Silent Star 4: Yin and Yang

[Flea The Magician]

i know i’m the guy that said DONT LET FLEA GET A FOOTHOLD but here i am

No, don't, make me work for it.

[Flea The Magician]

Can I vote ydrasse or we're going to use the rest of the time?

You need to answer me your solve or point me to where you put it.

[Flea The Magician]

oh my brain broke

so chara is defending flea now

Sorry my shield that is sat in my bedroom is defending me more than Chara rn

[Flea The Magician]

if you and clidd are both here you can just hammer test me and then unvote

But the day just started. Why the rush to even do that just yet?

Why not focus on an airtight solve if we can possibly accomplish that?

So, is anyone at all concerned that everyone is sr Chara including whomever’s it’s buddy, because scum can’t win in that case?

No concern over the fact I'm over here on my own? on my own lil isand? where nobody loves me?


... in fairness I did burn that bridge myself. but still.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if ydra flips red I want to use my lucky dice to figure out who the last scum is

[Flea The Magician]

i think at this point the scum plan is probably to drown us in wifom and pray it works

Oh yeah, that's why I sads I didn't roll red here.

[Chara]

Ydrasse has been more towny comparatively and the way she approached a specific angle to read my apathy as ai would be too toxic for scum!Ydrasse (as she would be manipulating my read on her using a personal problem of mine, which I don't think scum!she would be able to do and really don't have a reason to). Occam's razor says that town!Ydrasse explored something that probably scum!Ydrasse would ignore, as re-evaluating me is suicidal for scum.

his Ydrasse read itself isn't terrible, i imagine he's referring to something i don't have context for, i also don't know if scum Ydrasse would do a lot of what she's done this game, though i have seen scum her take the purely ate pocketing angle (rather than one she would have to take this game which would be a lot more negative.)

@clidd when you're back, could you direct me to where in Ydrasse's ISO this happened?

[Flea The Magician]

No idea what is going on with scum, but that's their problem.

I'm pretty sure Ydrasse is town so /shrug.

No it’s also town’s problem because no way doesn’t scum have a strategy here.

Wouldn't surprise me to have scum use my self-destruct as a valid bussing tactic. Now I'm starting to edge my way back... mwahahah.

Chara reads feel hella swingy to me rn and I need to go back over them

[Chara]

oh my brain broke

so chara is defending flea now

Sorry my shield that is sat in my bedroom is defending me more than Chara rn

yeah, i would not say i am defending you. though i do like you in an out of game sense very much still!

[Flea The Magician]

charas flip on me feels so sharp that i genuinely can’t see the town angle and it felt... irritated in a way that i didn’t expect even if i was suspect of it

Yes, that’s what bothers me a lot too, which is why I think Chara/Flea but then Flea completely shot down my Chara frame tin foil theory. \_0_/

Pew pew.

[Flea The Magician]

it does if you didn’t expect someone to actually case you like that?

i had other reasons to think you’re scum but given the similarities in the character feel too much

also knowing that you do like that sort of thing makes it feel like it is you

why wouldn't i expect someone to do that? it was the first thing i thought of to think about, and the first thing you thought of, and Flea.

I do what now?

[Amy Dunne]

if you and clidd are both here you can just hammer test me and then unvote

But the day just started. Why the rush to even do that just yet?

Why not focus on an airtight solve if we can possibly accomplish that?

So, is anyone at all concerned that everyone is sr Chara including whomever’s it’s buddy, because scum can’t win in that case?

No concern over the fact I'm over here on my own? on my own lil isand? where nobody loves me?


... in fairness I did burn that bridge myself. but still.

clidd

my one worry is that it feels like everyone’s pushing flea to be left out which means faes partner is doing it too which would be frankly suicidal

I'm glad someone picked up on that I'm being hard bussed by everyone

Seems like you and Chara have switched places?

[Flea The Magician]

charas flip on me feels so sharp that i genuinely can’t see the town angle and it felt... irritated in a way that i didn’t expect even if i was suspect of it

why is it surprising that i'm going to wonder that you're scum after you say that i'm scum because i like a certain anime? it doesn't make any sense for me to do that if i was scum and i don't understand how this is your argument.

Ydra/Flea/Clidd are all on the scum!you wagon, which if you’re scum, then that’s anti-wincon, so I’m wracking my brain on how a you/? team wins here, since both of you need to get yeeted.

the whole game is calling me scum. i don't see who i'm supposed to be scum with. and i would not put myself through Flea calling me confscum all game based on a mechanic that was invented by scum in the first place. like. why would i do any of the things it's being claimed i am doing?? Ydrasse is proposing this next-level wifom argument when my scumgame has and always has been "take minimal risks and try and look town".

My answer is Clidd
Clidd seem so off at the moment I need to poke him more.
But he's not going to let me I bet >:)

[Flea The Magician]

well we know scum controlled yin

and scum!yin told me that there's a scumbag within Pooky/Norwee/Chara.

and that would get town!me to maybe 1v1 vs Chara.

Now I don't see why the scum would do that if Chara and I are both town? It'd be kind of a disaster for them if I went all in on Chara no?

Hence Chara is a baddie.

