Gnosia Game over!

[shiki]

unless mathblade meant sus as in ‘not useful’ in which case sure potentially

pedit: @enchant i kinda think mathblade possibly bug just from thinking about likely nightkill targets if the gnosia did target the bug but could have been a save so shrug

If it helps you sort me go ahead and slot me there.

It’s wrong but I am a spent VT and no boost received as I asked to not happen. *shrug*

It’s about building a block people trust and I figure I should be in it, but if not that’s okay.

i trust that you are not gnosia, just hard for me to weigh bug likelihood and based on your interaction with jessica rabbit and outcome of day it seemed possible to me that you would be a somewhat likely nightkill target and thus possibly bug

but too many factors for me to try to quantify the likelihood or anything

Understandable but me bug requires me to want to survive. The last thing I would want is Gnosia’s attention or the engineer’s.

I was more being transparent I didn’t get told an ability refreshed in case you were faking your sus on me for that.

If you have genuine sus let’s talk it out.

i have not used my ability if that’s what the second line is referring to

the possibility and relative likelihood that you were targeted by the gnosia is the main extent of my worry with regards to you; like heading into the night i was pretty certain you were not gnosia and remain so it’s just the bug possibility yeah

[MathBlade]

unless mathblade meant sus as in ‘not useful’ in which case sure potentially

pedit: @enchant i kinda think mathblade possibly bug just from thinking about likely nightkill targets if the gnosia did target the bug but could have been a save so shrug

If it helps you sort me go ahead and slot me there.

It’s wrong but I am a spent VT and no boost received as I asked to not happen. *shrug*

It’s about building a block people trust and I figure I should be in it, but if not that’s okay.

i trust that you are not gnosia, just hard for me to weigh bug likelihood and based on your interaction with jessica rabbit and outcome of day it seemed possible to me that you would be a somewhat likely nightkill target and thus possibly bug

but too many factors for me to try to quantify the likelihood or anything

Understandable but me bug requires me to want to survive. The last thing I would want is Gnosia’s attention or the engineer’s.

I was more being transparent I didn’t get told an ability refreshed in case you were faking your sus on me for that.

If you have genuine sus let’s talk it out.

i have not used my ability if that’s what the second line is referring to

the possibility and relative likelihood that you were targeted by the gnosia is the main extent of my worry with regards to you; like heading into the night i was pretty certain you were not gnosia and remain so it’s just the bug possibility yeah

I find it unlikely I would be a target if we are dealing with good scum. However for me to refute your argument means I have to tell scum how to be better. Which is well kinda silly for obvious reasons. If I was scum I would have shot (redacted). Scum shooting a spent role would be rather ???.

[MathBlade]

I mean Jessica did decide to post that weird block message rather than keep suspicion she was town alive.

Before that post some players town read her. So that block was extremely important.

[shiki]

Officially that’s the only confirm.

not known 15 has a green check on enchant

so if not known 15 confirmed so is enchant

enchant could still be the traitor but eh

irrelevant mostly - doesn’t count towards win condition et cetera

so all traitor!enchant could really do is mislead us and it’s not like we aren’t going to weigh what enchant is saying anyway

and the traitor thing doesn’t seem super likely regardless

[Enchant]

so all traitor!enchant could really do is mislead us and it’s not like we aren’t going to weigh what enchant is saying anyway

[MathBlade]

Officially that’s the only confirm.

not known 15 has a green check on enchant

so if not known 15 confirmed so is enchant

enchant could still be the traitor but eh

irrelevant mostly - doesn’t count towards win condition et cetera

so all traitor!enchant could really do is mislead us and it’s not like we aren’t going to weigh what enchant is saying anyway

and the traitor thing doesn’t seem super likely regardless

I thought NK15 acted at night? Where is this green check so I can fix my notes?

[Enchant]

I can answer FakeGod question btw. But would be better to aim it at actual traitor.

[shiki]

I mean Jessica did decide to post that weird block message rather than keep suspicion she was town alive.

Before that post some players town read her. So that block was extremely important.

hm, do you think jessica rabbit was trying to frame the folks townreading her?

or just get potential value out of ability? (which idk if actually real - no effect on me that i can tell but dunno and dunno if not known 15 effected et cetera)

jada maintaining a townread on jessica rabbit even after block argument post still so strange to me

[shiki]

Officially that’s the only confirm.

not known 15 has a green check on enchant

so if not known 15 confirmed so is enchant

enchant could still be the traitor but eh

irrelevant mostly - doesn’t count towards win condition et cetera

so all traitor!enchant could really do is mislead us and it’s not like we aren’t going to weigh what enchant is saying anyway

and the traitor thing doesn’t seem super likely regardless

I thought NK15 acted at night? Where is this green check so I can fix my notes?

I am roleblocked for tomorrow.... and Enchant is town.

[MathBlade]

I mean Jessica did decide to post that weird block message rather than keep suspicion she was town alive.

