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I'm guessing your vote is solely motivated by the tone of my post, else you're pretty much a complete hypocrite for asking me to justify my vote or "you'll vote me" (oh god no. help me. what a horrible, horrible thing to happen.). I then did justify my vote, in my characteristic sarcastic and self-referential manner, and then you proceed to vote me anyways. Actually, either way you're pretty much a complete hypocrite, so that doesn't matter anyways.charter wrote:What now?-
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1. Yes, quite.charter wrote:You're getting quite worked up about it. I just managed to get you to match your contribution to this game over the last month. I had no intention of lynching you.
Your justification is extremely poor.
1- I suppose.
2- A little early to already decide this.
3- Not even a reason to vote for eld.
2. Deadline is Thursday.
3. It is, however, a reason to unvote kuribo, and with aforementioned deadline on Thursday, I want to have a vote out there somewhere.-
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@Vi: elderad is currently my #3 suspect behind JDodge and kuribo. Given the deadline constraints I would not be opposed to lynching elderad or one of the other two.
While on that subject, I still like kuribo as my #1 suspect since the most important part of his analysis, Vi=scum, is something I strongly disagree with because I view Vi as the most not-yet-claimed protown player.The end justifies the means.-
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So you think Kris was protown, too?Machiavellian-Mafia wrote: While on that subject, I still like kuribo as my #1 suspect since the most important part of his analysis, Vi=scum, is something I strongly disagree with because I view Vi as the most not-yet-claimed protown player.Join me on my quest to play every NES game! Some of them are awful.
Kuribo's read is foolproof: one night he was high on NyQuil, and he's ancestors reveiled Aureal's alignment to him. - Dessew-
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I had a mostly neutral read on KR, but I see Vi's actions in this game to be protown. So my combined read on KR/Vi a protown one.kuribo wrote:
So you think Kris was protown, too?Machiavellian-Mafia wrote: While on that subject, I still like kuribo as my #1 suspect since the most important part of his analysis, Vi=scum, is something I strongly disagree with because I view Vi as the most not-yet-claimed protown player.The end justifies the means.-
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Do you often play while high? Or just this game?Machiavellian-Mafia wrote:
I had a mostly neutral read on KRkuribo wrote:
So you think Kris was protown, too?Machiavellian-Mafia wrote: While on that subject, I still like kuribo as my #1 suspect since the most important part of his analysis, Vi=scum, is something I strongly disagree with because I view Vi as the most not-yet-claimed protown player.Join me on my quest to play every NES game! Some of them are awful.
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Okay then, pass that stuff you guys are smoking over here to me.charter wrote:I thought Kris was pretty town.Join me on my quest to play every NES game! Some of them are awful.
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I am still disinclined to move my vote again.charter wrote:JDodge, anything changed since we don't have a deadline until Moo is replaced?
Kuribo not finding KR protown in the least is odd. Not necessarily suspicious, but odd.-
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I'm really not liking how JDodge's suspicions of afatchic, which were stated well in advance and well-outlined in two posts, vanished entirely when kuribo replaced in.
More interestingly, I'm not liking this last assertion that KR was in the least pro-Town, considering basically everything JDodge said until KR had to replace out.
Ergo, something Idolike.Vote: JDodge(L-3)Everything you say and do matters. People will respond in ways you may never see. May those responses be what you intend.-
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Labelling it a technicality doesn't diminish the fact that I've just proven you wrong. I said I was surprised at your reaction - I meant it.Vi wrote:@eldarad: Nice technicality. Then let me ask this, more for summary than anything--What do YOU think of afatchic without the charter link?
In a vacuum, I would say that afatchic was fairly scummy, to the extent that I'd have been happy with an afatchic lynch. That has been somewhat overtaken by events though.
At this moment in time, I can't really give a standalone meaningful read on afatchic/kuribo because I just can't ignore the consequences of charter's manufactured linkage.
I see and acknowledge His Majesty kuribo's Vi-eldarad scum theory. Not buying it, sorry.
Vi's voting pattern does look odd, but this isn't what you should be looking at. Vi's charter vote and then his unvote in 328 brought my assumptions about this game crashing to the ground. It just looks...wrong.kuribo wrote:Page 10- Vi finds eld scummy and votes him. (Or bussing?)
Having said that, my whole problem with Vi as viable scum candidate is that Kris didn't look scummy - he looked like a newbie with an odd but very complete set of preconceptions.
More specifically, I think charter is creating artifical linkage with afatchic. That is, I don't think they are *actually* linked in a scumbuddy type way, rather that I think charter is trying to create what appears to be a scumbuddy link with a townie.kuribo wrote:eld thinks charter and fatchic are linked.
rawr.kuribo wrote:eld jokes that Vi is scum (You would know, wouldn't you?)
er, what? Shifting what blame? Shifting it to who?JDodge wrote:1. The way he was blameshifting was really fucking awful
I thought Kris was fairly town too. He certainly wasn't scummy by any stretch of the imagination. Irritating? Yes.kuribo wrote:
Okay then, pass that stuff you guys are smoking over here to me.charter wrote:I thought Kris was pretty town.
So, here's where I am.
