Invitational 10: 2005-2006. Game over! before 624

[Elias_the_thief]

unvote, vote: DGB

[OhGodMyLife]

Vote Count:

7 to lynch.

Lowell: 3 (Xylthixlm, elvis_knits, bluesoul)
Elias_the_thief: 3 (chamber, pablito, MrBuddyLee)
bluesoul: 2 (CrashTextDummie, Lowell)
DrippingGoofball: 2 (Patrick, Elias_the_thief)
elvis_knits: 1 (DrippingGoofball)

Not Voting: 1 (HackerHuck)

[elvis_knits]

What are you even saying here?

Why do you think my post 1157 was scummy timeliness? It sounds like you think I knew lowell was about to post a soft claim so I posted my evidence first. Only way that would be possible is if me and lowell are scum and can day talk. Do you think the scum can day talk in this game? Or do you KNOW the scum can day talk in this game because you're scum?

Are you insane, or are you just scum? Your scum daytalk insinuation is such a trashy tactic. You don't just sound like scum, you sound like desperate, manipulating scum.

Your sudden enthusiasm for an Ether/Lowell lynch burst into the game like firecrackers. You rushed to re-post some old stuff that you wrote. Considering that Ether didn't participate much, and Lowell just came on board, I'm shocked you haven't been tried, sentenced and lynched within a half a page.

You still are not explaining what you meant by I had "scummy timing." You're clearly insinuating something about my timing should prove I'm scum. If I'm wrong, why won't you explain what you meant?

unvote; vote DGB

[elvis_knits]

MBL, please stop derailing wagons when people fart out soft claims.

...says the player who flat out refused to claim.

So?

Soft claiming is far scummier than refusing to claim.

[chamber]

MBL, please stop derailing wagons when people fart out soft claims.

...says the player who flat out refused to claim.

So?

Soft claiming is far scummier than refusing to claim.

Says who?

[elvis_knits]

Me.

[Xylthixlm]

I will be voting Lowell tomorrow unless he full claims then.

unvote Lowell, vote Elias

[DrippingGoofball]

You still are not explaining what you meant by I had "scummy timing." You're clearly insinuating something about my timing should prove I'm scum. If I'm wrong, why won't you explain what you meant?[/b]

Only your death can prove that you're scum.

I did explain it. Maybe you just didn't get it, scumbag. I repeat.

The tiniest bit of momentum towards Ether/Lowell, and bam! You vote Lowell and rehash an old case against Ether and present it again. Considering that Ether didn't post much, was hardly scummy by any reasonable standard, and was just replaced by Lowell, I find that the TIMING of your vote and rehashed case is very scummy indeed.

Do you get it now?

[Lowell]

^^^ this is a good point. Idiots did pile on me quickly.

unvote, vote elvis

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[Xylthixlm]

Advance warning: I will consider anyone not voting one of the top three candidates at deadline to be voting "no lynch", and demand explanations accordingly.

[MrBuddyLee]

I think we've confirmed that Ether/Lowell and elvis are very likely not aligned. If they are scumpartners, she had little incentive to pounce as quickly as she did.

Little oddities have me thinking Lowell, elvis, DGB, Patrick, Huck, chamber are town. If that's the case, then the scumteam lies in:

{elias, CTD, xyl, bluesoul, pablito}.

I'm probably wrong about one of the innocents, but that's where I stand right now, and where you should look tomorrow if I get gassed tonight.

In order, I'd be willing to lynch:

1. elias
2. xyl(CDB/IH)
3. pablito(PJ)
4. bluesoul
5. CTD(bird/Sarc)

[Xylthixlm]

At this point the only person I'm reasonably convinced is town is MrBuddyLee.

[Elias_the_thief]

yay for nonexistant cases leading to lynches. yay for unanswered questions. yay for MBL!

[Xylthixlm]

It seems like every scum who is lynched goes to the gallows convinced the case against them is bullshit and the town just got lucky.

Of course, it also seems like every townie who gets lynched thinks the same thing.

[Elias_the_thief]

Well in the case of your vote, im pretty justified in declaring the case bullshit.

[Xylthixlm]

*sniff* Something smells funny. Kind of ... scum-like. Anyone else smell that?

[Elias_the_thief]

You should wear better deoderant in the future.

[MrBuddyLee]

I'm trying to recall who I've eliminated as scumpairs based on their interactions:

elvis+Lowell
CTD+elias
CTD+bluesoul

I think. There may be more, but I seem to recall those. I think Huck also seemed to be genuinely getting into it with someone as well. And Patrick really seems to be trying to resolve the DGB issue in his brain.

I'm still puzzled as to why elvis brought up an SK earlier today. I was just thinking things through from Patrick's perspective, and I nearly cleared him as scum because he's curious about DGB's alignment. But then I realized that if scum fears an SK, or SK fears scum, then they're ALSO uncertain about everyone's alignment. And elvis was very quick to metagame the fact that there's an SK in another Minvitational.

Bottom line: a lot of my analysis relies on the fact that some people seem uncertain about each others' alignment. If there's an SK in this game, those aspects of my analysis go out the window. And it's curious that elvis brought up an SK--it's a major point that flies in the face of her seeming towniness.

[MrBuddyLee]

Odds of CTD being scumpartners with elias or Huck diminishing rapidly.

Scratch CTD+Huck.

[DrippingGoofball]

And it's curious that elvis brought up an SK--it's a major point that flies in the face of her seeming towniness.

