Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

ISO · Post Post #8200 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 5:22 am

Please quote all posts that are made from the wrong account.

ISO · Post Post #8201 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 5:26 am

votecount 3.5

Dunnstral (5) | MathBlade, Nashville Dreams, Save The Dragons, Menalque, MegAzumarill

cassowary (3) | Klick, Dunnstral, tictac
Klick (3) | Nero Cain, SCP 682, Cat Scratch Fever

Menalque (2) | cassowary, The Keeper

MathBlade (1) | Flavor Leaf
Cat Scratch Fever (1) | The Keeper

Not Voting | Sword of Ducks, bnuuy

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-06-01 09:03:00).

Nashville Dreams · Post Post #8202 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 5:27 am

Nero, you are aware scum might be using you right?

~Titus

Nero Cain · Post Post #8203 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 5:31 am

sure I guess. Do u think klick is town? Also, I didn't think you were scum reading SCP or CSF

MathBlade · Post Post #8204 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 5:32 am

Nero do you think Dunn is town? If so why.

Nero Cain · Post Post #8205 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 5:34 am

clearly, I've been town reading Dunn the whole game.

Nashville Dreams · Post Post #8206 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 5:50 am

In post 8203, Nero Cain wrote:sure I guess. Do u think klick is town? Also, I didn't think you were scum reading SCP or CSF

I am not, but I wanted your Klick wagon to start to see who would FoS Klick as a way to get reads. Wolves would want Klick dead as they're part of a masonry. Every masonry member dead is a confirmed improvement for the wolves. While a wolf might be a mason, that's a kill mafia have to make versus one they can elect to take.

It's not as obvious as leaving FL alive, but for us there's strategic benefit to leaving Klick alive.

Math's relationship with Klick is all sorts of weird.

In 10-30 minutes, I intend to do a proper VCA with what we know.

~Titus

Nashville Dreams · Post Post #8207 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 5:51 am

I might have my teams backwards, but I think the point is clear.

MathBlade · Post Post #8208 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 6:03 am

In post 8205, Nero Cain wrote:clearly, I've been town reading Dunn the whole game.

This seems sarcasm, but if so why not vote Dunn

MathBlade · Post Post #8209 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 6:04 am

In post 8207, Nashville Dreams wrote:I might have my teams backwards, but I think the point is clear.

Yep my relationship to Klick is weird

Nero Cain · Post Post #8210 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 6:06 am

sure lets just end the day

VOTE: Dunn

bnuuy · Post Post #8211 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 6:34 am

VOTE: Dunnstral
Might as well

MathBlade · Post Post #8212 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 6:36 am

That’s 7. Give Titus a chance to do her VCA then probably cool to end the day.

Nashville Dreams · Post Post #8213 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 7:19 am

I'll need a couple hours. One of my staff bungled somethings hard.

~Titus

Nashville Dreams · Post Post #8214 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 7:22 am

UNVOTE: Dunn

Nashville Dreams · Post Post #8215 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 9:23 am

Alright, let's lay out the standards first. It's unlikely that wolves and mafia will bus heavily. This factors into the analysis. Most of this analysis will center, by votes alone, who cannot be wolves or mafia. Then, we'll add known knowledge. Butterchurn did not know any of the other scum, so his votes are suggestive of who is town but not solid evidence of such. A malefactor is a rare occurrence so this analysis, when I get there, can be taken with a grain of salt.

This VCA does miss a prior wagon of significance on bnuuy that occurred day 1 due to the game speed. I'm too lazy to get that out right now.

I'm going to treat this as two VCAs. One for wolves and one for mafia. Each will get their own post. There also will be a post with spoiled votecounts.

MathBlade · Post Post #8216 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 9:29 am

In post 8215, Nashville Dreams wrote:Alright, let's lay out the standards first. It's unlikely that wolves and mafia will bus heavily. This factors into the analysis. Most of this analysis will center, by votes alone, who cannot be wolves or mafia. Then, we'll add known knowledge. Butterchurn did not know any of the other scum, so his votes are suggestive of who is town but not solid evidence of such. A malefactor is a rare occurrence so this analysis, when I get there, can be taken with a grain of salt.

This VCA does miss a prior wagon of significance on bnuuy that occurred day 1 due to the game speed. I'm too lazy to get that out right now.

I'm going to treat this as two VCAs. One for wolves and one for mafia. Each will get their own post. There also will be a post with spoiled votecounts.

How do you know if butterchurn did or didn’t know partners?

