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flipping enchant actually sounds bad idea.
i guess i do still sort of feel midway might be scum? im not that strong on it anymoreShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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To me it's just that I think Enchant was playing irrationally either way. You can tell me "oh but it doesn't favour scum to do this" but it ultimately doesn't matter because I don't think it'd stop that from happening. The argument hinges on scum playing in a logical and good way and I don't really think that's necessarily true, especially since Cakez seemed to have emotional investment in playing the game which could also lead to irrational actions.In post 2423, UNOwen wrote:@Meuh, Gimli
I get that theoretically scum!Enchant might believe that Cakez would be a better bet to continue and refuse for that reason.
But! If we consider town reaction, when Enchant flips scum - everyone asks: "Why did scum Enchant choose to die???". That's only a defensible trade if Cakez is also scum? So I suppose the answer could be WIFOM but I think that any rational town would just ignore that and decide that the most likely answer is he wanted to save Cakez therefore Cakez is also scum.-
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igIn post 2408, UNOwen wrote:@midway - does this make sense to you?
In post 2402, UNOwen wrote:
What happens if midway accepted Enchants refusal and then he flips scum who committed suicide?In post 2400, furtiveglance wrote: Yes. And yes Enchant could be scum is what I'm saying
That seems like it would be a pretty easy deduction that he's do that to save his buddy.
though honestly, there are rarely easy deductions in mafia...
something might seem obvious from scum pov, but town can't find consensus on it
so im not sure how much that played a role in scum decision making. ill take a look back-
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i need GL to come back to our story PTShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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-k but even if scum ydrasse anticipated that, i doubt she's going to draft up a post about her post flip thoughts. It's most likely she spontaneously came up with those thoughts after seeing the flip and I think that attitude comes from town more often than notIn post 2401, UNOwen wrote:Neither of those flips were unexpected by the time they happened, they weren't close run things.
From my perspective her push post Cakez flip was Irrel, who I think is town and her push post Ari was me.
If MariaR/furtive is a T/T pair do my votes really look bad? I feel like that if I equalized the wagons it wasn't inevitable what would happen.
-fairly reasonable takes imo. u think she looked opportunistic?
-ur vote didn't have any words attached so it looks bad.-
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Ok fine, I accept that Enchant town is not as obvious as I think it should be
I still think I’m right though. If Enchant flips scum then town can at worst think that he was trying to WIFOM us into killing a T/T pair in Cakez/midway. But Enchant didn’t need to WIFOM town into doing that, he could’ve just accepted then immediately left for same result. I think we could easily figure out that the benefits were stacked on Cakez scum at that point and scum would realize that too.
Yes irrational actions, but all 4 of them not noticing the possible disaster that awaits if midway asks Cakez instead? That doesn’t seem likely.-
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what do you think of GL?In post 2430, Firebringer wrote:i need GL to come back to our story PT-
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it looked fine to me, and there's no way scum meuh puts that much effort at this stage in the gameIn post 2407, Gimli wrote:Meuh's post is way too large and what I read wasn't any good, feels like busywork to me but IDK I just got here-
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full blown NERDIn post 2435, Gimli wrote:
what do you think of GL?In post 2430, Firebringer wrote:i need GL to come back to our story PTShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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I'll trust your read againIn post 2436, midwaybear wrote:
it looked fine to me, and there's no way scum meuh puts that much effort at this stage in the gameIn post 2407, Gimli wrote:Meuh's post is way too large and what I read wasn't any good, feels like busywork to me but IDK I just got here
do we change partners next dance? I wanna dance with midwaybear, I wanna pocket them in our PT-
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I mean true but why do you think thisIn post 2436, midwaybear wrote:
it looked fine to me, and there's no way scum meuh puts that much effort at this stage in the gameIn post 2407, Gimli wrote:Meuh's post is way too large and what I read wasn't any good, feels like busywork to me but IDK I just got here-
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I'm not jealousIn post 2439, midwaybear wrote:unfortunately im already pocketed by enchant-
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Cuz I don't see what your objective is as scum in making that post. I think scum want to preserve themself or set up their buddy at this point in game (duh). But idk what that accomplishes in terms of self-pres and if you're w/w w/ furtive, I feel like a mega post explaining why he is town is not the first thing that comes up when you think of how to defend a partner.In post 2440, Meuh wrote:I mean true but why do you think this-
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i think it's towny more bc it feels like she's genuinely evaluating and isn't trying to push any narrative with itIn post 2436, midwaybear wrote:
it looked fine to me, and there's no way scum meuh puts that much effort at this stage in the gameIn post 2407, Gimli wrote:Meuh's post is way too large and what I read wasn't any good, feels like busywork to me but IDK I just got here
its a post that's fakeable as scum but it is more likely to be town imo-
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no one can be expert in meuhology. Not even MeuhIn post 2442, Meuh wrote:Are you an expert in Meuhology or smth?Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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hey do you think this spews me/std town? would cakez be randomly suspicious about two pairs that formed that contains both his team mates?In post 603, SirCakez wrote:
to be less obnoxiously vague - mainly not a fan of Drapion slot/Aristeia or StD/Irrel.In post 599, SirCakez wrote:yo all these quick pairs are sus af-
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