1. roflcopter
2. Yosarian2
3. Raging Rabbit
4. Kison
You are the four I've never played with before.rofl wrote:i'm on that shortlist why?
more interestingly, yosarian is on that list why?
curiouskarmadog wrote:nice Des has his cool avatar back
These are both entirely true.DrippingGoofball wrote:Destructor is 100% town.
Ok, I can believe that.rofl wrote:cause yos hadn't even posted yet.
Wutrofl wrote:not particularly
If ckd is scum, is his vote still random?ckd wrote:At this moment, I don't see anything in particular that interests me in a scumhunting sense.
CKD's was a random vote, and he found a slightly better place for it. I don't see anything with it. Why bring that up in particular?
What about you? Anything of interest to you?
What's with the WIFOM?Battle Mage, Post 46 wrote:Damn. Well, at least you'll never find out who my other buddy is!DrippingGoofball wrote:Good catch, but I'm already voting for his buddy, Kison.Korts wrote:unvote, vote: BM
For two consecutive posts without a vote. Shame on you.
*cough*Sensfan*cough*
BM
EBWOP: this was Korts, not ckd.destructor wrote:ckd wrote:At this moment, I don't see anything in particular that interests me in a scumhunting sense.
CKD's was a random vote, and he found a slightly better place for it. I don't see anything with it. Why bring that up in particular?
What about you? Anything of interest to you?
Well, if Korts is scum, he could call your vote random with more confidence.curiouskarmadog wrote:and Des, Korts was a random vote...this one, not so much...seems like a silly question.
Acting and being are kind of mutually exclusive. So far as I can tell, we can't say what someone "is" without extra role-based info, but we can comment on how they act.ckd wrote:Des question for you...what do you think the difference is between "acting" protown and "being" protown? Do you understand whay he is saying?...What do you think you have done that deems you "being" protown versus just "acting" so? These are his terms not mine....curious if you have a clue...
Whether this is what's happening here or not, if you swap bussing with distancing, what DGB says has merit. A Mafiate can die and still win. SKs need to stay alive, so implying that you're willing to be lynched is alluding to not having survival in your win condition.vollkan wrote:I'd strongly encourage any SK/s to adopt this excellent strategy.DGB wrote: Also, it's self-bus'ing. I mean, he can only bus himself. He's doing it to get town cred in case he goes down in flames.
I think it's an unreasonably reachy argument. There is no reason arguments and cases have to be weak just because it's early in the game. What you're doing isn't even prodding and probing.ckd wrote:and Des, you are voting me why?..becauase you think it is noise?
I don't buy this. It's like you're saying you're only testing the waters. Here are some quotes:These all sound like you're definitely accusing rofl of being scum, more than just sniffing around.ckd wrote:I stated several times it wasnt a case...I am not trying to parade it as anything else
What do you make of Korts' contributions before page 5?ckd wrote:it looks like someone trying to LOOK like they are doing something without really doing anything.
He said he'd answer them after vollkan replied. Generally speaking, what was wrong with that? Did you think he wouldn't?Korts wrote:I like my questions answered. Avoidance of them, however minor or pointless they seem to be, is a scumtell and is done for a reason, therefore the more they're avoided, the more I want them answered.
The Korts-ckd connection became more evident when Korts talked about ckd's motives with so much confidence (Post 161). He describes ckd's case on rofl as OMGUS, ignoring the fact that ckd voted rofl before this could have been a factor. Why isn't Korts questioning the legitimacy of ckd's reasoning prior to his exchange with rofl? I think it's because he's scum trying to slow his buddy's wagon down, or possibly scum who knows ckd is town.Guardian wrote:Posting a lot of nothing can make you look like you are scum hunting, being active, thinking about the game, etc. when you aren't.
Are you concerned about ckd at all? You said you didn't agree with much else he said. What do you think of Korts?Kison wrote:I disagree; I'm not defending CKD, but rather one of his arguments. Why? Because I think the argument in question is valid.
des wrote:Does my case on Korts interest you? What about his connection to ckd?
Yep.Korts, Post 225 wrote:des, are you accusing me of not scumhunting?
