to leave you, GK, out of a group that is "telling people what to do". Regardless, I don't even see how telling people what to do is scummy, it's more of the fact that he attacks only me, not everyone who does this.GnKoichi wrote:Charter, just a suggestion, why don't you stick to evidence within the game we're playing. Even if you convinced everyone that Stef has lurked in the past, it wouldn't make me change my mind about how he's playing this game. Just like you saying you've lied before hasn't made anyone forgive you for lying now. And to claim that certain people within this game represent "the general mafia community" and others don't is extremely elitist.
His reasons for voting me are not fresh, they come only after he perceives himself being attacked (or alternate theory after my wagon has gained plenty of steam and I've nearly given up anyway).
I don't get why you think I said some people in here represent the general mafia community and the rest of that. Replace 'we' in 462 with 'the general mafia community'.
You show me quotes of my posts showing where I have said I think seven different people are scum (ones where I've said later I don't think they're scum don't count either. They're obviously not on my 'scum list'.) and then I'll justify it.GK wrote:Finally, how do you justify having a scum list seven players long?-
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charter Beware of Dog
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charter wrote:Scum: GK, Kiro, animorph. SK: Kmd.
You have said that you don't think OP, Tony, and Stef are the SCUMMIEST, but your wording has described all of them as SCUMMY. You're even pursuing that argument now, trying to show how Stef is acting scummy, when he was the one who you described as LEAST scummy out of the seven.charter wrote:People I would kill tonight, in order (GK, OP, Tony)
GK's head is on so backwards, keeping him alive regardless of role will be detrimental.
OP and Tony, both lurk horribly, and are slightly more scummy than Stef in my opinion.---
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charter Beware of Dog
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