Gnosia Game over!

[MathBlade]

Reminder:

1. The Guardian Angel is not allowed to claim.
   Only the people on Guard Duty can claim Guard Duty.
   The Bug cannot be killed by Gnosia, however they will die if investigated by the Engineer.
   Gnosia do not have day talk.
   All character abilities are one-shot unless stated otherwise.

All Role PMs are out! Waiting for 14/15 to confirm.

(13/15)

Oh wait.
The Doctor can’t claim

Holy Shit, what if Jessica is Doctor.

I suppose that could explain their over reaction.

I remembrred this but I don't think scum does this.

I am torn on whether Drapion does that. But I think they’re probably town for other reasons. Definitely not anywhere near secret elim material.

Where’s the VCA?

I feel you’re picking me because you’re threatened by me versus an actual scumread.

[Jada]

Literally my alt slips. Where is yours? Project much?

[MathBlade]

Literally my alt slips. Where is yours? Project much?

Honey I knew you were Titus before that point I just didn’t say.

And lol your votes screamed scum and still do.

One at a time.

[Jada]

When did you know? I need to sort ego from scum.

[FakeGod]

beeboy has done nothing since replacing in. That in of itself is suspect.

By play, I believe Jessica town;
By play, I feel all of {beeboy, FakeGod, Elmo, narrow parking} are suspect.

Basically, Jessica has given reads under pressure, while being incredibly emotionally compromised. The "AtE" is nai by itself given the reason to be upset exists regardless of alignment, but her expressal of it looks town.

I've come to the conclusion Jessica Rabbit is likely town. Not not-Gnosia; likely town.

I don’t think Jessica is Gnosia.

I would prefer not to lim Jessica today.

VOTE: Elmo TeH AzN
I'd prefer this.

Ranger's hard defense of Jessica yesterday looks really bad.

It looks so bad that I question whether a scum would defend her buddy like this.

[Jada]

I had them as stubborn tbh.

[MathBlade]

Yet you vote Jada, not Rabbit who was voted by conftown.

I FoSed Math. Dude's a scripted robot.

Robot. This word is a major tell.

Almost no one uses it but we use it with each other.

[MathBlade]

Like it’s the same argument with Jessica.

Now that I know who you are I expect you to reevaluate where you went wrong. You’re just not which reeks of desperate scum.

[shiki]

beeboy has done nothing since replacing in. That in of itself is suspect.

By play, I believe Jessica town;
By play, I feel all of {beeboy, FakeGod, Elmo, narrow parking} are suspect.

Basically, Jessica has given reads under pressure, while being incredibly emotionally compromised. The "AtE" is nai by itself given the reason to be upset exists regardless of alignment, but her expressal of it looks town.

I've come to the conclusion Jessica Rabbit is likely town. Not not-Gnosia; likely town.

I don’t think Jessica is Gnosia.

I would prefer not to lim Jessica today.

VOTE: Elmo TeH AzN
I'd prefer this.

Ranger's hard defense of Jessica yesterday looks really bad.

It looks so bad that I question whether a scum would defend her buddy like this.

a traitor that scumread jessica rabbit definitely would

[MathBlade]

beeboy has done nothing since replacing in. That in of itself is suspect.

By play, I believe Jessica town;
By play, I feel all of {beeboy, FakeGod, Elmo, narrow parking} are suspect.

Basically, Jessica has given reads under pressure, while being incredibly emotionally compromised. The "AtE" is nai by itself given the reason to be upset exists regardless of alignment, but her expressal of it looks town.

I've come to the conclusion Jessica Rabbit is likely town. Not not-Gnosia; likely town.

I don’t think Jessica is Gnosia.

I would prefer not to lim Jessica today.

VOTE: Elmo TeH AzN
I'd prefer this.

Ranger's hard defense of Jessica yesterday looks really bad.

It looks so bad that I question whether a scum would defend her buddy like this.

It’s possible. With this being flipless and very few people having experience with flipless they might lean more.

What’s really shocking is Jessica outing as scum without checking if she was hammered.

[Jada]

So you voted me calling out your scripted behavior over confscum pushed by conftown and went to Jessica based on what? Oh right that I objected... You get into this pissing match. I said you were fragile and transparent, I meant it. I will not be convincing you I am town. I won't play to do such. I'll discuss reads with you.

Thoughts on Ranger and Freedom?

[MathBlade]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Jessica

Hammer post.

[Jada]

beeboy has done nothing since replacing in. That in of itself is suspect.

By play, I believe Jessica town;
By play, I feel all of {beeboy, FakeGod, Elmo, narrow parking} are suspect.

Basically, Jessica has given reads under pressure, while being incredibly emotionally compromised. The "AtE" is nai by itself given the reason to be upset exists regardless of alignment, but her expressal of it looks town.

I've come to the conclusion Jessica Rabbit is likely town. Not not-Gnosia; likely town.

I don’t think Jessica is Gnosia.

I would prefer not to lim Jessica today.

VOTE: Elmo TeH AzN
I'd prefer this.

Ranger's hard defense of Jessica yesterday looks really bad.

It looks so bad that I question whether a scum would defend her buddy like this.

a traitor that scumread jessica rabbit definitely would

Agree with this.

[MathBlade]

Not interested in MathBlade picking a fight with conftown.

VOTE: MathBlade

eh i don’t really think most of the mech stuff mathblade proposed actually makes sense

and like yeah can definitely see a potential angle to it

but also don’t really want to move wagon to a non-marashu player without marashu returning

Mech stuff that doesn't make sense is very SI for math.

Block argument

1474 looks to be after hammer.

Considering Jessica outed and NK wasn’t blocked Roden should be lock town.