MathBlade · Post Post #8217 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 9:36 am

In post 7224, Nashville Dreams wrote:
In post 7222, Dunnstral wrote:And by most of the wagon, I mean, literally 10 out of 11 people voting right now have no explanation for their vote

And the 1 explanation given was that the 8 people voting flavor leaf weren't all town. Wow.

Spoiler:
In post 7053, Nero Cain wrote:I don't think that it's impossible for Enchant to be scum that's just not doing anything.

I had felt like Enchant was close enough to his play in

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=88987

that he was on the town but his iso isn't great and 901 could be a partner tell between bnuuy and him. His reaction to getting voted isn't great but most ppl react poorly. I wouldn't really object to a lim here as hard-to-read/unhelpful slots are a decent elimination.

Speaking of the above game, the vig got ran up d1, was blocked n1, and then wagonned by 2/5 scum. So I am seeing parallels here.

In post 5975, Cephrir wrote:Flavor Leaf (8) | Klick, tictac, Dunnstral, cassowary, mastina, MalcolmTucker, Menalque, MonkeyMan576
Even if FL was scum that's masquerading as a vig the wagon on him isn't all town. I mean obviously, it isn't a 1:1 comparison b/c there is a "guilty" on him.

Still think Mastina is scum that's talking out of both sides of her mouth and she's being unproductive with her vote. We prob should have just voted there today instead of worrying about if she's really a beloved princess b/c if she's scum I highly doubt she is and she's fakeclaiming a role we won't really want to lim.

Still feel like Dunn's "if FL was town he'd do X" is scum and besides FL all of his scum reads being ppl that are voting him is gross. Not impossible I'm being manipulated onto his wagon.

VOTE: MalcolmTucker

In post 7057, mastina wrote:
In post 7055, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Pretty munch vanity wagons are a vote for a no elimination at this point. This is not townie.
A vote for a no lim would be better than a vote for town that is very obviously town.

VOTE: Malcolm Tucker

In post 7059, Save The Dragons wrote:VOTE: malcolmtucker

In post 7061, Klick wrote:VOTE: MalcolmTucker

In post 7062, Nashville Dreams wrote:VOTE: MalcomTucker

In post 7064, MonkeyMan576 wrote:VOTE: MalcolmTucker

Going to the Rockies/Royals game and may not be able to vote later in the day.

In post 7066, SCP 682 wrote:VOTE: Malcom

In post 7067, Ydrasse wrote:VOTE: malcomtucker

In post 7071, tictac wrote:
In post 7069, Nashville Dreams wrote:perfect is the enemy of the good
oh damn
u speaking 2 my soul there

VOTE: malcom

L-2

In post 7197, Sword of Ducks wrote:well then, let's see where this gets us

UNVOTE: Menalque

VOTE: MacolmTucker

In post 7211, Enchant wrote:VOTE: Malcolm
This is technically correct but misleading. Most people likely explained why they were scumreading MalcolmTucker in the thread already. We've had long scenarios where perfect was the enemy of good as well, so we were willing to compromise. Furthermore, scum likely wanted to be on a fast moving wagon because they likely wanted to be seen voting their partner. This explains butterchurn shifting and setting up to vote his "townread". If that's the scum voting MalcolmTucker, I'm ok with that.

~Titus

Technically correct but misleading and not posting is Dunn scum.

Nashville Dreams · Post Post #8218 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 9:38 am

Intro post.

Why didn't you ask that prior to your VCA?

~Titus

Nashville Dreams · Post Post #8219 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 9:42 am

Spoiler: Day 1 - Starts from first major wagon

In post 641, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 1.3
Mathblade (6) | tictac,
butterchurn
, Cat Scratch Fever,
MalcolmTucker
, Nashville Dreams, cassowary

catboi
(2) | Wallflower, Sword of Ducks
Save The Dragons (2) | bnuuy, The Keeper

MalcolmTucker
(2) | Save The Dragons, Menalque

Menalque (1) | Dunnstral

mastina
(1) | Klick
Nashville Dreams (1) |
Ydrasse

MegAzumarill (1) |
catboi

Nero Cain (1) | SCP 682
Klick (1) | Mathblade

Not Voting |
Enchant
, Flavor Leaf, MegAzumarill,
Toogeloo
,
mastina

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 09:41:00).

Toogeloo
will be replaced if they fail to pick up their role PM by tomorrow morning.

