I've had this problem a few times - "Why are you being so defensive/if you were town you'd have the scumteam solved and be furiously pushing your scumreads" etc. I like defending myself, especially when people aren't pushing me for good reasons (imo of course). If we all ignored people's pushes on us and attacked someone else instead, the game would be pretty chaotic.In post 318, Radical Rat wrote:To address this point, and also Flea's request for more than "too defensive,"In post 304, furtiveglance wrote:they voted me based on their own mistake which they admitted, but then are clinging to scumreading me because my reaction was apparently 'weird'. great.
It's just the defensiveness alone, it's the nature of the defense. Like, you start out with just blatant OMGUS, and only very recently started to branch out from that. It felt like you were more concerned with getting people off of you than onto scum, and that's a strange attitude for Town to have so early on with only a couple votes actually on you.
That, and the way you approached the no lim, framing analysis of a potential elimination as useless because both alignments vote both ways sometimes. Which is true, but if that really made analysis useless Mafia as a game wouldn't really work. Everyone else seemed to agree that it would be useful, just not worth the numbers disadvantage, which I think iswrong,but makes sense. Saying nothing matters and there's no useable information to be gleaned feels like an attempt to stoke apathy and discourage pressure and scumhunting.
As for your actual points - my initial apprehension was towards people pushing hard for an elimination. It only happened to be omgus because they were pushing my elimination.
As for the idea that if we miscondemned twice today, the votecounts would somehow starkly reveal the scumteam, it's really naive and almost indefensible for me. Using the extra elimination would most likely end up with two dead town. I stand by this. I haven't discouraged pressure and scumhunting at all, I've been open with reads and tried to create discussion.