You're calling his second vote (for rofl) random now, but you didn't at the time. I was calling into question the fact that you seemed to think the best of his votes. You didn't consider that ckd could be scum.Korts wrote:des wrote:The Korts-ckd connection became more evident when Korts talked about ckd's motives with so much confidenceIs this me talking about motives "with so much confidence"? Cos it was you that implied that CKD's second vote was pretty much another vote without real reason (i.e. a second random vote). I don't know why CKD decided his vote on me was lacking. The fact that I didn't do much constructive posting up 'til then does make his unvote raise my eyebrow, looking at it now, but I fail to see that as an associative tell (I would say that, though, wouldn't I).Korts, in referenced post wrote:I still don't see how that's particularly scummy, placing multiple random votes.des wrote:Korts, If ckd is scum he's going to be conscious of whether or not he's voting for someone who's on his team. He unvoted you and moved to rofl without giving much more reason than his first vote.
I'm not interested in beating a dead horse, but you didn't make a note of this earlier. Your comments about ckd seemed to default to ckd-town. I think that's suspicious.Korts wrote:Because "gut" is an acceptable though not very helpful reason for an early game state, while BS is always invalid.des wrote:Why isn't Korts questioning the legitimacy of ckd's reasoning prior to his exchange with rofl?
You've said your vote-hopping has a pro-town function (I think it's inefficient and limited, but that's probably not worth discussing anymore). What was the pro-town function of WIFOM'ing us?Battle Mage wrote:He was a name i could remember was in the game, that i hadnt mentioned yet? I dont know. It's called the RANDOM voting stage for a reason.destructor wrote:BM, I know you said it jokingly. I'm repeating myself here. You got the FOS for implicating Sens. Kison played along with DBG based on interaction that already existed. You specifically bought SensFan into it for no reason I can understand. What was the point of that?
You definitely didn't. You on ckd:BM wrote:@Kison-ive already explained my stance on CKD at least twice.
@Des- same applies to you. It'd be nice if you read some of my posts, before asking me questions that i've already answered.
BM, Post 28 wrote:I'm pretty sure you're town at this point.
BM, Post 157 wrote:But i have a town read on him based on a meta i can't reference, so it isn't of great value to the game at this point.
A strong town read based on a meta that you can't reference is BS. And you're comfortable to say this by Post 28?BM, Post 171 wrote:This is actually a very good point. If DGB wasnt a professional bser, and CKD strongly protown, i might be tempted to follow you.
are poor examples of teamwork.BM wrote:And ftr, my votes do mean whatever i want them to, TO ME. Why would i care what significance you place upon my votes?
What do you think now?Kison wrote:Someone asked me what I think of the furious karma dog. As I said, I agree with his point about clearing Destructor so early without being able to point out why, but disagree with most everything else he used as a basis for switching his vote. However, whether or not his switch of a vote indicates a link between him and Korts, I do not know. I'm going to go back and look over the whole ordeal right now and will post back shortly.
Why'd you tick Kison?Elmo, Post 260 wrote:roflcopter wrote:scum list:
ckd ✔
guardianX
elmoX
bm?X
kison? ✔
korts? ✔
sensfan? ✔
I could have left you at L-1. I don't see what's wrong with me changing to my other suspect. Also, not including your self-vote, you and Korts are equal in the vote count.ckd wrote:Des unvoted....now why would he do that?
Your vote was on ckd for gut. I'm finding it hard to believe that this is the next most suspicious thing you've seen in all 15 pages of this game. What are you thinking about Korts? SensFan? Yos? Elmo?vollkan wrote:Rofl. Reason: Ignoring my questions about his declaration of suspicion on SensFan.Des wrote: Vollkan and Yos, if not ckd, who would you be voting for? Why?
Whoops, I missed that. Sorry.vollkan wrote:No it wasn't. I've already explicitly said that I take gut as a null-tell for CKD. I jokingly voted CKD over the gut thing, but the point I was addressing seriously was his mimicry ofDes wrote: Your vote was on ckd for gutYes Ministerthrough the use of an irregular verb: "I scumhunt early game-style", "You reach and attempt to appear scumhunting"
But Yos left ckd atvollkan wrote:Yos made no pretences about having anything other than gut. As I said, I don't like Yos's vote, but there is a difference between casting a vote and stating it is based on gut (bad enough, imo) and casting a vote which is apparently based on something non-gut but then seemingly avoiding actually explaining what that 'something' is and why it is actually scummier.