In post 741, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 1.4Mathblade (5) |
butterchurn
, Cat Scratch Fever, Nashville Dreams, cassowary, bnuuy

MalcolmTucker
(3) | Menalque,
Ydrasse
, Save The Dragons

Klick (2) | Mathblade,
MalcolmTucker

catboi
(2) | Nero Cain, tictac

Save The Dragons (1) | The Keeper
Menalque (1) | Dunnstral

mastina
(1) | Klick
SCP 682 (1) | MegAzumarill
Nero Cain (1) | SCP 682
tictac (1) |
catboi

Not Voting |
Enchant
, Flavor Leaf,
Toogeloo
,
mastina
, Sword of Ducks

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 09:41:00).

Replacing
Toogeloo
.[/color]

In post 800, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 1.5Mathblade (5) |
butterchurn
, Cat Scratch Fever, Nashville Dreams, cassowary, bnuuy

MalcolmTucker
(4) | Menalque,
Ydrasse
, Save The Dragons, Mathblade

catboi
(2) | Nero Cain, tictac

Klick (1) |
MalcolmTucker

Save The Dragons (1) | The Keeper
Menalque (1) | Dunnstral

mastina
(1) | Klick
SCP 682 (1) | MegAzumarill
Nero Cain (1) | SCP 682
tictac (1) |
catboi

Not Voting |
Enchant
, Flavor Leaf,
Toogeloo
,
mastina
, Sword of Ducks

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 09:41:00).[/color]

In post 1164, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 1.6
catboi
(6) | Nero Cain, tictac, SCP 682, Flavor Leaf,
Ydrasse
, MegAzumarill

Mathblade (3) | Nashville Dreams, cassowary, bnuuy

bnuuy (2) | Save The Dragons, Mathblade
SCP 682 (2) |
butterchurn
, Menalque

Klick (1) |
MalcolmTucker

Dunnstral (1) |
Toogeloo

Save The Dragons (1) | The Keeper
Menalque (1) | Dunnstral

mastina
(1) | Klick
tictac (1) |
catboi

MegAzumarill (1) | Cat Scratch Fever

Ydrasse
(1) | Sword of Ducks

Not Voting |
Enchant
,
mastina

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 09:41:00).[/color]

In post 1367, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 1.7
catboi
(7) | Nero Cain, tictac, SCP 682, Flavor Leaf,
Ydrasse
, MegAzumarill,
Toogeloo

Nero Cain (4) | Save The Dragons,
catboi
,
MalcolmTucker
, Mathblade

Mathblade (3) | Nashville Dreams, cassowary, bnuuy,
butterchurn

SCP 682 (1) | Menalque
Klick (1) |
MalcolmTucker

Save The Dragons (1) | The Keeper
Menalque (1) | Dunnstral

mastina
(1) | Klick
MegAzumarill (1) | Cat Scratch Fever

Not Voting |
Enchant
,
mastina
, Sword of Ducks

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 09:41:00).[/color]

In post 1752, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 1.8
catboi
(6) | tictac, SCP 682, MegAzumarill,
Toogeloo
, Flavor Leaf, Mathblade

Nashville Dreams (4) |
Ydrasse
, Save The Dragons, Nero Cain,
butterchurn

Mathblade (3) | Nashville Dreams, cassowary, bnuuy

bnuuy (2) | Menalque,
catboi

Nero Cain (1) |
MalcolmTucker

Save The Dragons (1) | The Keeper
Menalque (1) | Dunnstral
MegAzumarill (1) | Cat Scratch Fever

Not Voting |
Enchant
,
mastina
, Sword of Ducks, Klick

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 09:41:00).[/color]

In post 2010, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 1.9
catboi
(5) | SCP 682, MegAzumarill,
Toogeloo
, Flavor Leaf, Mathblade

Nashville Dreams (4) |
Ydrasse
, Save The Dragons, Nero Cain,
butterchurn

Mathblade (3) | Nashville Dreams, cassowary, bnuuy

bnuuy (2) | Menalque,
catboi

Nero Cain (1) |
MalcolmTucker

SCP 682 (1) | tictac
Save The Dragons (1) | The Keeper
Flavor Leaf (1) | Dunnstral
MegAzumarill (1) | Cat Scratch Fever

Not Voting |
Enchant
,
mastina
, Sword of Ducks, Klick

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 09:41:00).[/color]