Yes I was very drunk last night

also there’s stuff like this lmao

How is this even useful though? We know Yin also called Tanner a criminal?

tanner being called scum doesn’t correlate with the situation pooky presented where early game before the true wincon was released, town v town pooky and chara would advance /town/ wincon if they managed to elim the other

*all hail*

[Chara]

the fact that Ydrasse expects i wouldn't be irritated about being called scum because i like detective conan is still so strange to me. like... yes? it is a little irritating? it's kind of funny now but at the time i was mostly incredulous that she would think i would do that.

pedit: i can agree on clidd scum.

[Chara]

it does if you didn’t expect someone to actually case you like that?

i had other reasons to think you’re scum but given the similarities in the character feel too much

also knowing that you do like that sort of thing makes it feel like it is you

why wouldn't i expect someone to do that? it was the first thing i thought of to think about, and the first thing you thought of, and Flea.

I do what now?

referring to how after Yin flipped you made a comment about trying to find out which player would have been playing Yin.

[Flea The Magician]

if Ydra is scum here then Flea isn't and my read there is wrong. i guess they could be scum together and it's clidd who's town but i'm not sure about that.

Translation: "Sitting on da fence *

Gimma da solve and why. >:)

[Amy Dunne]

well we know scum controlled yin

and scum!yin told me that there's a scumbag within Pooky/Norwee/Chara.

and that would get town!me to maybe 1v1 vs Chara.

Now I don't see why the scum would do that if Chara and I are both town? It'd be kind of a disaster for them if I went all in on Chara no?

Hence Chara is a baddie.

Yes I was very drunk last night

also there’s stuff like this lmao

How is this even useful though? We know Yin also called Tanner a criminal?

tanner being called scum doesn’t correlate with the situation pooky presented where early game before the true wincon was released, town v town pooky and chara would advance /town/ wincon if they managed to elim the other

*all hail*

I totally don’t understand this?

[Amy Dunne]

well we know scum controlled yin

and scum!yin told me that there's a scumbag within Pooky/Norwee/Chara.

and that would get town!me to maybe 1v1 vs Chara.

Now I don't see why the scum would do that if Chara and I are both town? It'd be kind of a disaster for them if I went all in on Chara no?

Hence Chara is a baddie.

Yes I was very drunk last night

also there’s stuff like this lmao

How is this even useful though? We know Yin also called Tanner a criminal?

tanner being called scum doesn’t correlate with the situation pooky presented where early game before the true wincon was released, town v town pooky and chara would advance /town/ wincon if they managed to elim the other

*all hail*

I totally don’t understand this?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i just want ydra to flip town so I can continue my impressive streak of misreading her for the 150th time in a row

[Flea The Magician]

I don't have a case (tired of wallposts), but basically my impressions after a reread are these:

Flea: Pushed for a long time a theory based on inconclusive mechanical elements, directed a huge effort to insist on the push in a theatrical way, didn't take anything out of that, didn't reevaluate, no process that I judge as towny/genuine, posting only got worse after the MT flip. Obvscum.

Chara: Posting in the early days generic, didn't stand out much as towny or scummy during the game until yesterday middle/eod and today where its tonality has deteriorated astronomically. Scumread.

Ydrasse: D1 towny, progression ok, interest to re-evaluate me towny, towny tone and so on. Far above Chara/Flea comparatively.

Solve: Flea/Chara.

You know I love my theatrics. <3

Got worse how? Details!! Proof is in the pud! You even read up fully?

[Flea The Magician]

Ok, let me know when we're going to vote.

I have some games to read.

Ahh yes, minimal effort in this game while other games are provided with adequate effort.

I might actually have to do something I hate doing.

[Chara]

if Ydra is scum here then Flea isn't and my read there is wrong. i guess they could be scum together and it's clidd who's town but i'm not sure about that.

Translation: "Sitting on da fence *

Gimma da solve and why. >:)

i can't give a solve i don't have. clidd i'm most sure of being scum here, which is why i don't think it's you/Ydrasse.

i don't think clidd wrote the Yin posts though, it doesn't seem like his style just based on this game while i could see either Ydra or Flea doing that.

[Flea The Magician]

Amy: what do you think of clidd's tone argument?
i'm definitely more upset than i have been this game, i thought that i didn't need to be townread to win and then find out i do, and now Ydrasse makes this case. and Flea while still scumreading me seems more like fae is actually playing now, even though i expected scum Flea would do that and know fae is perfectly capable of faking reads as scum, it's hard not to think about fae being town when the alternative is clidd or Ydrasse being town. clidd i still think is scum, it's just way, way too convenient that he's now saying my tone is scummy with no further description, at exactly the time he needs to be scumreading me to win.

Hey those reads are genuine, that's the thing

ngl I'm half tinfoiling Ydrasse here.

WHO GAVE ME THIS MUCH DAMN FOIL!?

[Flea The Magician]

i'm trying to be calm about this because we are playing a game and i'm not here to get angry at anyone. yes, wifom exists. does that mean yes, scum engages in wifom they didn't need to do because... why?

i don't understand how Pooky has this read either.

I don’t understand why Pooky quickhammeree when me and Tanner didn’t want to rush the day either but it happened.

Well his “criminal” read thing should be considered invalid since Tanner was town.

However, a Clidd/Ydra team doesn’t seem likely because scum!Clidd would have to know Ydra scumflip would look bad for him.

Now Flea is no longer certain on anyone, which is interesting, so in the hypothetical case of Ydra flipping scum, fae is covered.

Despite tinfoil, if Ydrasse flips red I will be absolutely shocked.