Before that post some players town read her. So that block was extremely important.

hm, do you think jessica rabbit was trying to frame the folks townreading her?

or just get potential value out of ability? (which idk if actually real - no effect on me that i can tell but dunno and dunno if not known 15 effected et cetera)

jada maintaining a townread on jessica rabbit even after block argument post still so strange to me

I think she’d have to get something out of it.

The main value for scum is that town doesn’t know the alignments of flipped people. Scum lost a lot with that which leads me to think that Jessica’s post was a defensive move to give Jada plausible deniability

[MathBlade]

Officially that’s the only confirm.

not known 15 has a green check on enchant

so if not known 15 confirmed so is enchant

enchant could still be the traitor but eh

irrelevant mostly - doesn’t count towards win condition et cetera

so all traitor!enchant could really do is mislead us and it’s not like we aren’t going to weigh what enchant is saying anyway

and the traitor thing doesn’t seem super likely regardless

I thought NK15 acted at night? Where is this green check so I can fix my notes?

I am roleblocked for tomorrow.... and Enchant is town.

Thanks!

I think that was a waste of a check but okay

[Enchant]

It was waste of check

[shiki]

so all traitor!enchant could really do is mislead us and it’s not like we aren’t going to weigh what enchant is saying anyway

unsure what this emoji means but i was not saying we should ignore you or anything simply that we are going to weigh what you’re saying rather than simply accepting it anyway

but also for a traitor to mislead us they would have to have accurate reads since no info of gnosia (though they would not post their actual reads of course)

[MathBlade]

So facts are
NK15 is cop
Herta is coroner. Jessica was scum.
Enchant is not gnosia (can be traitor)

Mechanically there’s a strong argument for Enchant traitor Shiki scum but I don’t believe that so I am not sharing it. If I do believe it or am asked, I will share it.

[Roden]

I hate hoods

i generally do not know how to effectively use them

Same. I kinda hoped we could wait to explain what happened though.

It also confirms Roden is not GA.

It's actually simple logic, GA would target NK15 instead and FATLY tell how he is not Guardian Angel.

Not claiming or denying GA here, but Gnosia would likely have the same idea if I'd done so. A townie who Neighborizes a Cop protected by a Doc is a pretty a clear threat.

[Enchant]

Actually Fair.

[MathBlade]

I hate hoods

i generally do not know how to effectively use them

Same. I kinda hoped we could wait to explain what happened though.

It also confirms Roden is not GA.

It's actually simple logic, GA would target NK15 instead and FATLY tell how he is not Guardian Angel.

Not claiming or denying GA here, but Gnosia would likely have the same idea if I'd done so. A townie who Neighborizes a Cop protected by a Doc is a pretty a clear threat.

Can I interest you in a spicy Jada wagon?

[Enchant]

There's no wagons anymore.

Now it's trashtalk phase. After this ends, we have 2 days to vote. Privately.


So yeah.

[MathBlade]

There's no wagons anymore.

Now it's trashtalk phase. After this ends, we have 2 days to vote. Privately.


So yeah.

Mechanically yes, but unless we collaborate scum can vote dump someone.

So we need to use these days to create wagons and talk

[Enchant]

Cool.

Can we wagon Narrow Parking

[MathBlade]

Cool.

Can we wagon Narrow Parking

Make a case, I think Jada is better.

If narrow is better we can go there

[Roden]

I hate hoods

i generally do not know how to effectively use them

Same. I kinda hoped we could wait to explain what happened though.

It also confirms Roden is not GA.

It's actually simple logic, GA would target NK15 instead and FATLY tell how he is not Guardian Angel.

Not claiming or denying GA here, but Gnosia would likely have the same idea if I'd done so. A townie who Neighborizes a Cop protected by a Doc is a pretty a clear threat.

Can I interest you in a spicy Jada wagon?

Jada is currently the most obvious vote after yesterday so yes. I read her irritation with the Jessica elim as genuine; not townie annoyance but scum annoyed that their partner got caught early and had a mis-elim slip through their fingers at the last minute. The extra "this is a mis-elim but whatever" vibes Jada tried to give off at EoD was very LAMIST.

Tomorrow we Bug hunt in case she is Gnosia, don't want to accidentally catch the scum team too early unfortunately.

[Enchant]

Cool.

Can we wagon Narrow Parking

Make a case, I think Jada is better.

If narrow is better we can go there

he evil


done

[MathBlade]

Cool.

Can we wagon Narrow Parking

Make a case, I think Jada is better.

If narrow is better we can go there

he evil


done

You’re kinda making me think you traitor isn’t as bad.

I gotta go but this is :/

[Roden]

So facts are
NK15 is cop
Herta is coroner. Jessica was scum.
Enchant is not gnosia (can be traitor)

Mechanically there’s a strong argument for Enchant traitor Shiki scum but I don’t believe that so I am not sharing it. If I do believe it or am asked, I will share it.

Hard disagree that Shiki is scum here. Unless the team is exactly Jessica/Shiki/Elmo slot, there's no reason Shiki would have pushed Jessica over Elmo.