In post 2286, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 1.10Nashville Dreams (5) |
Ydrasse
, Nero Cain,
butterchurn
, Save The Dragons, Cat Scratch Fever

catboi
(4) | SCP 682, MegAzumarill,
Toogeloo
, Mathblade

Mathblade (3) | Nashville Dreams, cassowary, bnuuy

bnuuy (2) | Menalque,
catboi

Nero Cain (1) |
MalcolmTucker

SCP 682 (1) | tictac
Save The Dragons (1) | The Keeper
Flavor Leaf (1) | Dunnstral
Dunnstral (1) | Sword of Ducks

mastina
(1) | Flavor Leaf

Not Voting |
Enchant
,
mastina
, Klick

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 09:41:00).[/color]

In post 2452, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 1.11Nashville Dreams (5) |
Ydrasse
, Nero Cain,
butterchurn
, Save The Dragons, Cat Scratch Fever

catboi
(5) | SCP 682, MegAzumarill,
Toogeloo
, Mathblade, Flavor Leaf

Mathblade (3) | Nashville Dreams, cassowary, bnuuy

bnuuy (1) | Menalque
Nero Cain (1) |
MalcolmTucker

SCP 682 (1) | tictac
Save The Dragons (1) | The Keeper
Flavor Leaf (1) | Dunnstral
Dunnstral (1) | Sword of Ducks
tictac (1) |
catboi

Not Voting |
Enchant
,
mastina
, Klick

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 09:41:00).[/color]

In post 2480, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 1.12Nashville Dreams (6) |
Ydrasse
, Nero Cain,
butterchurn
, Save The Dragons, Cat Scratch Fever,
Toogeloo

catboi
(4) | SCP 682, MegAzumarill, Mathblade, Flavor Leaf

Mathblade (3) | Nashville Dreams, cassowary, bnuuy

bnuuy (1) | Menalque
SCP 682 (1) | tictac
Save The Dragons (1) | The Keeper
Flavor Leaf (1) | Dunnstral
Dunnstral (1) | Sword of Ducks
tictac (1) |
catboi

The Keeper (1) |
MalcolmTucker

Not Voting |
Enchant
,
mastina
, Klick

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 09:41:00).[/color]

SCP 682 replaces SCP 682.

In post 2737, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 1.13Nashville Dreams (6) |
Ydrasse
, Nero Cain,
butterchurn
, Save The Dragons, Cat Scratch Fever,
Toogeloo

catboi
(5) | MegAzumarill, Mathblade, Flavor Leaf, tictac, SCP 682

Mathblade (3) | Nashville Dreams, cassowary, bnuuy

Flavor Leaf (2) | Dunnstral, Klick
tictac (2) |
catboi
, Menalque

Save The Dragons (1) | The Keeper
Dunnstral (1) | Sword of Ducks
The Keeper (1) |
MalcolmTucker

Not Voting |
Enchant
,
mastina

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 09:41:00).[/color]

In post 2931, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 1.14
catboi
(6) | MegAzumarill, Mathblade, Flavor Leaf, tictac, Nero Cain,
Toogeloo

Nashville Dreams (5) |
Ydrasse
,
butterchurn
, Save The Dragons, Cat Scratch Fever, Dunnstral

Mathblade (3) | Nashville Dreams, cassowary, bnuuy

tictac (2) |
catboi
, Menalque

Flavor Leaf (1) | Klick
Save The Dragons (1) | The Keeper
Dunnstral (1) | Sword of Ducks
The Keeper (1) |
MalcolmTucker

Nero Cain (1) | SCP 682

Not Voting |
Enchant
,
mastina

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 09:41:00).[/color]

In post 3082, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 1.15Nashville Dreams (7) |
Ydrasse
,
butterchurn
, Save The Dragons, Dunnstral,
catboi
,
Toogeloo
, Cat Scratch Fever

catboi
(4) | Mathblade, Flavor Leaf, tictac, Nero Cain

Mathblade (3) | Nashville Dreams, cassowary, bnuuy

tictac (1) | Menalque
Save The Dragons (1) | The Keeper
Dunnstral (1) | Sword of Ducks
The Keeper (1) |
MalcolmTucker

Toogeloo
(1) | Klick

Enchant
(1) | SCP 682

Not Voting |
Enchant
,
mastina
, MegAzumarill

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 09:41:00).[/color]

In post 3693, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 1.18Nashville Dreams (7) |
Ydrasse
,
butterchurn
, Dunnstral,
catboi
, Cat Scratch Fever, cassowary, Save The Dragons

bnuuy (4) |
mastina
, Klick, Menalque, SCP 682

catboi
(3) | Mathblade, Nero Cain, Flavor Leaf

Cat Scratch Fever (1) | Nashville Dreams
Mathblade (1) | bnuuy
Save The Dragons (1) | The Keeper
Dunnstral (1) | Sword of Ducks