I should clarify. By saying it wasn't prodding or probing, I meant that you were actually accusing rofl of being scum. I should have said that it wasckd wrote:It is reaching…but NOT THAT reachy. It was early in the game…I upgraded my random vote (korts) to rofl who I felt might be making some scummy posts…and while you deem this as not prodding or probing, look at the reaction to come out of it. Now, I am not saying I did this for a reaction, but I didn’t do it to be safe either. I would not have advocated lynching rofl at the moment based on that, but it was enough for me to change my vote.
ckd wrote:Nothing..couple jokes..random votes…he wasn’t doing much of anything..but that was what most of goes on Day 1 in the first pages of a game…it was different in rofl play…I assume you are asking me about Korts at this point because I had my random vote on him…but what did anybody do in the first 5 pages of the game…other than BM spamming the thread..nothing really got this game going until my attack of rofl.
My question is, really, what made rofl's scum-hunting seem forced but Korts' seem genuine? For example, do you think Korts' suggestion that rofl was trying to buddy up to Yos wasn't tenuous and forced?ckd, Post 132 wrote:to me, just seems like someone who is trying to look like they are scum hunting...again this is just a couple pages into the game.
rofl, Post 172 wrote:ckd, kison: how does bm's declaration that ckd is protown differ from my own about des, and why has it gone ignored by you two up to this point?
You weren't concerned about the day ending earlier than was necessary?Yosarian2 wrote:Yeah, but...it was only at L -1 because he put it there. That dosn't seem like any kind of reason to unvote him...destructor wrote:I didn't like the ckd wagon being at L-1. I see no merit in having a wagon that strong where discussion has been relatively limited and some players have contributed little.
But you wouldn't like to make one yourself?Yos wrote:Eh...other then ckd and Guardian, no one really stood out to me as especally scummy to me when I read through the thread. If there's a decent case against someone else, I'd like to hear it.
It'd be better if you did that all for yourself.Tajo wrote:In the meanwhile, anyone would like to explain me the game in few words and make a brief summary of everything going on here, like why Korts has 4 votes and such?
There's no need for hyperbole. If you didn't see anyone else as obviously scum in your first read, I'd expect you to do some rereading and look for new leads.Yos wrote:Um, I just said no one else really stood out to me as scummy just yet, which kind of means that no, I'm not going to make a case against someone else. What, you expect me to catch the whole mafia in the first 4 real-life days of the game?
Because what you say I did isn't even true and even if I thought he was suspicious, andYos wrote:What you did instead (Drop your suspicion on him completly, move your vote to a different wagon, and begin to strongly defend him and attack everyone else on his wagon) is quite confusing if you really are a townie who previously thought he was suspicious looking, unless A. you thought there was new evidence pointing to him being town, or B. you never actually wanted to lynch him in the first place, you just wanted it to look like you did.
You were using hyperbole:Yosarian2 wrote:Who's using hyperbole? If one person looks significantly more scummy to me then anyone else, I'm not likely to go around making detailed cases on people I find less scummy. I'm certanly willing to listen to them though, and will keep an open mind.There's no need for hyperbole. If you didn't see anyone else as obviously scum in your first read, I'd expect you to do some rereading and look for new leads.Yos wrote:Um, I just said no one else really stood out to me as scummy just yet, which kind of means that no, I'm not going to make a case against someone else. What, you expect me to catch the whole mafia in the first 4 real-life days of the game?
Since when did pointing out a suspect necessitate catching an entire scum-team and making detailed cases? This was never what I asked you to do, so stop trying to make me sound unreasonable. And this is all aside from the point that, so far as I could tell, you were basically asking other people to hunt scum for you.Yos wrote:What, you expect me to catch the whole mafia in the first 4 real-life days of the game?
I didn't see your vote as being particularly significant until I started questioning vollkan about rofl being his second suspect. It was the first and only vote you've placed and you made it for non-specific reasons. It became more meaningful to me in the time around the posts where it was discussed. Look back at those posts - I referred to your vote in vollkan's terms, since it was his take on it I was asking about.Yos wrote:Any reason you're only asking me this now?So.. why is ckd most likely to be scum?
ckd hadn't responded to my last questions to him before he went inactive. What else was I supposed to say besides asking him to respond to them? (which I did)Yosarian2 wrote:Ok. At one point, you were voting for CKD over Korts, which (I assume) means you thought CKD was scummer then Korts at that moment in time.
Then CKD voted himself; combined with the guardian kill, this put him at lynch -1.
After this point, you for some reason were happier voting Korts over CKD, which (I assume) means you now thought Korts scummier then CKD. You also did not continue to persue or attack CKD in any of your posts after this point.
I don't see self-voting as inherently scummy. ckd doesn't look more town for having done it or anything, though, and IYos wrote:This is the thing I can't understand, since I would normally consider someone self-voting would make them more scummy in my eyes, not less. Was there some other factor that made you decide after that point that Korts was scummier then CKD, or am I missing something, or what?
