I'm taking crap attacks left and right...ShadowGirl wrote:They seemed in a rush to save Caboose.lord_hur wrote:Wary ? Why ?ShadowGirl wrote:Save lord_hur.
Since I'm now wary of both Sekinj and KoC.
Mind explaining this one?
Crap attack ? I'm not so sure... SG's accusation rang a bell, and made me reread Empking's lynch. KoC and sekinj attacked him one right after the other, the third attacker (after me) being none other than Caboose...Caboose wrote:I want something more than a crap attack.ShadowGirl wrote:It's a gut feeling. It just seemed like it was rushed. What more do you wan?
I think saying that I've been "convinced by her vibes" is a bit abusive. I think I've added a sizable element, which originated in my own reflexions. Thus I claim this idea as mine (not that it's a big thing...).sekinj wrote:LH - you are being blown around by every idea that comes across. How can you possibly be convinced by SG's vibes when you earlier stated that I can't even tell you my personal motives for a vote because they can't be proven?
lord_hur wrote:Crap attack ? I'm not so sure... SG's accusation rang a bell, and made me reread Empking's lynch. KoC and sekinj attacked him one right after the other, the third attacker (after me) being none other than Caboose...Caboose wrote:I want something more than a crap attack.ShadowGirl wrote:It's a gut feeling. It just seemed like it was rushed. What more do you wan?
I know, Empking was obvious scum and all that, but this is quite a coincidence, don't you think ?
Damn, and these 3 were my top pro-town choices... Voting will be tough, today...
lord_hur meant to write wrote:Crap attack ? I'm not so sure... SG's accusation rang a bell, and made me reread Empking's lynchCaboose wrote:I want something more than a crap attack.ShadowGirl wrote:It's a gut feeling. It just seemed like it was rushed. What more do you wan?in hopes that I can fling around some unfounded suspicions at some people on his wagon. KoC and sekinj attacked him one right after the other, the third attacker (after me) being none other than Caboose...Hopefully nobody recognizes the fact that being on a townie wagon is not a scumtell and that I'm using crap logic to try to cast some suspicion onto Caboose and sekinj to get people to second guess themselves.
I know, Empking was obvious scum andCaboose had a good reason for attacking Empking, but this is quite away to get people to ignore Caboose thinking that he's obvscum, don't you think ?
Damn, andCaboose already got cleared so we don't get to mislynch him. I guess we can still go after sekinj. Getting a mislynchwill be tough, today...
I would think that two votes three hours from apart would be rather quick. That's all I am saying.SG - If there are player that most of the town feels are pro-town, then there is no reason not to vote them safe. This isn't regualr voting/lynching. These small session ARE going to go much faster than a whole day. PLus, yes, it is going to seem like a quick save to you when you don't have the time to check in frequently and make all these big posts you are promising. I think you are just trying to throw doubt around and confuse the town. PLease make a case if youhave one.
Unfounded suspicions ? Are you claiming that you know they are unfounded ? Anyway, this is a crap attack.Caboose wrote:in hopes that I can fling around some unfounded suspicions at some people on his wagon
This is your opinion. Unless you can prove me that it is a widely accepted opinion, then it can be a proper defense.Caboose wrote:Hopefully nobody recognizes the fact that being on a townie wagon is not a scumtell
Crap logic is logical fallacy. I showed a fact, nothing more.Caboose wrote:and that I'm using crap logic to try to cast some suspicion onto Caboose and sekinj to get people to second guess themselves.[/color]
This is the only thing making sense, and should have constituted your only defense. What was this reason ?Caboose wrote:Caboose had a good reason for attacking Empking
Since it seems you need to learn what crap attack is, this is it. An attack not based on any fact or reasoning.Caboose wrote:Caboose already got cleared so we don't get to mislynch him. I guess we can still go after sekinj. Getting a mislynchwill be tough, today...
Being on a townie wagon=/=scumtellUnfounded suspicions ? Are you claiming that you know they are unfounded ? Anyway, this is a crap attack.
It's my opinion that I've formed through experience. Do you have an alternate one? If so, please share.This is your opinion. Unless you can prove me that it is a widely accepted opinion, then it can be a proper defense.
