Battle Mage wrote:I dont really see your issue here. Certainly nothing that would warrant a 'hardcore FoS' (damn, dont see those words together often enough!)
Ftr, i was responding to a joke by DGB, in a similarly jokey fashion. I fail to see how you could be suspicious on me because i claimed scum in a really WIFOMy way.
Unvote, Vote: Destructor
That's a BS reason for voting. Not realizing something is a joke or not appreciating jokes about who your scumbuddy is is in no way a scummy thing.
He tried to place suspicion on me because of something that didnt warrant it. If my reason is BS, it's because it's a direct response to the original BS-which was his, btw.
Battle Mage wrote:
He tried to place suspicion on me because of something that didnt warrant it. If my reason is BS, it's because it's a direct response to the original BS-which was his, btw.
BM
Well, if he didn't realize it was a joke in the first place, I don't see how it's BS.
BM wrote:It's a vote which doesnt affiliate me to anyone directly, but indirectly is far more useful than a random vote.
So you voted yourself so that you aren't connected with anyone, am I correct? If so, explain why you should be bothered with being connected with anyone.
Kind of. The point was, a vote which doesnt directly connect you to anyone, DOES in fact connect you to people, when they respond to what is seen as a controversial thing. That's just how i roll.
Zazier wrote:Perhaps offtopic, but I've seen Twito now several times.
*shrug*
I thought he was banned?
Zazier wrote:
Korts wrote:Quick, everyone start spamming! My goal is page forty by the time BM returns
But that would have resulted into a 40-page game read for me and some others as well. You're mean.
Yeh, he's a mean MEAN scumbag alright!
Unvote, Vote: Korts
Let's burn him!
Zazier wrote:
Des wrote:This is the first FOS I've pointed in about 12 months. Consider it seriously hardcore.
. You're a goner now BM as Des gave you... a FoS.
*screams*
Damnit you're right!
Consider it my last will and testament that you string up that dirty scumbag
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Zazier wrote:
Kison wrote:Why do you FoS Battle Mage for this comment, but not FoS me for this one
Battle Mage wrote:
He tried to place suspicion on me because of something that didnt warrant it. If my reason is BS, it's because it's a direct response to the original BS-which was his, btw.
BM
Well, if he didn't realize it was a joke in the first place, I don't see how it's BS.
How the hell could he not realise it was a joke? You have to be kidding me!
Also, would you mind not selectively quoting? It's not necessary atm, and makes me do more reading than i want to.
Battle Mage wrote:
He tried to place suspicion on me because of something that didnt warrant it. If my reason is BS, it's because it's a direct response to the original BS-which was his, btw.
BM
Well, if he didn't realize it was a joke in the first place, I don't see how it's BS.
How the hell could he not realise it was a joke? You have to be kidding me!
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I just don't see it as an action that inherently benefits scum and makes sense only from that viewpoint.
BM wrote:Also, would you mind not selectively quoting? It's not necessary atm, and makes me do more reading than i want to.
BM
Sure. It's just that we had a lot of fun in previous games with the super-sized quote pyramids.
Battle Mage wrote:
He tried to place suspicion on me because of something that didnt warrant it. If my reason is BS, it's because it's a direct response to the original BS-which was his, btw.
BM
Well, if he didn't realize it was a joke in the first place, I don't see how it's BS.
How the hell could he not realise it was a joke? You have to be kidding me!
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I just don't see it as an action that inherently benefits scum and makes sense only from that viewpoint.
Well, you should bear in mind, the random stage isn't really over yet. I dont think everybody has confirmed-certainly not all have made themselves present. That said, spreading bs is scummy.
Battle Mage wrote:Ftr, i was responding to a joke by DGB, in a similarly jokey fashion. I fail to see how you could be suspicious on me because i claimed scum in a really WIFOMy way.
Unvote, Vote: Destructor
Mark my words.
CKD is scum, period.
Kison is scum for persecuting roflcopter.
BM is scum for going after destructor.
So many great choices already!
Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
"Metadiving DGB is like playing Roblox" - T3
"She's sort of like a quantum computer, her reads exist in multiple states at once. u have to take into account the other dimensions." - Morning Tweet
Also, Korts is town. May I be immediately struck by lightning if I'm wrong.
***if this post goes through we have proof***
Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
"Metadiving DGB is like playing Roblox" - T3
"She's sort of like a quantum computer, her reads exist in multiple states at once. u have to take into account the other dimensions." - Morning Tweet
Not defending ckd so much as I agree with his reasoning.