I didn't say that. Yos' vote wasn't an L-2 vote. ckd only made it to L-2 when he self-voted. The Guardian kill put him at L-1 and that was when I unvoted because I didn't think a player being at L-1 at that point in the Day was a good thing. My unvote wasn't a comment on anyone else's vote.Yosarian2 wrote:What destructor seemed to be arguing was that if you vote someone, and then they later end up at lynch -2 or lynch -1, you should unvote them just because of that. I find that an absurd argument, and I think that kind of thinking would tend to make games last forever.
The way you describe my play. Your case falls apart if this is not true.Yosarian2 wrote:Wait...what's not true? The questions I have with your play?
Why I changed my vote? I've already explained that.Yos wrote:By the way, is there a reason you still haven't actually answered my question? I've asked it like 3 times now, and you keep changing the subject.
DrippingGoofball wrote:STRATEGY FOR TOWNIES:
Now that Korts and CKD are head-to-head, and all the scum except BM is off-wagon, let's not move our votes and check out the scum's moves. They may hesitate because they are picking between two scumbags.
This was early in the game, but it was still a significant reach to suggest that rofl was calling Yos pro-town.Korts wrote:Nice catch. rofl, are you suggesting that Yos is particularly pro-town? Buddying up much?destructor wrote:Why is it more interesting that Yos was on the list?
I think Elmo was saying that scum probably guessed that Guardian was a Tracker based on his questions to Adel.DrippingGoofball wrote:Would someone mind explaining this to the slow kid? I don't get it at all.Elmo wrote:The above seems obvious to me;
I'm not surprised that Kisonscum got it right away. Elmo, who henceforth shall be referred to as a 'townie,' must be on the right track, then.
Yos, seriously? That was obviously speculation. Enough with the whole quoting me out of context thing!Yosarian2 wrote:Lol. Is that really going to be your defense now?destructor wrote: Yos is bussing ckd and his attack on me is an attempt to get something out of ckd's lynch - a mislynch on me.
Lines like...Yosarian2 wrote:Um...the way I described your play is completly accurate, as far as I can see.destructor wrote:The way you describe my play. Your case falls apart if this is not true.Yosarian2 wrote:Wait...what's not true? The questions I have with your play?
... are inaccurate descriptions of what I actually did. I've covered this already.Yos wrote:You talked about how my vote was based on gut (which, by the way, I never said), but then, rather then ask me why I was suspicious of CKD, you tried to get me to make a case on someone else.
[... and ...]
Drop your suspicion on him completly, move your vote to a different wagon, and begin to strongly defend him and attack everyone else on his wagon
Again, I'm certain I've covered this a number of times and you didn't say anything about the explanations lacking then.Yos wrote:Frankly, I'm not sure why you're making such a big deal about this; I'm not even trying to make a case that we should lynch you today or anything, at least not at the moment; I just want to understand the reasons behind your actions.
My reasons were:destructor wrote:I didn't like the ckd wagon being at L-1. I see no merit in having a wagon that strong where discussion has been relatively limited and some players have contributed little. I already explained that I had moved my vote to my second suspect, levelling the two wagons. I could easily switch back to ckd if I wanted to, making him the deadline lynch, just as much as anyone could change which wagon is leading with a single vote. (Note that since DGB unvoted ckd, Korts has become the deadline lynch).
I asked you and vollkan who else you'd vote for because... I didn't know who else you suspected. Can you answer now?
1. I did when I placed the vote. It was early on, though. Nothing was in stone.Yos wrote:1. While you were voting CKD, did you think CKD was scummier then Korts?
2. Now that you are voting Korts, do you think that he is scummier then CKD?
3. If the answer to both 1 and 2 is yes, then what changed your mind?
I voted ckd because I thought his attack on rofl was scummy. His reasoning for his case didn't gel with the explanation he gave for voting rofl in the first place - gut. This isn't really a huge discrepancy, but I pointed out that I felt his issues with rofl's play were probably more applicable to Korts'... which in turn had something to do with why I suspected Korts. I listed my thoughts on Korts about 3 posts ago as well as in some other posts (e.g. Korts ignoring the invalidity of ckd's first vote). I also noted that I was more interested in trying to make a case based on connections as opposed to isolated scummy behaviour.Yos wrote:Ok, thank you.