Jada’s biggest concern is if Jessica is hammered likely to see if she can block.

[MathBlade]

So you voted me calling out your scripted behavior over confscum pushed by conftown and went to Jessica based on what? Oh right that I objected... You get into this pissing match. I said you were fragile and transparent, I meant it. I will not be convincing you I am town. I won't play to do such. I'll discuss reads with you.

Thoughts on Ranger and Freedom?

You asked how I knew it was you. Not sure how you got the above paragraph. I voted you because you were being scummy. My thoughts are elimming obvious scum you. There’s other possibilities but can evaluate based on their play.

We all have to agree on a scum here. If someone makes a case that’s convincing to everyone I will move there to avoid a scum controlled secret elim.

[FakeGod]

*sigh* Math/Drap, if you think Jessica's scum you're helping her appear town. She is town.

Coroner will confirm Jessica's town tmo if you manage to put her through.

I request you vote Elmo and we cop Jessica. Jessica is an asset. An empty slot makes it harder to lim scum.

Why are you tunneling [Jessica] after you beat them into obvtowning?

VOTE: Elmo

Let's vote here.

Actually, Drapion if you're a student of meta, you'd have a pretty high likelihood of Jessica being town.

I'm not voting a Nancy that takes personal offense at being scumread. That's Nancy's script for being town.

Jada looks really bad as well.

[MathBlade]

The big problem is how Jessica never attacked Jada only me when Jada was much worse about using (redacted) than me.

I think 50/50 odds I back off if Jessica attacked Jada too. But Jessica didn’t.

[Herta]

i kinda think mathblade possibly bug just from thinking about likely nightkill targets if the gnosia did target the bug but could have been a save so shrug

I agree with this as a definite plausibility, but:
-Even if true we should still focus on Gnosia today and MathBlade's certainly not Gnosia
-I still need to do my review.

Mental notes:
I maintain {shiki, Roden} town regardless; {Drapion, MathBlade} not Gnosia and not likely Traitor.
Beyond that, I'll need time to consider.

{Not Known 15, Herta}
{Enchant}
--
{Roden, Shiki}
{ProfessorDrapion, MathBlade}
(^semi-sorted)
(vcurrently unsorted)
{Jada}
{Freedom}
{beeboy, narrow parking, FakeGod, Elmo teH AzN}

I'd move shiki down a bit and fakegod up and Elmo up.

[Freedom]

Jessica was gnosia.

Good.

@mod

Votes don't count in Discussion phase, right?

[Freedom]

I hate hoods

i generally do not know how to effectively use them

Same. I kinda hoped we could wait to explain what happened though.

It also confirms Roden is not GA.

It's actually simple logic, GA would target NK15 instead and FATLY tell how he is not Guardian Angel.

Not claiming or denying GA here, but Gnosia would likely have the same idea if I'd done so. A townie who Neighborizes a Cop protected by a Doc is a pretty a clear threat.

Can I interest you in a spicy Jada wagon?

Jada is currently the most obvious vote after yesterday so yes. I read her irritation with the Jessica elim as genuine; not townie annoyance but scum annoyed that their partner got caught early and had a mis-elim slip through their fingers at the last minute. The extra "this is a mis-elim but whatever" vibes Jada tried to give off at EoD was very LAMIST.

Tomorrow we Bug hunt in case she is Gnosia, don't want to accidentally catch the scum team too early unfortunately.

I agree.
Though, if we are to confirm that she's Gnosia, Herta should survive.

[Freedom]

We still don't know what ability Jessica tried to use EOD.

Yeah and for some reason the host didn’t give me their ability like I’m suppose to have.

I thought that you claimed Universal Backup of abilities.
Are you sure that you don't inherit Town abilities as Jessica was Gnosia?

[MathBlade]

We still don't know what ability Jessica tried to use EOD.

Yeah and for some reason the host didn’t give me their ability like I’m suppose to have.

I thought that you claimed Universal Backup of abilities.
Are you sure that you don't inherit Town abilities as Jessica was Gnosia?

Could be that scum stopped it somehow?

We don’t know what scum can do.

We do know that Jessica either was a blocker or faked it. Other than that we don’t know.

[Freedom]

We still don't know what ability Jessica tried to use EOD.

Yeah and for some reason the host didn’t give me their ability like I’m suppose to have.

I thought that you claimed Universal Backup of abilities.
Are you sure that you don't inherit Town abilities as Jessica was Gnosia?

Could be that scum stopped it somehow?

We don’t know what scum can do.

We do know that Jessica either was a blocker or faked it. Other than that we don’t know.

I see.
Though, I thought that Universal Backup, by default, only inherits from allies and if that is how Drap's ability works, Jessica is 200% confscum as it means that 2 players can confirm that to be true.

[MathBlade]

We still don't know what ability Jessica tried to use EOD.

Yeah and for some reason the host didn’t give me their ability like I’m suppose to have.

I thought that you claimed Universal Backup of abilities.
Are you sure that you don't inherit Town abilities as Jessica was Gnosia?

Could be that scum stopped it somehow?

We don’t know what scum can do.

We do know that Jessica either was a blocker or faked it. Other than that we don’t know.

I see.
Though, I thought that Universal Backup, by default, only inherits from allies and if that is how Drap's ability works, Jessica is 200% confscum as it means that 2 players can confirm that to be true.

Yep. Agreed

I am on phone and it’s hard to look back.

Assuming that’s what is claimed yeah Jessica was scum.

That would also explain the block explanation after hammer. If Prof Drapion is town that’d be revealed.

[Freedom]

I reread Mara/Drap's claims.
It seems that I misunderstood their claim as both of them claimed that they receive the first character ability but did not mention if it had to be an ally or not.