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[Klick]

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[Gamma Emerald]

Hey, Pina vote somewhere please.

Hey gamma, vote somewhere please.

Im sure BBT will vote when he gets the chance.

I am voting? wtf

[Gamma Emerald]

I ONCE AGAIN ATTEMPT TO LIVE PAST DAY 1

this would be funny to say as mafia and cakes is a funny person

VOTE: SirCakez
That did vibed a bit salty to me, I did skim that dance game that just ended

@MOD

[Klick]

Do you think this is the best I could do as scum though? Maybe not even the best given we can't always play our best, but do you think there's any scum motivation for all this then?

I'm sure you can do better regardless of your alignment.

So I dont really know Shirou

I replaced your slot here, but I guess you may not have read the game after replacing out (even though you commented in post-game?):

viewtopic.php?f=53&t=82360

Spoiler: useless trivia fact, only Norwe is obliged to read :oops:

Now that I think about it, it was the game by which I won white knight once, it's heart-warming to remember I managed to eliminate scum!FL there without turning the game into a spamfest. I had even forgot about this game until I went to look for it given I remembered I had been in a game with you (didn't rememeber I replaced you in the first place though).

Norwe, see? scum!FL was eliminated once without an entire parade for it. There's still hope for the next TM game where if he participates he'll inevitably roll scum again while our team rolls town and get at each other throats. It's becoming a painful tradition I don't wanna break.

I did keep up with the rest of this game and you were absolutely brilliant in it.

I don't think it really gave me a huge sense of you as a player though

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Alright, I can't read up on this tonight I don't think.

Who should I be voting?

[Shirou]

It's so weird how I forget important things that happened IRL but remember most of my mafia games. Maybe it's because they are relatively long? Doesn't seem like I'm the unique person like that given how you remembered so many games you weren't even in (except neighbor?).

I read this post while scrolling from the bottom and reading upwards and knew this text was a shirou post without seeing the username.

I think you are just a mafia elemental.

You are like a Blastoise saying "garsh it's easy as breathing to remember water gun which is weird in how I can't remember ember to save my life"

You are such a mafia-y person.

Even and especially in how I don't think you're a very WR person

I giggled as always reading this sort of post from you

But by WR you mean win rates yes? Yeah...as competitive as I get sometimes, I have never gone back to calculate my WRs or so, although I'm kinda curious now that you mention it, I don't think they're too good as town.

"A mafia-y" person though huh, I would be interested on knowing why if you ever felt like expanding on it. The older I get the more I think this game suits me but not quite in how I've been trying to play it so far (largely inspired by people focused on WRs tbh).

[giuseppina]

You and I both know Toto has no wagon forming and nobody is at risk right now. So vote. We can’t stay undecided forever and you can change. Otherwise it just reads as cautious idle mafia. Though Ari seems to be backing you by stating this as your standard. A bit not so great standard though me thinks.

Votes are not nearly as important as people like to believe they are

Neither is all this meta kawaii junk, but alas.

okay so you think shirou may be doing so as mafia, yes? the goal for scum!shirou i assume would be to make the game harder to read and to alienate some players?

and the rest of those involved in either the meta discussions or the ‘kawaii’ as you say are enabling shirou to do so? or do you think it is more likely a concentrated mafia effort? or?

[Klick]

i think we are similar in this way as i generally have a pretty okay memory for things i have read even though i get things jumbled a lot but i use sticky notes to remember basic things and i get lost walking routes i have done many times before

This is incredibly relatable

[Aristeia]

pace himself, conserve energy for later, figure out who is mislimmable

I feel like Shirou is drawing a lot of unnecessary attention to himself for achieving those goals

do you feel like he is not accomplishing his goals at the present?

[Gamma Emerald]

Shirou is town

I don’t like this for example.
Very early, confident, and bold claim on Shirou’s allignment. Shirou being town here suggests to me it could be pocketing attempt. Scum like to identify strong town early and townread them so they get in good relations with potential trouble later on, even if the town player in question hasn’t looked town at all yet because it’s too early in the game to tell.
I think i can be so bold to say that i’m the best player at reading Shirou here and i did not trust them by post 38 which is when you posted this.

I don't think that's the best way to play scum so I don't play that way. If I'm playing scum I try to guess whether I would be townreading someone and emulate it.
Your last sentence contradicts itself, because if you think other players understand shirou less that you should have many opportunities to watch him snow people. You're a little bit scummy because the thought process is focused on being right rather than stepping in my shoes and scum sometimes focus on who is right.

what
I don't get what you're saying here
is it like, you think norwee should be able to tell if Shirou is pocketing people by seeing interactions between Shirou and others?