Enchant
(1) | tictac

mastina
(1) |
Toogeloo

Not Voting |
Enchant
, MegAzumarill,
MalcolmTucker

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 09:41:00).[/color]

In post 3833, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 1.19bnuuy (7) |
mastina
, Klick, Menalque, SCP 682, Save The Dragons,
Ydrasse
, cassowary

Nashville Dreams (4) |
butterchurn
, Dunnstral,
catboi
, Cat Scratch Fever

catboi
(3) | Mathblade, Nero Cain, Flavor Leaf

Cat Scratch Fever (1) | Nashville Dreams
Mathblade (1) | bnuuy
Save The Dragons (1) | The Keeper
Dunnstral (1) | Sword of Ducks

Enchant
(1) | tictac

mastina
(1) |
Toogeloo

Not Voting |
Enchant
, MegAzumarill,
MalcolmTucker

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 09:41:00).[/color]

In post 4081, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 1.20bnuuy (9) |
mastina
, Klick, Menalque, SCP 682, Save The Dragons,
Ydrasse
, cassowary,
catboi
,
butterchurn

Nashville Dreams (2) | Dunnstral, Cat Scratch Fever

catboi
(2) | Mathblade, Nero Cain

Cat Scratch Fever (1) | Nashville Dreams
Mathblade (1) | bnuuy
Save The Dragons (1) | The Keeper
Dunnstral (1) | Sword of Ducks

Enchant
(1) | tictac

mastina
(1) |
Toogeloo

Not Voting |
Enchant
, MegAzumarill,
MalcolmTucker
, Flavor Leaf

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 09:41:00).[/color]

In post 4257, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 1.21tictac (6) | SCP 682,
Ydrasse
, Nashville Dreams, Flavor Leaf, Save The Dragons,
butterchurn

bnuuy (5) |
mastina
, Klick, Menalque, cassowary,
catboi

Nashville Dreams (2) | Dunnstral, Cat Scratch Fever

catboi
(2) | Mathblade, Nero Cain

Mathblade (1) | bnuuy
Save The Dragons (1) | The Keeper
Ydrasee (1) | Sword of Ducks

Enchant
(1) | tictac

mastina
(1) |
Toogeloo

Not Voting |
Enchant
, MegAzumarill,
MalcolmTucker

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 09:41:00).[/color]

In post 4555, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 1.22
Toogeloo
(7) | SCP 682,
Ydrasse
, Menalque,
butterchurn
, tictac,
catboi
, Save The Dragons

tictac (4) | Nashville Dreams, Dunnstral, Mathblade, Cat Scratch Fever

bnuuy (3) |
mastina
, Klick, cassowary

catboi
(1) | Flavor Leaf
Mathblade (1) | bnuuy
Save The Dragons (1) | The Keeper

butterchurn
(1) | Nero Cain

Ydrasse
(1) | Sword of Ducks

mastina
(1) |
Toogeloo

Not Voting |
Enchant
, MegAzumarill,
MalcolmTucker

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 09:41:00).[/color]

In post 5186, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 1.23
Toogeloo
(10) | SCP 682,
Ydrasse
, Menalque,
butterchurn
, tictac,
catboi
,
mastina
, Klick, Sword of Ducks, Save The Dragons

catboi
(6) | Mathblade, Nero Cain, Nashville Dreams, Flavor Leaf,
Toogeloo
, Cat Scratch Fever

Mathblade (2) | bnuuy, The Keeper

The Keeper (1) |
Enchant

Flavor Leaf (1) | Dunnstral

Not Voting | MegAzumarill,
MalcolmTucker
, cassowary

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 09:41:00).[/color]

In post 5239, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 1.F
Toogeloo
(12) | SCP 682,
Ydrasse
, Menalque,
butterchurn
, tictac,
catboi
,
mastina
, Sword of Ducks, Save The Dragons, bnuuy, cassowary, Nashville Dreams

catboi
(5) | Mathblade, Nero Cain, Flavor Leaf,
Toogeloo
, Cat Scratch Fever

Flavor Leaf (2) | Dunnstral, Klick

The Keeper (1) |
Enchant

Mathblade (1) | The Keeper

Not Voting | MegAzumarill,
MalcolmTucker

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 09:41:00).[/color]

Double checking the VC now.

There's one formatting error in the first set but I really don't give a damn. I've been formatting all day.

