Mafia 86 - mafia.gif - Game Over!

[curiouskarmadog]

my question was are we done with 3..or is there 4? Dead ran a two teams of 3 game before, but it was not a cross kill and no SK...if each team had 4, does that balance?

[armlx]

5/12 is almost 50% scum... pretty high. I think we are done with 3, but 4 isn't impossible, though it would require pretty much every townie alive to be a power role. Talk about swingy.

[ShadowGirl]

Another good night for town. Though, there seems to be a lot of factions. x_x

[Tarhalindur]

*facepalm*... Avenge me, my brothers!

Go town!

[BlakAdder]

Well, awesome night for the town. Going to go back and reread the dead players. Also, I would believe the Japanese Mafia is gone, but playstyle should not be altered either way. We'll see whether or not they're still alive tonight.

[BlakAdder]

Okay, the dead mafia posted jack squat.
Sekinj was the only one I found vaguely interesting in the fact that all she did was attack the player that eventually lead to the lynch.
Half of Elektra's posts were agreeing with what Ooba was saying at the time, while adding very little thought, though this alone is not enough to make me think that their is a connection.
I got absolutely nothing from GhostWriter.
So, I'll wait and see what happens for now.

[Sierra]

4 kills.. 0_0

armlx's theory on the setup sounds plausible enough. I'll have time to reread Wednesday, so you'll hear more from me then.

[Jebus]

5/12 is almost 50% scum... pretty high. I think we are done with 3, but 4 isn't impossible, though it would require pretty much every townie alive to be a power role. Talk about swingy.

Wrong. Two mafia of 3-4 can be like one mafia of two people, since there's a moderate chance the two mafias will kill each other.

@sekinj's 'bah' post - This means there'r more Yakuza. Probably one more left to wipe off the faction.

[armlx]

Wrong. Two mafia of 3-4 can be like one mafia of two people, since there's a moderate chance the two mafias will kill each other.

What?

No. Mafia A would have 3-4 people. B would have 3-4 people.....

Unless that isn't your intent....

I honestly don't understand what your point is.

[Erratus Apathos]

Vote: Rush

for active lurking mainly, but I'd also like to see him expound on this:

I'd like to see the suspicion spread out a little bit. there is too much uniformity on ba which makes me think lynching him would be a mistake.

There was relatively more "uniformity" on Empking (8 votes) when you voted him than there was on BlakAdder (6 votes) when you said this. Why did the uniformity on BA make you think it was a mistake, but not the uniformity on Emp?

[skitzer]

OK, I'm sorry for not posting a lot in Day 2, but Empking fails.

[farside22]

Okay I finished page 10 and need a break, but I want to address some issues I have already.

01- skitzer - his random vote with nothing said and quick unvote when questioned about it is suspect. post 180 I think this says nothing about anyone. You made comments about what people said but have not scum suspects in this post. In short a post to post. post 188 why Ku_F?
03- Seraphim - post 97 well gee how do you play mafia if you don't discuss and why sign up for a large game if you aren't comfortable with large group discussions? Post 206 where in the world did you get that blakadder hammered?
06- Erratus Apathos - post 28 BW page two already? Post 245 how was ckd using chainsaw defense?
07- curiouskarmadog - post 69 I see ckd has a reason for not this, but why single out cybele over others mentioned?
08- Ku_F - post 133 uses lot of sarcasm when Stef is being looked at for his smily use. (I notice sek did the same thing). Post 147 I don't get who's side Ku-F is on at this point. He doesn't really say anything here.
14- Jebus - post by jebus day cop comment. Now with tar coming up town this looks highly suspect even if it is a joke.
18- massive - post 46 out of all the strange names why sekinj?
19- ShadowGirl - Post 194 agin I feel like a person just posting to post without really adding to the conversation here. post 232 why are you not voting anyone at this point?
20- Rush - newbie who is lost in the game. (just saying)
23- Sierra - post 128> I don't like the way sierra wants to stand back instead of giving pressure to Stef. Vote for Sera is poor reason in comparison to other stuff going on. Post 161. Please sitting back and waiting to see what others say and do is scummy.
24- BlakAdder - post 205 I really dislike when people who have been away add nothing and say well it's already been said for me. Grrrr. Wait how is pop and stef even related as scum pair? (post 214) Post 239 can you show where tajo was trying to take pressure off stef and why you felt that was a big deal?

I will either finish my read today or tomorrow depending on somethings.

[skitzer]

At that time, Ku_F was acting funny, but I need to reread most of Day 2 still.

[ShadowGirl]

@Post 232: Because I didn't believe tajo to be scum - erratic townie, yes, which is why I wasn't voting him.