[Lucian]

She's done nothing to make me townread her

And everyone else

has

done something to make you townread them? Because this doesn't make sense to me otherwise, but I also feel like this is not it.

I answered your 127 here:

I read her by seeing how much and how long I get a "???" feeling when reading her posts. Her posts have a unique style to them as either alignment, but there is a certain internal logic to them when she's town, which I find lacks when she's scum. I started the game thinking her posts were a bit of "???" but they have been getting better recently so.

And then I talked more about it with Ari and pina.

[Aristeia]

has norwee town ever caught shirou scum and gotten him limmed?

[Aubrey]

You and I both know Toto has no wagon forming and nobody is at risk right now. So vote. We can’t stay undecided forever and you can change. Otherwise it just reads as cautious idle mafia. Though Ari seems to be backing you by stating this as your standard. A bit not so great standard though me thinks.

Votes are not nearly as important as people like to believe they are

Neither is all this meta kawaii junk, but alas.

okay so you think shirou may be doing so as mafia, yes? the goal for scum!shirou i assume would be to make the game harder to read and to alienate some players?

and the rest of those involved in either the meta discussions or the ‘kawaii’ as you say are enabling shirou to do so? or do you think it is more likely a concentrated mafia effort? or?

My response is the same that I answered earlier regarding Shirou. If I was on my computer I’d link it.

Meta has little to no grounds or basis in my eyes. The only meta comment Ive taken stock in was when whoever said you typically stall on votes. Other than that, it’s been in one ear and out the other across the board.

As for kawaii, I’m just ready to off all anime girls at this point.

[petapan]

I ONCE AGAIN ATTEMPT TO LIVE PAST DAY 1

this would be funny to say as mafia and cakes is a funny person

VOTE: SirCakez
That did vibed a bit salty to me, I did skim that dance game that just ended

@MOD

fixed

[Klick]

giuseppina

Shirou

Gamma Emerald

Una

BlueBloodedToffee
SirCakez
Toto
TheGoldenParadox
Aubrey
NorwegianboyEE

Lucian
Aristeia

[Klick]

pace himself, conserve energy for later, figure out who is mislimmable

I feel like Shirou is drawing a lot of unnecessary attention to himself for achieving those goals

do you feel like he is not accomplishing his goals at the present?

I think Shirou is town and is basically doing whatever he wants here

so... no

[NorwegianboyEE]

has norwee town ever caught shirou scum and gotten him limmed?

I think the only time i got snowed by Shirou!scum was in our first game ever back in 2019 ish. Then a second game way later i suspected he was maf but then i got nightkilled day 1 and nobody limmed them.
I don’t remember if there were any other games.

[Aristeia]

ok assuming we're both town

one of us is right and one of us is wrong

probability says you will be right but i have a feeling i am right

i dont actually care about winning so i am not going to effort and persuade you because i think i would enjoy you losing to scum shirou more

[Una]

Shirou is town

I don’t like this for example.
Very early, confident, and bold claim on Shirou’s allignment. Shirou being town here suggests to me it could be pocketing attempt. Scum like to identify strong town early and townread them so they get in good relations with potential trouble later on, even if the town player in question hasn’t looked town at all yet because it’s too early in the game to tell.
I think i can be so bold to say that i’m the best player at reading Shirou here and i did not trust them by post 38 which is when you posted this.

I don't think that's the best way to play scum so I don't play that way. If I'm playing scum I try to guess whether I would be townreading someone and emulate it.
Your last sentence contradicts itself, because if you think other players understand shirou less that you should have many opportunities to watch him snow people. You're a little bit scummy because the thought process is focused on being right rather than stepping in my shoes and scum sometimes focus on who is right.

what
I don't get what you're saying here
is it like, you think norwee should be able to tell if Shirou is pocketing people by seeing interactions between Shirou and others?

Snow doesn't mean pocket. And me, not others.
He doesn't have to know for sure, but he's asserting the contrary when he seems to rule out that I could be town mistakenly granting shirou town stature for insufficient posting

[Aristeia]

VOTE: una

[giuseppina]

You and I both know Toto has no wagon forming and nobody is at risk right now. So vote. We can’t stay undecided forever and you can change. Otherwise it just reads as cautious idle mafia. Though Ari seems to be backing you by stating this as your standard. A bit not so great standard though me thinks.