Nashville Dreams · Post Post #8220 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 9:44 am

In post 2, Cephrir wrote:This game features two scum factions. Their win conditions are not compatible to allow a joint win, and there is no such thing in this game as a draw between only certain factions. There is also a single third party role called the malefactor. Its win condition is "You win when the town loses." This player is not informed of any antitown players' identities, nor vice versa.

Nashville Dreams · Post Post #8221 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 10:11 am

For this and all VCAs, I refer to players by their current slot holder because I'm look at the data like that. If there's a question regarding replacement times and identities, feel free to ask but this VCA is intended to be in the absence of context. I can't divorce context completely though.

Day One VCA -

Wolves

The first handful of VCs don't tell us much about Wolves. Nero Cain and Sword of Ducks pick up some points for not being wolves due to their early presence on the catboi wagon while MonkeyMan aka Math's slot had steam (barring the scenario where they are both wolves.)
In 1.7, Nero is promoted as a counterwagon to catboi briefly. catboi is on the wagon, so I'm not sure if wolves would overload but that suggests that Nero Cain is not a wolf.
1.12, I would expect, based on the votes at this point, a wolf within StD and CSF. However, that's impossible given StD is a monk and CSF is currently a "wolf innocent child" (for lack of a better phrase).
1.14, Dunn is a great wolf candidate.
Later, the bnuuy wagon is weird. Mastina starts a counterwagon when there's no need to do so. It dissolves my wagon and serves as a counter to catboi. This one the wolves likely jumped more on with Klick Melanque and cassoway all being possible wolf suspects. It does suggest if the wolf suspect(s) are correct that I served a use to the wolves or they were inactive during the time my wagon was actually a viable push/game stalled.
1.20 suggest bnuuy town due to catboi and butterchurn on towards the end when they had no interest in ending the day before.
1.21 suggests the same for tictac. Butterchurn has extra incentive to vote there given tictac is a claimed mason.

Overall: We have the following slots, divorced from context, that I feel relatively confident saying are not wolves: Nero Cain, bnuuy, tictac, Sword of Ducks

Butterchurn's votes today are largely excluded. I pressured Butter repeatedly on his votes day 1 and they were transparently trying to save catboi. It's a safe bet that they were pretty confident on catboi being scum and willing to vote anyone else. This matches with his hostility towards me the moment I wanted to vote catboi.

Day One VCA -

Mafia

The Wolf VCA is incorporated by reference.
Mathblade's slot would be interesting to flip for knowledge on the slot. The wagon in 1.3 looks relatively pure. From 1.3 to 1.6 all living monks jumped onto counterwagons to Mathblade and fast. Mathblade's slot also jumped onto MalcolmTucker, the first counterwagon available and it flipped green.
SCP gets a weak clear for 1.15-1.18 as they quickly voted Enchant but then they bailed on it to vote with mastina on bnuuy. If SCP is mafia, then we can conclude at least a) I was an asset to mafia and/or b) bnuuy was a threat.
Regardless, mastina's awakening and push on bnuuy suggests bnuuy is not mafia. Given the VCA suggests bnuuy is not a wolf and not a mafia, they are likely town.

TLDR
Nero- Not Wolf
SoD - Not Wolf
tictac - Not Wolf
Dunn - Good Wolf Candidate
bunny - Town by excluding wolf and mafia
SCP - Weak not mafia lean
Klick, cassoway, Melanque - Weak Wolf Suspicions

Nashville Dreams · Post Post #8222 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 10:14 am

Spoiler: Day 2 VCs - Non Formatted Because Titus is tired

In post 5458, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 2.1
Flavor Leaf (5) | MonkeyMan576, Klick, tictac, Dunnstral, cassowary

MonkeyMan576 (2) | SCP 682, The Keeper
MegAzumarill (2) | Nero Cain, Nashville Dreams
Nashville Dreams (2) | butterchurn, Enchant

Not Voting | Cat Scratch Fever, Save The Dragons, Sword of Ducks, MegAzumarill, MalcolmTucker, bnuuy, mastina, Flavor Leaf, Menalque, Ydrasse

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-20 20:06:00).

In post 5707, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 2.2
Flavor Leaf (4) | Klick, tictac, Dunnstral, SCP 682
MegAzumarill (4) | Nashville Dreams, Flavor Leaf, Nero Cain, MonkeyMan576

MonkeyMan576 (2) | The Keeper, cassowary
Nashville Dreams (2) | butterchurn, Enchant

Nero Cain (1) | Save The Dragons
Klick (1) | Cat Scratch Fever
Nashville Dreams (1) | MegAzumarill

Not Voting | Sword of Ducks, MalcolmTucker, bnuuy, mastina, Menalque, Ydrasse

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-20 20:06:00).