You showed a fact that was setting me up to be attacked.Crap logic is logical fallacy. I showed a fact, nothing more.
Lurking, the self survival comment, which I find to be legitimately scummy.This is the only thing making sense, and should have constituted your only defense. What was this reason ?
I find that people who make crap attacks often flip scum. So no, my attack is not a crap attack but I point out that SG, SSK, and you are trying to attack me for something that's not a scumtell or not even scummy.Since it seems you need to learn what crap attack is, this is it. An attack not based on any fact or reasoning.
If sekinj is scum, then she's playing a really good game right now because I don't see anything scummy about her play. KoC, on the other hand, has made some scummy moves Day 1, which includes attacking me for something not scummy.Why are you only talking about sekinj, and not KoC ? Because he is the only one you have to defend ?
What do you want me to say? When I'm being attacked for something that's not a scumtell it makes me mad.Caboose, why do you seem so hostile?
And this is crap logic / logical fallacy : using mere opinion for established fact to make a point.Caboose wrote:Being on a townie wagon=/=scumtellUnfounded suspicions ? Are you claiming that you know they are unfounded ? Anyway, this is a crap attack.
The foundation to your argument just vanished.
I find rushed votes significantly more scummy. Especially when repeatedly done, *and* with the same persons, since scum tend instinctively to coordinate their attacks.Caboose wrote:It's my opinion that I've formed through experience. Do you have an alternate one? If so, please share.This is your opinion. Unless you can prove me that it is a widely accepted opinion, then it can be a proper defense.
Again, your opinion. And since you appear to be anything but flexible, this means that all attacks against you are scummy.Caboose wrote:I find that people who make crap attacks often flip scum. So no, my attack is not a crap attack but I point out that SG, SSK, and you are trying to attack me for something that's not a scumtell or not even scummy.Since it seems you need to learn what crap attack is, this is it. An attack not based on any fact or reasoning.
Ah ok, sekinj is not scummy because she is the only one who didn't attack you. You should have said that right from the start.Caboose wrote:If sekinj is scum, then she's playing a really good game right now because I don't see anything scummy about her play. KoC, on the other hand, has made some scummy moves Day 1, which includes attacking me for something not scummy.Why are you only talking about sekinj, and not KoC ? Because he is the only one you have to defend ?
I agree. good postRestFermata wrote:Vote: Caboose
I feel strongly that Caboose is town, especially from what I saw of him D1. I'm pretty confident that his ideas have been genuine.
good explanation of thoughts. critical, but not overly.RestFermata wrote:I believe that Caboose is town because he was the first to come up with a plan that involved town participation D1. He definitely got under fire for it from KoC, but I thought it was a pro-town plan:
sekinj's plan wasn't actually that different in effect, even though the process was different. But I am voting Caboose because he was theCaboose wrote:We each pick a person that we would kill if elected executioner. Once we have everyone covered (everyone's got somebody that would kill them), then we play like a regular mafia game. Instead of voting for the person we want to lynch, we vote for the executioner who would kill that person.firstto take the initiative to come up with a plan. That makes him look town in my eyes, and he hasn't done anything to convince me otherwise. His contributions have all made sense and seemed genuine. I agree with his attack on MafiaSSK (I haven't said much about who I find scummy, if anything, but that is a bad habit of mine and I'll try to discuss it more from now on) and I didn't find his attack on Empking to be scummy.
again, calling some players out on things, but agreeing with others. Giving people a chance to explain themsevles, while still being firm in her opinions.RestFermata wrote:I don't like how KoC said he was happy to put Caboose and sekinj in "for now"...as if he has reservations about it. News flash, KoC. You can't take it back later. And if we save the wrong person, it's over. So I think you should be pretty damn sure.
Town loses when all 3 scum are voted, not when the first one is. Caboose can still be scum.RestFermata wrote:I don't understand lord_hur's continued accusation of Caboose. How can he continue to attack Caboose now that he is cleared as town? If Caboose was mafia, the game would be over. We've entered the next voting stage, so he needs to lose the tunnel vision and look for other pairs.