Votes are not nearly as important as people like to believe they are

Neither is all this meta kawaii junk, but alas.

okay so you think shirou may be doing so as mafia, yes? the goal for scum!shirou i assume would be to make the game harder to read and to alienate some players?

and the rest of those involved in either the meta discussions or the ‘kawaii’ as you say are enabling shirou to do so? or do you think it is more likely a concentrated mafia effort? or?

My response is the same that I answered earlier regarding Shirou. If I was on my computer I’d link it.

Meta has little to no grounds or basis in my eyes. The only meta comment Ive taken stock in was when whoever said you typically stall on votes. Other than that, it’s been in one ear and out the other across the board.

As for kawaii, I’m just ready to off all anime girls at this point.

sorry i do not think i asked this well

your earlier posts re:shirou is why i ask in the first place,

i am trying to ask if from the interactions shirou is having, both about meta and ‘kawaii’ etc, does it seem more likely to be towns enabling shirou to muddy the game to you? or a more concentrated effort of shirou+ others to do so, or?

maybe i am still not asking well

[NorwegianboyEE]

Shirou is town

I don’t like this for example.
Very early, confident, and bold claim on Shirou’s allignment. Shirou being town here suggests to me it could be pocketing attempt. Scum like to identify strong town early and townread them so they get in good relations with potential trouble later on, even if the town player in question hasn’t looked town at all yet because it’s too early in the game to tell.
I think i can be so bold to say that i’m the best player at reading Shirou here and i did not trust them by post 38 which is when you posted this.

I don't think that's the best way to play scum so I don't play that way. If I'm playing scum I try to guess whether I would be townreading someone and emulate it.
Your last sentence contradicts itself, because if you think other players understand shirou less that you should have many opportunities to watch him snow people. You're a little bit scummy because the thought process is focused on being right rather than stepping in my shoes and scum sometimes focus on who is right.

what
I don't get what you're saying here
is it like, you think norwee should be able to tell if Shirou is pocketing people by seeing interactions between Shirou and others?

Snow doesn't mean pocket. And me, not others.
He doesn't have to know for sure, but he's asserting the contrary when he seems to rule out that I could be town mistakenly granting shirou town stature for insufficient posting

Did you or did you not townread them for insufficient posting?

[Aristeia]

i dont actually have any reason to think i would be better at reading shirou than any of you who all seem to have more experience with him

but it would be amusing to me if i was right and you were wrong

[Klick]

She's done nothing to make me townread her

And everyone else

has

done something to make you townread them? Because this doesn't make sense to me otherwise, but I also feel like this is not it.

For the amount of interesting content Aristeia is putting out, I am surprised that precisely none of it looks like something scum wouldn't choose to do

I answered your 127 here:

I read her by seeing how much and how long I get a "???" feeling when reading her posts. Her posts have a unique style to them as either alignment, but there is a certain internal logic to them when she's town, which I find lacks when she's scum. I started the game thinking her posts were a bit of "???" but they have been getting better recently so.

And then I talked more about it with Ari and pina.

Right, but
Why was this specifically not true for your giuseppina read at post 79, but it was specifically true at post 109? As implied by this post:

I am intrigued by both Klick's list in 79 *and* Aristeia calling it a good start in 82.

do you disagree with any of his townreads?

Yes, with all of them.

Well, I guess I am not against a pina townread by

this

point.

[Gamma Emerald]

241 seemed to be implying that I'm more likely to be mafia for not efforting. 254 had a similar vibe with the a) point of the post. I don't think that's valid to say about someone who has consistently demonstrated to be able to effort as scum. And I know pina loves meta.

I think she was expressing suspicion of the people saying that not efforting -> scum though.

hmm I think maybe it makes sense that you would respond like that to her if you actually thought she was saying something she wasn't because then it's not as much of a non sequitor,

I could also just be wrong about the sentiment she was expressing because I am not great at reading as demonstrated earlier.

maybe not suspicion but at the very least i was expressing confusion with those reads as they seemed very applicable to many players and so it is like, why did aristeia have that expectation of shirou? why did aubrey think gamma emerald should have assumed an active role and not others? which kinda ties into my being a little worried about why aubrey was bringing up that point with regards to gamma emerald at that time and such

you know what, I want to know why Aubrey thinks I'd be taking a more active solving role as well, I think my past games with him have not been the best showing of my abilities (they were both in my first year of playing I'm pretty sure) and also I just generally think the impression of me should be muddled after the amount of time we've not played a game together