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You mean this?In post 8449, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow wrote:I ALSO think that if CSF were a Lunar Guardian, it would have been a very large risk on both N1 and N3 to not target Ydrasse.
I feel as though Ydrasse is someone Lunar needed to be worried about getting shot by MathBlade particularly
CSF targeting Meuh instead of Ydrasse would leave Ydrasse vulnerable to that shot in return for saving... a townie?-
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VC 8.0.1
Firebringer (1) Dingle Dangle Scarecrow [E-3]
Not Voting (6) Magician, Firebringer, Past Present Future, T-Bone, Cat Scratch Fever, Enchant
With 7 alive it takes 4 to eliminate
Deadline (expired on 2023-01-11 13:19:33)
Last edited by MegAzumarill on Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.Imprefection is the spice of life.-
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Okay but scum projecting Ydrasse so that they would survive a dayvig would just lead to their immediate elimination. I don't think this is a good point. In this scenario you'd probably protect MMR as the stronger slot anyway.In post 8451, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow wrote:
You mean this?In post 8449, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow wrote:I ALSO think that if CSF were a Lunar Guardian, it would have been a very large risk on both N1 and N3 to not target Ydrasse.
I feel as though Ydrasse is someone Lunar needed to be worried about getting shot by MathBlade particularly
CSF targeting Meuh instead of Ydrasse would leave Ydrasse vulnerable to that shot in return for saving... a townie?-
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Seeing how people are talking about Firebringer, I figured I’d chime in and fake being productive.
I don’t like this opening? It’s technically NAI, but given how wolves are probably more likely to try alleviating their nerves by messing around at daystart or overcompensating with their posts, Frozen’s opening seems to fit the bill.In post 44, Frozen Angel wrote:
shifty is patent protected btw.In post 19, mastina wrote:
(Okay but for real, I intend to be a BEACON this game, REVEALING the TRUE COLORS of all.)In post 18, mastina wrote:REJOICE! For your SAVIOR is--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.
Hi I am a maso--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.
Hi, I am town.
Who is talia?In post 34, Yume wrote:I am Talia. Believe it or not, it's true. As true as the fact that Aegon the Conqueror had two wives.
This is fascinating though and I want to say it loud what most probably thought about too:
So it seems that Noon is the night phase for the Solar cult and the night is the night phase for the Lunar cult. In other words, based on flavor we can guess that the cults are even/off phase mechanically. But guess we'll see when we goIn post 22, MegAzumarill wrote:In post 20, furtiveglance wrote:Meg, is there any public information about Dusk/Dawn phases? Are they different?Both Dusk and Dawn function as normal Mafia game eliminations, as well as Noon and Night function as normal mafia game night phases. They are functionally identical except they are distinct.
Anyways missed you, my friends. long time no see <3 been a while since I played a game here
VOTE: BunnyonceIn post 3106, Firebringer wrote:
wait why would u guys listen to mastinaIn post 3049, unwnd wrote:I'm gonna say this in the nicest way possible
Mastina had the reins D1 and was wrong, bunnyonce was one of her scumreads
If people just let her repeat D1 I am going to afk
this is town.
mastina probably town too.
This is to the extent i scumhunt this game day.
No for memesIn post 3108, Firebringer wrote:actually mastina could be scum. Wow that would be spicy.
Contrasting Fire’s opening after replacing in, which is harder to read. I could call it opportunistic if I squint really hard, but in all honesty it doesn't really mean anything.In post 3109, Firebringer wrote:
almost makes me want to read day 1. not gonna go there.In post 3070, unwnd wrote:
I don't want anyone to necessarily pickIn post 3064, furtiveglance wrote:
Can I pick?In post 3061, unwnd wrote:I'm fine with playing along, but I'm not letting her pick the elim
But feel free to offer up some suggestions?
I am not making this day 'let's kill mastina', I am saying 'please hold mastinaaccountable'
do u want to elim mastina and think she scum or not
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This was also in order from more town to more scum btwIn post 8438, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I agree that Magician and T-Bone are not Solar. If you remove me from the Solar list because of no NK that first noon, the list of Solar is really just:
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Cat Scratch Fever she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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DDS, I might need you to hit me with your reasons why the Magician slot isn't Lunar.
What I've found so far for Not!Lunar -
The strongest point is the push on DDS Day 1, which I originally thought made them not Lunar:This was followed up with:
1395 - appeals to furtive and Bunnyonce to vote DDS
1727 - more pushing DDS
2108 - another vote on DDS (this one was nearing day end, but before Rat/mastina claimed)
Though one nugget of paranoia I have is that they don't push DDS after day 1 at all... so I'm wondering if this was a deliberately planted anti-associative.
Sure, Day 2 was the MMR/PPF 1v1 so the thread was occupied with other things. But afterward Day 2, where did that scumread on DDS go? It's unclear to me if Scarf started townreading DDS from the blessing or what; they never clarify their read on DDS.
Scarf also alternated between pushing PPF & MMR during the 1v1. I'm not going to summarize their progression, they explained most of it in 4759, which I think is believable enough.