At deadline, I would prefer to see charter lynched. No-one else even comes close.
If kuribo/afatchic were lynched I wouldn't be distraught, but a charter lynch would be far better from a Day 2 standpoint.
A JD lynch I could live with and would be prepared to contribute to.-
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Why the surprise? It seems to me based on this--eldarad 393 wrote:I said I was surprised at your reaction - I meant it.
--that the major reason you think I'm scum/scummy is because I disagreed with you and did not push your pet wagon. To which I will say something a couple of people already have in this game, albeit for different reasons--Oh Myeldarad 393 wrote:Vi's charter vote and then his unvote in 328 brought my assumptions about this game crashing to the ground. It just looks...wrong.God, You Suck.
You have no idea how much I'm not buying this. Critical thinking failure is go--eldarad 393 wrote:At this moment in time, I can't really give a standalone meaningful read on afatchic/kuribo because I just can't ignore the consequences of charter's manufactured linkage.
So the lynches you wouldn't be okay with are:eldarad 393 wrote:At deadline, I would prefer to see charter lynched. No-one else even comes close.
If kuribo/afatchic were lynched I wouldn't be distraught, but a charter lynch would be far better from a Day 2 standpoint.
A JD lynch I could live with and would be prepared to contribute to.
*Your own
*Mine (though you explained why)
*Machiavellian-Mafia. And that's who I want you to give an opinion on.
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I realized a day or two ago that Machiavellian-Mafia has been coasting under the radar basically throughout, and all of his votes and significant suspicions have been against people who were unlikely to respond.
*Avinyl (eldarad)
*afatchic (kuribo)
*JDodge
*afatchic again
The abridged version of his commentary toward everyone who has participated is that they have seemed pro-Town to him (except eldarad until he voted to policy lynch JDodge). I don't like it.Everything you say and do matters. People will respond in ways you may never see. May those responses be what you intend.-
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I strongly object to your representation of all my votes/suspicions being against people who were unlikely to respond:Vi wrote:I realized a day or two ago that Machiavellian-Mafia has been coasting under the radar basically throughout, and all of his votes and significant suspicions have been against people who were unlikely to respond.
*Avinyl (eldarad)
*afatchic (kuribo)
*JDodge
*afatchic again
The abridged version of his commentary toward everyone who has participated is that they have seemed pro-Town to him (except eldarad until he voted to policy lynch JDodge). I don't like it.
*Avinyl (eldarad) - At that time he hadn't been prodded/replaced yet. Plus I had several clear reasons illustrated in my first summary post.
*afatchic (kuribo) - My initial insistence for afatchic to fulfill his promises was more about wanting him to contribute, not expressing suspicions against him.
*JDodge - My attacks on JDodge actually contributed to his revival in game participation, the exact opposite of "unlikely to respond".
*afatchic again - I'll give this to you. His trend of inactivity and non-contribution was clear. I found that trend plus his activity in other games to be scumtells.
I also disagree with your second conclusion. In my first summary post I had charter as my #2 suspect and JDodge as neutral although they were active participants at that time. Then at the time of my second summary post, although 3 out of 7 players were inactive, I still had active elderad as the #1 suspect. Plus, the whole game I have only openly declared pro-townness in 3 instances (afatchic, charter, Vi) excluding cop-claim-Moo, which is hardly "everyone who has participated".The end justifies the means.-
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Yeah, I have my issues with MM, but even I don't see him as sniping at people who are unlikely to respond.
If anything, he's questioned me a fair bit, despite the fact that I'm exceedingly likely to respond.Join me on my quest to play every NES game! Some of them are awful.
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No freaking crap. It's not like I'd expect you to say, "Oh my god, now that I think of it, kuribo's right! Vi IS my scum partner! I'll be damned."eldarad wrote: I see and acknowledge His Majesty kuribo's Vi-eldarad scum theory. Not buying it, sorry.Join me on my quest to play every NES game! Some of them are awful.
Kuribo's read is foolproof: one night he was high on NyQuil, and he's ancestors reveiled Aureal's alignment to him. - Dessew-
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Brilliant idea fresh from the noggin'.
Whoever sees the post where Sim announces Moospiker's replacement first, post in bold something like "[Moospiker's replacement] we have already massclaimed, everyone has claimed townie, can you confirm Moospiker's claim that you are indeed a townie? Please answer immediately."
The point is to do it before he can read the thread. Hopefully he doesn't see this post, and I don't think we need to discuss this and increase the chances of him seeing it. I really see no downside to this idea.-
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Aside from the numerous moral and ethical issues that this raises, I agree. The only problem being that anyone with a brain will look back at what Moo claimed,charter wrote:Brilliant idea fresh from the noggin'.
Whoever sees the post where Sim announces Moospiker's replacement first, post in bold something like "[Moospiker's replacement] we have already massclaimed, everyone has claimed townie, can you confirm Moospiker's claim that you are indeed a townie? Please answer immediately."
The point is to do it before he can read the thread. Hopefully he doesn't see this post, and I don't think we need to discuss this and increase the chances of him seeing it. I really see no downside to this idea.especially if they're scum, to avoid such an issue. So basically, useless. Also, people don't take well to entrapment.
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