So, with #2, in saying you're "not sure", I suppose that means that you currently think CKD and Korts are about equally scummy now, is that right? Could you explain what you think the cases on each one are?
It stopped the day from ending prematurely, it applied pressure to my other suspect, it created a more level vote count meaning any other votes placed could be read into more.Yos wrote:And, could you explain why you think your vote is "more useful" on Korts now then it would be on CKD.
destructor wrote:His reasoning for his case didn't gel with the explanation he gave for voting rofl in the first place - gut. This isn't really a huge discrepancy, but I pointed out that I felt his issues with rofl'searly[/i] play were probably more applicable to Korts'.
destructor wrote:His reasoning for his case didn't gel with the explanation he gave for voting rofl in the first place - gut. This isn't really a huge discrepancy, but I pointed out that I felt his issues with rofl'splay were probably more applicable to Korts'.early
I'm pretty sure nothing I posted in my last response to you hadn't been posted already. I think that's done for now, though. hehYosarian2 wrote:I was never really "pushing points on DES"; I was just trying to get him to explain himself and just answer a couple of simple questions, and for some reason he spent 10 pages fighting me over it before finally giving me some half-decent answers.Raging Rabbit wrote:Yos is still pushing bad points on des, which is still scummy.
I mean, how is me doing that scummy? What possible scum motive would I have for getting into a side argument with someone who everyone else in the game is apparently already convinced is town?
Sure, but everyone else can be better judges of this than me and it would be more meaningfully discussed by other players. I'm basically handballing the argument to everyone else.Yos wrote:(shrug) I don't think it's especally relevent; even if no one else noticed the exact same thing I did, dosn't mean I'm wrong. Especally if they had already decided you were pro-town before that event happened.
???Yosarian2 wrote:... I pretty clearly was just stating clear and obvious facts.
???Yos wrote:You keep accusing me of trying to "create a big show", but you have yet to explain exactally why you think anything about what I did in questioning you yesterday was scummy (keeping in mind that "scummy" means "more likely to come from scum then from town").
I'm all for lynching lurkers and have seen scum lurk to victory (SensFan himself, in fact), but Sens is looking more like a flaker than a lurker right now. I would call him a lurker if he'd been posting enough to avoid prods without really contributing, which is more likely to be insidious, as opposed to not posting at all to the point of replacement, which is plain flaking.Yos wrote:Protip: A lurker wagon is always the right move.
This.populartajo wrote:Just for the record, BM also used this tactic in Adel's Nice Shot. Want to take a guess about his alignment?
I don't have the time right now to bring up the quotes to prove that this is untrue.Yos wrote:Yes, it is a clear and obvious fact that you never mentioned any suspicion on CKD again after that point. That is what I meant when I said you "dropped your suspicion". As I've already explained.
How is this OMGUS?Yos wrote:The fact that you're still OMGUSing me about this, even after the argument has become obsolete, really dosn't make you look good, destructor; are you really that touchy about anyone suspecting you at all?
You asked why I found it scummy. Specifically, how it was more likely to come from scum. I didn't say it made you scum, I explained why it was more likely to come from scum, in your own terms. So this is a strawman.Yos wrote:And again, "No one else agreed with you, thererfore you're scum!" is a horribly flawed argument, and I'm not sure you realize that.
Why doesn't anyone else see it?Yos wrote:Um...what? "counter-intuitive"? It was an entierly logical interpretation of a possible motive for your actions. Why is it you don't see that?
Not great. I said this in 557:Yos wrote:What do you think about [SensFan's] contributions before November 29th, his last post, then?
The other reason was a meta from this game: Mini 570.destructor wrote:Sens' inactivity gives him negative points too. He's done no scum-hunting in any of his 11 posts. I've got other reasons to suspect him, but I'll have to see him play more before I give them more weight.
destructor, Post 367 wrote:Hmm.
Unvote
Vote: Korts
ckd, I still want to see you responding to the posts I mentioned.
destructor, Post 372 wrote:I could have left you at L-1. I don't see what's wrong with me changing to my other suspect. Also, not including your self-vote, you and Korts are equal in the vote count.ckd wrote:Des unvoted....now why would he do that?
How did you miss this one?:destructor, Post 405 wrote:I already explained that I had moved my vote to my second suspect, levelling the two wagons. I could easily switch back to ckd if I wanted to, making him the deadline lynch, just as much as anyone could change which wagon is leading with a single vote.