In post 5919, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 2.3
Flavor Leaf (4) | Klick, tictac, Dunnstral, cassowary

Cat Scratch Fever (3) | SCP 682, Save The Dragons, Flavor Leaf
Nashville Dreams (3) | butterchurn, Enchant, Cat Scratch Fever

SCP 682 (2) | Sword of Ducks, MonkeyMan576
MegAzumarill (3) | Nashville Dreams, Nero Cain

MonkeyMan576 (1) | The Keeper
Menalque (1) | MegAzumarill

Not Voting | MalcolmTucker, bnuuy, mastina, Menalque, Ydrasse

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-20 20:06:00).

In post 5974, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 2.4
Flavor Leaf (8) | Klick, tictac, Dunnstral, cassowary, mastina, MalcolmTucker, Menalque, MonkeyMan576

Cat Scratch Fever (5) | SCP 682, Save The Dragons, Flavor Leaf, Nashville Dreams, bnuuy

Nashville Dreams (3) | butterchurn, Enchant, Cat Scratch Fever

SCP 682 (1) | Sword of Ducks
MegAzumarill (1) | Nero Cain

MonkeyMan576 (1) | The Keeper
Menalque (1) | MegAzumarill

Not Voting | Ydrasse

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-20 20:06:00).

In post 5975, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 2.4
Flavor Leaf (8) | Klick, tictac, Dunnstral, cassowary, mastina, MalcolmTucker, Menalque, MonkeyMan576

Cat Scratch Fever (5) | SCP 682, Save The Dragons, Flavor Leaf, Nashville Dreams, bnuuy

Nashville Dreams (3) | butterchurn, Enchant, Cat Scratch Fever

SCP 682 (1) | Sword of Ducks
MegAzumarill (1) | Nero Cain

MonkeyMan576 (1) | The Keeper
Menalque (1) | MegAzumarill

Not Voting | Ydrasse

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-20 20:06:00).

In post 6148, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 2.5
Cat Scratch Fever (6) | Flavor Leaf, Nashville Dreams, bnuuy, tictac, Ydrasse, Save The Dragons

Flavor Leaf (5) | Klick, Dunnstral, mastina, Menalque, MonkeyMan576

Nashville Dreams (3) | butterchurn, Enchant, Cat Scratch Fever

SCP 682 (1) | Sword of Ducks
butterchurn (1) | Nero Cain
MonkeyMan576 (1) | The Keeper
MalcolmTucker (1) | SCP 682
Menalque (1) | MegAzumarill
bnuuy (1) | cassowary

Not Voting | MalcolmTucker

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-20 20:06:00).

In post 6339, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 2.6
Cat Scratch Fever (7) | Flavor Leaf, Nashville Dreams, bnuuy, tictac, Ydrasse, Save The Dragons, Menalque

Flavor Leaf (5) | Klick, Dunnstral, mastina, MonkeyMan576, Cat Scratch Fever

Nashville Dreams (3) | butterchurn, Enchant, MegAzumarill

butterchurn (1) | SCP 682
MonkeyMan576 (1) | The Keeper
bnuuy (1) | cassowary
Dunnstral (1) | Nero Cain
Menalque (1) | Sword of Ducks

Not Voting | MalcolmTucker

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-20 20:06:00).

In post 6487, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 2.7
Cat Scratch Fever (5) | Flavor Leaf, bnuuy, tictac, Ydrasse, Menalque
Dunnstral (5) | Nero Cain, Nashville Dreams, SCP 682, cassowary, Save The Dragons

Flavor Leaf (4) | Klick, Dunnstral, mastina, Cat Scratch Fever

Nashville Dreams (3) | butterchurn, Enchant, MegAzumarill

Menalque (2) | Sword of Ducks, MonkeyMan576

MonkeyMan576 (1) | The Keeper

Not Voting | MalcolmTucker

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-20 20:06:00).

In post 6630, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 2.8
Dunnstral (7) | Nero Cain, Nashville Dreams, SCP 682, cassowary, Save The Dragons, MonkeyMan576, bnuuy

Cat Scratch Fever (4) | Flavor Leaf, tictac, Ydrasse, Menalque

Flavor Leaf (3) | Klick, Dunnstral, mastina
Nashville Dreams (3) | butterchurn, Enchant, MegAzumarill

Ydrasse (2) | The Keeper, Cat Scratch Fever

Menalque (1) | Sword of Ducks
Nero Cain (1) | MalcolmTucker

Not Voting |

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-20 20:06:00).