[farside22]

@Post 232: Because I didn't believe tajo to be scum - erratic townie, yes, which is why I wasn't voting him.

I understand that, but you weren't voting for anyone or even really making a case on anyone during that time.

[ShadowGirl]

I believe I've already admitted I wasn't really participating that much in the first day.

Anyway, I didn't really have any strong suspicions against anyone at that point - being a newbie, I wasn't sure if Stef's play was just not quite streamlined and just being hostile.

[Jebus]

Wrong. Two mafia of 3-4 can be like one mafia of two people, since there's a moderate chance the two mafias will kill each other.

What?

No. Mafia A would have 3-4 people. B would have 3-4 people.....

Unless that isn't your intent....

I honestly don't understand what your point is.

Mafia A has 3-4 people. Mafia B has the same. There are 15 people overall. So about 6-8/15 are scum. This can still be a balanced setup, since two mafias have a decent chance of killing each other. So we may well be looking at 3-5 scum left.

[farside22]

Okay, I'm beat now. I'm at page 18 and I need a break for the day on this read. Just a few things from where I left off.
03- Seraphim - post 326 how do you know who killed who with all that went down?
06- Erratus Apathos - post 394 there is so much more going on I don't get this vote. So far unimpressed.
07- curiouskarmadog - post 253 why do you keep voting for cybele if you are suspicious of others? Post 290. Just a point of something I want to keep an eye one. Not that tajo is a newb, but I saw a newb claim doc and scum hammer him then later claim doc themselves. So far no scum vibes are anything negative coming from CKD, but something I am always wary of since it happened.
11- TheSweatpantsNinja - Post 406. EA wasn't the only one to dismiss the BA case sek dismissed it as well.
12- farside22 (DynamoXI)
20- Rush - post 349 is that a vote for CKD? Post 377. Not sure if you are reading the game or just a newb lost at this point.

Wow look post 353 I see a dead scum (sek) defending blakadder. Weeeeee
tar's post 331: I know tar pushed some very interesting point on BA, haschel, emp, electra (mafia), sera, skitzer and sierra. Good post and seriously something I will be looking at with his death.

I would be voting Blak at this point, but I don't know if anything has changed since then so

FOS: BlakAdder

for now

[Seraphim]

Sorry. Almost forgot about this game.

I think I should address some points.

First, my bad. Got this confused with another game. Next, I'm getting in my stride here. Frankly, I think this game hasn't been going very good for me. I'm aiming for a reread when I have time.

Next, it was just a guess. I thought it was very clear that there was two families by the fact that one family was labeled. This turned out to be very correct. I'll read the thread, definitely, and try to glean some new insights.

[armlx]

Wrong. Two mafia of 3-4 can be like one mafia of two people, since there's a moderate chance the two mafias will kill each other.

I'm talking at the start of the game with 24 alive. You are talking now.

[curiouskarmadog]

have not had time to read yet...I do remember part of my BA case was based on interactions with Stef...but 3 of that "team" is dead...anyway...will have to go back and look.

I also remember that sek (scum) also made a point about me hammering, before the alignment of Pop was discovered...along with Stef (scum) and Emp (town)...there might have been one more, I need to check.

[farside22]

Finally done. Good I won't even comment on how bad empking played day 2 that was terrible.
Last comments here.


Seraphim - post 514 feels like someone trying to protect someone they know will turn out town. Also was the Jester comment really necessary?

Fine. You know what? You can lynch me next round; I don't care. He could be Jester; I don't care. I'll deal with that next day. For now, I think I speak for the majority when I say

Vote: Empking

Tar, just remember, this was your idea. If he isn't a jester, he's definitely scum. If he turns up town, I guess the joke's on me, then.

You know if tar was alive this would look like someone trying to place the blame on him for the lynch

So looking at the past 2 days and what happened and sek's bah post I lean on one more person as part of that faction and I think that person is BA. If you look back you see sek defending BA and putting pressure on Empking.

vote: blakadder
Fos: Seraphim, ShadowGirl and Sierra

Sera for the above
SG for really hanging back and having no opinion of her own. Active lurkering without saying anything.
Sierra for post 128 and post 161

[armlx]

Defending stef, defended by other one of that mafia groups.

This seems too obvious.

Vote BA

[massive]

I ... wait, how is it that we haven't won yet? Geezus.

This game is ringing up more dead scum than Elliot Ness.

[curiouskarmadog]

^^^ 6 posts.

3 about random voting
1 vote of Pop
1 VLA
1 joke

say massive...contribute..your thoughts on players?

reread thoughts coming.