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Junkochan associatives:
On Day... 4? (the day we limmed Porkens), we had a nice little wagon on Ydrasse going. JunkoChan's hop on and off there seemed natural to me. She was basically just following professotic's votes around-In post 6557, JunkoChan wrote:aight I'm gonna sheep proffesor
VOTE: Ydrass
I think it's the less likely role to ever be scum, and the only one besides Mathblade that's confirmed, and the only slot that cannot be converted at this point---
Also at the time I thought JunkoChan was very town, and I remember thinking scarf was town too. Magician started out strong but has fallen off more recently and ended up voting me instead of Ydrasse in the name of wagonomics which is >_> But also he defended Enchant (7668), and why would he do that unless they're scum together (which requires a 4-scum faction)? That Enchant wagon falling apart is ultimately what led to the Ydrasse lim
But overall, I think this is one of the least likely Lunar people, but not so much based on associatives so much as the strength of their own posting. I just don't think they're likely scum-
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In post 1690, Ydrasse wrote:*checks fingernails* dds could maybe be a wolf. maybe.
Also contrast Scarf's push on DDS with Ydrasse's, which was just light shading but never voting DDSIn post 1696, Ydrasse wrote:i think my main issue skimming dds is mainly like. i feel like they're projecting rlly strong stances about mastina/math but not really putting in the legwork to actualize what they care about (mastina town ie why are you not kicking and screaming more trying to dismantle this wagon yk)-
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You're almost making the case that DDS and Magician are scum together though?-
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And also my read on DDS is affected by their dayplay. They come into each day with some new analysis, and it's clear they've thought carefully about the game overnight & have done the legwork. They've also gotten more engaged in solving the game as more info becomes available, when I think scum tend to lose steam & that also seems to be consistent with Klick's townplay.-
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i mean i joined this game mid to end of day 2 so....Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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You joined during night 1In post 3002, MegAzumarill wrote:Bunnyonce was eliminated. Their role wasSpoiler:
Spoiler: Role PM
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huh.
was pretty confident i joined mid day 2.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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Right but that's what I'm saying. Why are you making the argument that the read just evaporated? What's the purpose?In post 8459, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Because Scarf's read on DDS just evaporated? I hadn't considered that possibility. But for them to be scum together, Scarf was bussing his buddy and risked losing a buddy and getting his faction vanilla-ized-
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Okay but Ydrasse was aligned with MMR. Firebringer maybe isn't??In post 8462, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Firebringer didn't really engage with MMR/PPF on day 2 at all
Neither did Ydrasse really, come to think of it
I'm just really confused why you're making relations between players we either know or suspect aren't aligned?-
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Past Present Future They/ThemMafia ScumThey/Them
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I know that’s kind of the argument Dangle’s making but Dangle was never once in any danger on d1. I would just like to really hear a lot more from Magician.In post 8459, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Because Scarf's read on DDS just evaporated? I hadn't considered that possibility. But for them to be scum together, Scarf was bussing his buddy and risked losing a buddy and getting his faction vanilla-izedIt’s the end of the world as you know it and we feel fine.
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In post 8468, T-Bone wrote:
Okay but Ydrasse was aligned with MMR. Firebringer maybe isn't??In post 8462, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Firebringer didn't really engage with MMR/PPF on day 2 at all
Neither did Ydrasse really, come to think of it
I'm just really confused why you're making relations between players we either know or suspect aren't aligned?
I just think it’s so blatantly obvious to me that FA and STD can’t be buddies. He was way too tilted at her push on him. That’s why I wrongly read Ydrasse as town because MMR’s STD defence looked like such a wk to me but what it looks like now is scum probably chainsawing. Buddies generally don’t get that extremely tilted when a buddy pushes them.It’s the end of the world as you know it and we feel fine.
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Because my original point from the previous days - "Scarf really believed and pushed DDS scum, and therefore cannot be Lunar" - takes a hitIn post 8467, T-Bone wrote:
Right but that's what I'm saying. Why are you making the argument that the read just evaporated? What's the purpose?In post 8459, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Because Scarf's read on DDS just evaporated? I hadn't considered that possibility. But for them to be scum together, Scarf was bussing his buddy and risked losing a buddy and getting his faction vanilla-ized-
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He maybe isn't but I'm not entirely sure. It's scummy to not engage with that 1v1, and this particular scumminess is more likely to come from Lunar, because if MMr is Lunar & PPF is town, why wouldn't Solar egg on this 1v1In post 8468, T-Bone wrote:
Okay but Ydrasse was aligned with MMR. Firebringer maybe isn't??In post 8462, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Firebringer didn't really engage with MMR/PPF on day 2 at all
Neither did Ydrasse really, come to think of it
I'm just really confused why you're making relations between players we either know or suspect aren't aligned?-
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I think that’s probably nia for Fire and again, I don’t believe STD gets that angry at buddy FA here, so I don’t believe Fire can be lunar, not with those FA/STD interactions.In post 8472, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
He maybe isn't but I'm not entirely sure. It's scummy to not engage with that 1v1, and this particular scumminess is more likely to come from Lunar, because if MMr is Lunar & PPF is town, why wouldn't Solar egg on this 1v1In post 8468, T-Bone wrote:
Okay but Ydrasse was aligned with MMR. Firebringer maybe isn't??In post 8462, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Firebringer didn't really engage with MMR/PPF on day 2 at all
Neither did Ydrasse really, come to think of it
I'm just really confused why you're making relations between players we either know or suspect aren't aligned?It’s the end of the world as you know it and we feel fine.
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