In post 6856, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 2.9
Dunnstral (7) | Nero Cain, Nashville Dreams, SCP 682, cassowary, MonkeyMan576, bnuuy, Ydrasse

Nashville Dreams (4) | butterchurn, Enchant, MegAzumarill, Save The Dragons

Cat Scratch Fever (3) | Flavor Leaf, tictac, Menalque
Flavor Leaf (3) | Klick, Dunnstral, mastina

Ydrasse (2) | The Keeper, Cat Scratch Fever

Menalque (1) | Sword of Ducks
Nero Cain (1) | MalcolmTucker

Not Voting |

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-20 20:06:00).

In post 6950, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 2.10
Dunnstral (7) | Nero Cain, Nashville Dreams, SCP 682, cassowary, MonkeyMan576, bnuuy, Ydrasse

Nashville Dreams (6) | butterchurn, Enchant, MegAzumarill, Save The Dragons, Dunnstral, Cat Scratch Fever

Cat Scratch Fever (3) | Flavor Leaf, tictac, Menalque

Flavor Leaf (1) | mastina
Ydrasse (1) | The Keeper
Menalque (1) | Sword of Ducks
cassowary (1) | MalcolmTucker
Enchant (1) | Klick

Not Voting |

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-20 20:06:00).

In post 7065, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 2.11
MalcolmTucker (6) | Nero Cain, mastina, Save The Dragons, Klick, Nashville Dreams, MonkeyMan576

Dunnstral (5) | SCP 682, cassowary, bnuuy, Ydrasse, Flavor Leaf
Nashville Dreams (5) | butterchurn, Enchant, MegAzumarill, Dunnstral, Cat Scratch Fever

Cat Scratch Fever (2) | tictac, Menalque

Ydrasse (1) | The Keeper
Menalque (1) | Sword of Ducks
cassowary (1) | MalcolmTucker

Not Voting |

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-20 20:06:00).

In post 7196, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 2.12
MalcolmTucker (9) | Nero Cain, mastina, Save The Dragons, Klick, Nashville Dreams, MonkeyMan576, SCP 682, Ydrasse, tictac

Nashville Dreams (4) | butterchurn, Enchant, MegAzumarill, Cat Scratch Fever

Dunnstral (3) | cassowary, bnuuy, Flavor Leaf

Cat Scratch Fever (1) | Menalque
Ydrasse (1) | The Keeper
Menalque (1) | Sword of Ducks
cassowary (1) | MalcolmTucker
bnuuy (1) | Dunnstral

Not Voting |

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-20 20:06:00).

In post 7248, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 2.F
MalcolmTucker (11) | Nero Cain, mastina, Save The Dragons, Klick, Nashville Dreams, MonkeyMan576, SCP 682, Ydrasse, tictac, Sword of Ducks, Enchant

Nashville Dreams (3) | butterchurn, MegAzumarill, Cat Scratch Fever
Dunnstral (3) | cassowary, bnuuy, Flavor Leaf

Cat Scratch Fever (1) | Menalque
Ydrasse (1) | The Keeper
cassowary (1) | MalcolmTucker
bnuuy (1) | Dunnstral

Not Voting |

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Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-20 20:06:00).

Nashville Dreams · Post Post #8223 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 10:24 am

Day 2 -

Wolves

With no wolves flipped, it's too many assumptions to gather at this time.

Day 2 -

Mafia

mastina's vote on Flavor Leaf makes it less likely that Flavor is scum, unless the voting was staged.
If anyone has any doubt about me being mafia, Enchant's sole pre-end of day voting is on me along with Butterchurn.

Day 2 - General Hunting
2.2 - I still feel Meg has a strong chance of flipping scum, but I now realize that's not the best strategic play. The wagon, aside from Math's slot, is pretty pure there too.
Flavor Leaf, CSF and Dunnstral are good flips, based on VCA alone. I still think Flavor is town and a horrible flip mechanically. CSF, for today, is also a horrible flip.
CSF also having a not wolf clear on day 3 is a bit odd given that they were just run up.
Dunnstral needs to flip to explain the EoD here.

TDLR
Day 2 is juicy for the future. It only realistically clears me of being mafia for now, but with so many high level wagons that stalled, there's a lot of room here.

Nashville Dreams · Post Post #8224 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 10:25 am

Disagree? Agree? Thoughts Math?