Not Quite Normal -- The Monastery

[Lukewarm]

I don't know that any of us are priority targets currently, but I think that if any of us were to die it would be Shelby??

[Lukewarm]

Thoughts on the accusation of Manatee being partnered with Vecna?

[Lukewarm]

[mastina]

Is anyone worried they are not going to make it through the night?

I mean if any of us three were to get shot it'd be you--I've barely been in the game, Shelby is low-presence, you're the only one who's obvtown, so I'd be shocked if anyone among us died unless it were you.

Sadly, I've no way to prevent a death in here or protect morph who're obviously going to die sooner rather than later.

[mastina]

Thoughts on the accusation of Manatee being partnered with Vecna?

I didn't get a chance to read morph's posts but I didn't understand the pairing with Vecna. I got why Manatee was scum from the case; that was self-apparent and very very obvious. I don't really get why Vecna's a partner from the case though, at least what I saw.

[Lukewarm]

Is anyone worried they are not going to make it through the night?

I mean if any of us three were to get shot it'd be you--I've barely been in the game, Shelby is low-presence, you're the only one who's obvtown, so I'd be shocked if anyone among us died unless it were you.

Sadly, I've no way to prevent a death in here or protect morph who're obviously going to die sooner rather than later.

I feel like Shelby has been out making pushes and stuff.

I think I am pretty widely town read, but also not doing much I don't think?

I feel like I have more been fighting a scum read on Morph, and then when I finally ended up with a town read on them sheeping them lol

[Lukewarm]

Thoughts on the accusation of Manatee being partnered with Vecna?

I didn't get a chance to read morph's posts but I didn't understand the pairing with Vecna. I got why Manatee was scum from the case; that was self-apparent and very very obvious. I don't really get why Vecna's a partner from the case though, at least what I saw.

The perspective slip that Morph accused Manatee of making was specifically when talking about Vecna, so I guess the question is whether you think it really was a perspective slip or not.

I am still a bit unsure, and mainly voted Manatee for their response to the accusation

[Lukewarm]

I am in the middle of going back to look at how other people responded to the Morph accusation, will update you later

[Lukewarm]

Okay, I have sorted the reactions as follows

Loudly against a Manatee vote:
Ythan
The Resistance

Did not seem to like the case, but did not loudly stand up against it:
Vecna
Petapan

The Kazyan tier:
Kazyan

Agree with the case, but in a way that I could see it coming from a partner:
Unwnd
Celestials
Wheme

Agreed with the case in a way that I do not think could come from a partner:
Kakeguri (probably the least certain one on if they should be in their category, or the one above it
Dann
Anya
Pooky
Echo


Mechanically could not partnered with Manatee, all all ended up agreeing with it lol:
Mastina
Shelby
Me <3

[Lukewarm]

The Kazyan tier:
Kazyan

I think his reaction looked the most like a partner tbh.

Started out lightly against it, without saying they were hard against to. Instead seemed to pseudo-shade Morph.

Then when it became clear that Manatee was gonna be the elim, their tone changed a lot, to the point of trying to get someone to hammer it

[Lukewarm]

Sure is dead in here

[Lukewarm]

I have been thinking about something ever since Manatee flipped....I think Manatee's ability will make my ability seem super scummy if I ever have to claim. :/

Like, I know that I probably don't really have to worry about it in the near future, but like if we walking into like day 5 or something, and there is a mass claim....

I have been debating just going ahead and sharing it here to try and preempt that in some way. I guess? Maybe?

Like, is it better for me to say it now, and you guys can back it up that I said it now while under no pressure?

Almost, the same reasoning why a miller claims in their first post I guess?

[Lukewarm]

Anyways, here it goes:

I am also 1-shot bulletproof, and I feel like if I ever claim people are going to assume that means I am actually the mafia mirror to Manatee

Like:

Werewolf

1-shot bulletproof mason <- Manatee

Mafia

. . . 1-shot bulletproof monk . <- What people will now be expecting

Town

. . . 1-shot bulletproof monk . <-

What I am

[Uncle Shelby]

Oh right this is here haha. Woops!

[mastina]

Anyways, here it goes:

I am also 1-shot bulletproof, and I feel like if I ever claim people are going to assume that means I am actually the mafia mirror to Manatee

Like:

Werewolf

1-shot bulletproof mason <- Manatee

Mafia

. . . 1-shot bulletproof monk . <- What people will now be expecting

Town

. . . 1-shot bulletproof monk . <-

What I am

Looks like you need not worry anymore given the mafia 1x bulletproof flipped.

(Presumably, werewolf strongman killed them or bulletproof doesn't apply to the werewolf kill.)

[mastina]

Btw Lukewarm if Cephrir is stubborn about answering (I asked via PM but if he doesn't answer there...), then I'll probably need your help to clarify this because it IS an important distinction. Bulletproof = immune to all nightkills is how things work in Normal games, but it actually makes a huge difference in this game because bulletproof could potentially mean exactly that; immune to bullets, but not to a wolf mauling. Thus the need for clarification.

[Lukewarm]

Well, I am glad you asked because I did not notice that distinction on my role pm.

I looked back, and it does say mafia kill but I kinda assumed I knew what bulletproof meant >.<

[Lukewarm]

The mod's answer to this question was that bulletproof does not apply to the werewolves' factionall kill.

So why was a mafia member bulletproof, then?

A good question that I have my theory about!

One which I won't share with the thread while you're alive since I'm thinking you're scum here.

Want to share the theory in here?

[mastina]

Btw the implication of a mafia bulletproof is, obviously, that we have a town vig (who also uses bullets)--that doesn't guarantee we have a town vig, obviously; it could be pure sheer wifom spawned from mod rng of sorts where the mod randomly made some players bulletproof and one of the bp players just so happened to be mafia, no vig needed. But if the bulletproof

were

to have a function, protecting against a vig is the obvious conclusion.

I said I wouldn't be sharing publicly but sharing in here, I feel more than free to given that if you're scum you're mafia anyway and you'd already be able to reach these conclusions on your own.
(That, and I think you're town anyway.)

[Lukewarm]

Based on how my ability is worded, I do not think it would protect from a vigilante kill.

[Lukewarm]

So, I think that it is actually more that the abilities were assigned with a random element (which Ceph actually said in the op)

[Lukewarm]

they thought that mastina might be werewolf

hey, I think morph might be wrong about this one

[mastina]

Yup.

[mastina]

I apologize for laying it on thick inthread and basically guaranteeing that the werewolves shoot me sooner rather than later.

Suffice to say, I've signaled as clearly as is humanly possible to Celestial Powerhouse "I AM A MONK DAMMIT".

So clearly, that I probably die soon, very soon.

We should probably set up some sort of confirmation method for Shelby--Lukewarm is universally townread, and I'm broadcasting blatantly that I am a monk to the whole world, but Shelby is mostly in the null, here, so we need something Shelby can say that proves that Shelby is our third here in case we both die soon.

[Lukewarm]

Yeah, I don't think anyone currently doubts you are a monk lol