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vollkan wrote:This game looks set to be great. The list of players is absolutely brilliant.
Raging Rabbit wrote: Doesn't yield the same sort of information, and from my experience the discussion it creates revolves strictly around theory and meta and doesn't have much to do with the game. I'm not letting this deteriorate into a Twito discussion, you can keep crying your eyes out as far as I'm concerned. Also, you're buddying up to midgets.
Vote: Vollkan
Four questions:
1) What "sort of information" does a non-self random vote yield?
2) Can you see any inherent game value in having a theory debate early on?
3) Based on your answers to 1) and 2), do you think self-voting in the random stage can be a reasonable course of conduct?
4) Was your post that I quote above at all influenced by meta actions of myself?
1. I'm not exactly a fan of random votes, but they do form a sort of connection that can be analayzed later.
2. It's something to talk about and could lead to more game-related talk, other than that not really.
3. A better course of action which I sometimes use would be to just not vote and wait for something at least somewhat substantial; but I can't say selfvoting is that unreasonable, and clearly it's not a scumtell or any kind of a tell at all once it becomes a person's meta.
4. Nope. You always selfvote, I take it?
Other than that, Korts is giving me a very bad vibe for some reason and BM is giving me a headache and making the noise ratio way too high. Will try to read more into this later.
Zazier -- answering questions posed at others is not a reliable scum tell. It is unhelpful, but not scummy, because lots of people naturally do this. I used to think it was a scum tell because most unhelpful things are scummy and vice versa, but this one seems to not be.. Defending others surreptitiously by answering tough questions posed to them is scummy however, if you think any of the instances you brought up fall into that let me know.
I am very unconvinced by the case on CKD, and mention this because I think it is mostly wasting our time :(. Is the case anything more than him having a strong gut read early in the game, and saying so? If it is please enlighten me. If not, please move on.
BM, why do you think DGB will be unreadable? Why are you continuing to promote this meta of vote hopping if it is a scummy meta? Scummy things are generally scummy because they are unhelpful to town -- if you acknowledge that constantly moving your votes is scummy, e.g. unhelpful, why continue to do so?
Self voting is scummy -- it robs town of information. I am disappointed in vollkan especially for this -- I've always looked at his play as logical and very helpful to town. I find his choice to self vote and rob the town of information suspicious and out of character, especially considering I think that others self-voting probably impacted his decision to do so.
DGB, you seem to have said that at least half the players are either obviously town or obviously scum. Please list all the players with your current thoughts on them, and a short explanation of why you think this way.
This is supposed to be such a stellar cast -- we seem to have largely spam'd/noise'd our way to page 8 in two days. Short page lengths are better for towns -- in reality, people are not going to re-read 40 page day ones as well as they read 15 page day ones.
Please cut out the garbage -- it is unhelpful and suspcious. Posting a lot of nothing can make you look like you are scum hunting, being active, thinking about the game, etc. when you aren't.
I am especially annoyed with BM and rofl for this, off the top of my head. BM you need to re-read the thread and come up with something logical, and stop the knee-jerk voting reactions that seem to come three times a page.
rofl, when asked a question that you see that you are being asked, either refuse to answer it and move on (worse option), or answer it immediately (better option). Don't draw it out over a dozen posts where you get into a debate with others where you explain why you are refusing when you could just answer (worst option, one that you chose).
Do not lynch me.
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guardian wrote:I am very unconvinced by the case on CKD, and mention this because I think it is mostly wasting our time . Is the case anything more than him having a strong gut read early in the game, and saying so? If it is please enlighten me. If not, please move on.
if this is all you think the case on ckd is, you obviously didn't actually bother to read my posts. please do so before you accuse me of contributing garbage.
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Ok yeah off the top of my head you think that he doesn't like people clearing other players, and you think that he "knows" you are "buddying up" to des... I still think both those points are weak. Was there more?
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Guardian wrote:Zazier -- answering questions posed at others is not a reliable scum tell. It is unhelpful, but not scummy, because lots of people naturally do this. I used to think it was a scum tell because most unhelpful things are scummy and vice versa, but this one seems to not be.. Defending others surreptitiously by answering tough questions posed to them is scummy however, if you think any of the instances you brought up fall into that let me know.
Guardian, I put a ';)' afterwards. And I stated that my vote and my FoSes (of which one was incorrect as Vollkan didn't have to answer any question at all
. You're a goner now BM as Des gave you... a FoS.
. Is the case anything more than him having a strong gut read early in the game, and saying so? If it is please enlighten me. If not, please move on. 
) weren't serious.