This was all before you said:destructor, 409 wrote:I should clarify. By saying it wasn't prodding or probing, I meant that you were actually accusing rofl of being scum. I should have said that it wasckd wrote:It is reaching…but NOT THAT reachy. It was early in the game…I upgraded my random vote (korts) to rofl who I felt might be making some scummy posts…and while you deem this as not prodding or probing, look at the reaction to come out of it. Now, I am not saying I did this for a reaction, but I didn’t do it to be safe either. I would not have advocated lynching rofl at the moment based on that, but it was enough for me to change my vote.more thanprodding and probing. The quotes I posted made this evident. I didn't like the fact that you tried to downplay how serious you were about it all ("I am not trying to parade it as anything else").
ckd wrote:Nothing..couple jokes..random votes…he wasn’t doing much of anything..but that was what most of goes on Day 1 in the first pages of a game…it was different in rofl play…I assume you are asking me about Korts at this point because I had my random vote on him…but what did anybody do in the first 5 pages of the game…other than BM spamming the thread..nothing really got this game going until my attack of rofl.My question is, really, what made rofl's scum-hunting seem forced but Korts' seem genuine? For example, do you think Korts' suggestion that rofl was trying to buddy up to Yos wasn't tenuous and forced?ckd, Post 132 wrote:to me, just seems like someone who is trying to look like they are scum hunting...again this is just a couple pages into the game.
Given that it's been pointed out that BM has declared that you're town past the random stage, can you answer rofl's questions here again?rofl, Post 172 wrote:ckd, kison: how does bm's declaration that ckd is protown differ from my own about des, and why has it gone ignored by you two up to this point?
Which, even as speculation, is still a huge leap from the evidence.Yosarian2, Post 417 wrote:What you did instead (Drop your suspicion on him completly, move your vote to a different wagon, and begin to strongly defend him and attack everyone else on his wagon) is quite confusing if you really are a townie who previously thought he was suspicious looking, unless A. you thought there was new evidence pointing to him being town, or B. you never actually wanted to lynch him in the first place, you just wanted it to look like you did.
But they clearly show me dropping all suspicion of ckd?Yos wrote:Um, none of that is "proof" of anything. Not one of those posts was any kind of actual attack against CKD, or case against him, or pressure on him.
I'm pretty sure 409 shows me doing everything you say I wasn't.Yos wrote:You were claimng you were suspicious of him, but it didn't look like you really were.
Because you've never actually substantiated that claim.Yosarian2 wrote:Well, it certanly looks like you didn't want to go after him there in those posts. I'm not sure why you're quibbling over semantics here; you know what I mean.destructor wrote:But they clearly show me dropping all suspicion of ckd?Yos wrote:Um, none of that is "proof" of anything. Not one of those posts was any kind of actual attack against CKD, or case against him, or pressure on him.
What about the rest of Yos' play?Korts wrote:Meanwhile, the debate between Yos and des doesn't seem to give proof of either one being scum. Yos seems to be slightly reaching, while des seems to be extrapolating Yos's scumminess from the fact that Yos is slightly reaching.
It's some basic vote count analysis. Scum know who each other are and so it's usually safe to assume that their play will be influenced by how their buddies vote. I split my suspects into those on ckd's wagon and those off because I tend to think scum won't all vote together.forbiddanlight wrote:I actually dislike this post since it seems to be lining up lynches that could be completely off, and if enough of them are wrong, cause a win for des scum. Not sure if I think you are scum or not, but I think your idea was horrible.destructor wrote:
Which of the six I've named do you think would give us the most insight to the others' alignments if lynched?
That is, I think we should lynch one of those six and focus on narrowing that list down.
I call it a show. The whole idea was to make it look like youYosarian2 wrote:I've been scumhunting pretty consistatnly all game. In fact, the reason you're attacking me here is because I was scumhunting and trying to find out if you were scum. Contradiction much?
...
For that matter, if I was scum, what would I stand to gain from speculating about a possible link day 1 between you and CKD?
I don't believe it's counter-intuitive to unvote to avoid a day ending sooner than it needs to. Point B and C never actually happened. *cue repeat*Yos wrote:I saw point A, you unvoting CKD in a situation where, well, where it's totally counter-intuitive a townie would; point B, you then stopped putting pressure on CKD, and point C, you started trying to get other people to be less focused on CKD. I came to the possible conclusion that you didn't want CKD lynched at that point, for whatever reason; and even then I didn't assume you were scum, I considered that you might be linked to him, or you might have changed your mind and now thought he was town. How is that not a "natural train of thought" in scum-hunting?