I thought your argument with elderad ended up as pretty much a tie.Vi wrote:M-M, your perspective on the objections I raised would be nice, since apparently I was defending you
So are you saying that it's always worthwhile for scum to cop-gambit no matter what the setup is?JDodge wrote:Run numbers. See what each setup says for 2 mafia goons, and goon-RB. I think under the goon-RB setup it would be a worthwhile gambit for the scum. Same under 2 goons. You're also underestimating the power of outing the cop in either of those setups, not to mention that the 1-in-7 possibility of double-cop would discourage a cop counter-claim plus make the cop fakeclaim a lot more tempting for the scum.
So after my reread here is my updated suspicion list from most to least with comments:
Elderad - In addition to actions of his predecessor, I find the timing of elderad's votes on afatchic and charter to be troubling, more so for afatchic. In both cases it seemed like he tries to get his feet wet in expressing suspicions and then pounces with votes when the suspicion for both had increased to levels that make his votes look better.
JDodge - I consider the avoidance-of-game-while-very-active-elsewhere scumtell to be quite reliable. I eagerly await his promised expanded case on afatchic.
afatchic - I can buy some aspects of the lack-of-scumhunting case against him, especially since he kept breaking his promises for scumhunting contribution even though he had the time to post many times about smaller matters.
charter - Although I don't agree with it, charter's stance on afatchic is understandable. I actually think the recent instances of frustration in his posts is a town tell.
Vi - Most town tells out of everyone.
Moospiker - Cop claim still very solid. However is currently on a worrying trend of making non-contributive and unhelpful posts (e.g. 226, 249, 268, 270, 273).