She's some brand of scum.

If it's a major point that flies in the face her seeming townie, why aren't you voting her? I am.

Is it because you're afraid of Xyl, who threatened anyone not voting for the current top contenders? What's your reason? Do you want to keep your buddy alive, but still look good after she turns up scum?

[bluesoul]

You still are not explaining what you meant by I had "scummy timing." You're clearly insinuating something about my timing should prove I'm scum. If I'm wrong, why won't you explain what you meant?[/b]

Only your death can prove that you're scum.

I did explain it. Maybe you just didn't get it, scumbag. I repeat.

The tiniest bit of momentum towards Ether/Lowell, and bam! You vote Lowell and rehash an old case against Ether and present it again. Considering that Ether didn't post much, was hardly scummy by any reasonable standard, and was just replaced by Lowell, I find that the TIMING of your vote and rehashed case is very scummy indeed.

Do you get it now?

^^^ this is a good point. Idiots did pile on me quickly.

unvote, vote elvis

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The only two people voting Elvis are the two people I'm most suspicious of. Given that I find e_k town the evidence of an Ether/Lowell-DGB link increases (the first instance was Ether defending DGB by providing a safeclaim). Combined with CTD on me, a CTD-DGB-Lowell scumteam seems possible.

Unvote, Vote DGB

Unofficial Vote Count: 7 to lynch.

Elias_the_thief: 4 (chamber, pablito, MrBuddyLee, Xylthixlm)
DrippingGoofball: 4 (Patrick, Elias_the_thief, elvis_knits, bluesoul)
elvis_knits: 2 (DrippingGoofball, Lowell)
bluesoul: 1 (CrashTextDummie)

Not Voting: 1 (HackerHuck)

[Xylthixlm]

Is it because you're afraid of Xyl, who threatened anyone not voting for the current top contenders? What's your reason? Do you want to keep your buddy alive, but still look good after she turns up scum?

By my count elvis_knits is one of the top contenders.

[MrBuddyLee]

why aren't you voting her(elvis)? I am.

Is it because you're afraid of Xyl, who threatened anyone not voting for the current top contenders? What's your reason? Do you want to keep your buddy alive, but still look good after she turns up scum?

Now I'm positive you're not reading the game carefully, because xyl JUST said I'm the only person he sees as significantly pro-town. So why the fuck would I be afraid of him?

If you're protown, DGB, please read the damned game more carefully. I typically view carelessness as a scum trait, because scum are disinterested in the actual scumhunt and are just trying to make hay. I keep spotting things like this that make you look scummy in the face of your softclaim, and sooner or later I'm going to decide that I'm wrong about your claim being protown because there's just too much evidence to the contrary.

[MrBuddyLee]

DrippingGoofball

- She's the player who was most focused on, and it's kind of a pain because she's so tough to read. I wasn't impressed by her early game shenanigans (of particular note is her calling for more votes and wagons, while keeping her own vote close to the chest), I wasn't impressed by her implosion and baiting to be lynched, and I certainly wasn't impressed by her analysis, which was obvious BS. This is evidenced by the fact that she pretty much analyzed everyone under the pre-formed decision that e_k is scum, which just doesn't hold any ground as a serious approach. It's not at all surprising to me that she got a lot more offensive once she stopped being poked at. For any other player, this would be an open and shut case, but since it's DGB, I can't be sure. Still, that makes her a decent lynch in my opinion.

I have to reread DGB, but she's certainly not the most likely scum candidate in my mind, so there's a decent chance that lynching her is bad for the town as well

What happened here? Or are those weasel words on Oct. 8th and you never really changed your mind?

I went searching for CTD's thoughts on DGB because I recalled him being quite vocal on elias (and not thinking elias's scum). Sure enough, I found jack-shit DGB analysis from CTD, who is instead marching off into the wilderness attacking bluesoul.

CTD, I will reread your bluesoul case and bluesoul's posts, but the fact that you find our top two lynch candidates to both be likely town boggles me. What are your thoughts on DGB off the top of your head?

I don't think DGB is likely town. I said she's not the most likely scum, because I strongly feel that bluesoul is, and others rank higher on my list of suspicions as well (you, CDB replacement).

I didn't spend much time analyzing DGB, because I think it is a waste of time. I, for one, can't do it. I still don't think she is the best lynch, but it is one I can get behind if interest in bluesoul doesn't pick up. In that case, I'll move my vote to her to avoid a no-lynch.

(several paragraphs attacking bluesoul)

This looks a bit like deflection of a very serious accusation. CTD has spent a lot of time examining the other major candidates (elias, bluesoul, elvis) and none examining DGB. I understand the sentiment that one would find it difficult to analyze her play, but to some extent that's a cop out, AND you could at the least give your impressions of her softclaim. Have you even done that before? (Apologies for being lazy and not looking it up myself.)

I also don't get the sense that you really think I'm scum, considering you never delivered on your promised PBPA of me in time for it to have an effect on this day. If you're in danger of dying overnight, you'd really want to get that on record ASAP.

So maybe you're not feeling the urgency.

[DrippingGoofball]

Now I'm positive you're not reading the game carefully, because xyl JUST said I'm the only person he sees as significantly pro-town. So why the fuck would I be afraid of him?

I did read that, and it did record in my fly brain. That doesn't mean you want to tee him off, and have him change his mind on you, like I did.

This being said you have not answered my question.

Answer please.