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What, aren't doped up twelve year olds amusing to watch?massive wrote:I don't think random voting is bad. I think random voting is a necessary and vital part of Day One. I used to have this big long thing I'd post in Newbie games about why random voting was good. But I think five pages may be excessive. It's like watching twelve-year-olds all doped up on Red Bull and Smarties.
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Avatar should have no bearing on serious voting.
I don't think anything should be excused even if he is a new player. We can take into account that he is one, but that doesn't mean we should overlook scumtells.
@Stef: But I do think you should get a bit thicker skin, because you will encounter people who will not be quite so courteous. People will insult you, and you just have to deal with it.-
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Unvote.Since my vote on Seraphim was placed during the random vote stage and we are past that now.
QFT. If he's town and playing scummy, then we should call him on it. We learn from our mistakes, and if we just let it slide he's never going to learn.armlx wrote:He can be a newbie. He can also be newbie scum.
@Skitzer: Ha ha, yes indeed. Though, I suppose if he's not used to that sort of thing that it isn't that strange for him to be a tad hostile.
Anyway, I'm taking Tajo's 'vanilla claim' and Seraphim not wanting to participate in random voting as null tells, as is Stef's joking statement of wanting to be lynched or a very weak scumtell.
Still, I find Tajo defending him rather odd and slightly scummy.-
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I was liking your post until this. You seem to be trying to deflect attention back to Stef.Tajo wrote:And if someone should be lynched it must be him and not me because what I did (as some people call "defending" HAS ZERO MOTIVATION as scum.
Easy on the caps, Taj. And scum wouldn't do that is WIFOM. and once again you say:
As if you're completely fine with Stef getting lynched. And really, I'm more suspicious of you then I am of him.Tajo wrote:If you think scum defending scumpartner, then the person you should voting is him, not me.
A claim? Isn't it a bit early for a claim? :/ I also go by L-2 being an acceptable time for a claim.ooba wrote:populartajo, posting in caps really does not help. I would like to see a claim ..-
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Awesome night. <3 Wow, this thread moves quick.
Vote: Black Adder
I've been getting minor scum vibes ever since this snippet:
Hn, I think the quick hammer is a null tell at this point.So, vote: populartajo. Since your scumminess relies on the assumption that you and tajo are partners, you'll be partially cleared if tajo flips town.-
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They're supposed to be different - I didn't mean it in such an absolute way.BlakAdder wrote:
That really sounds like the same thing in different words.ShadowGirl wrote:
It wasn't a 'let's lynch BA because there's no better target', but 'if you don't like the current wagon, then make a new one'.armlx wrote:
That's not a really legit argument here. Then again, I don't think sekinj's counter argument is stellar either.@Sekinj: Do you have a better one, then?-
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His scum buddies would know. :/BlakAdder wrote:Okay, I think that we're getting back into an argument about the definition of "cleared". I said on day one that I said that "cleared", to me, meant "not scummy." And, again, Empking, I was in no way trying to prove his innocence. I explained my thought process to CKD in post 340. Also, no one knew that Stef was scum on the first day, so you can't hold that against me.
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My votes showed my opinion. I didn't believe Emp or Tajo were scum. I didn't vote them. I voted BA, who I did believe was scum. My thoughts were already said by those who posted before me.farside wrote:SG for really hanging back and having no opinion of her own. Active lurkering without saying anything.
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But it's only a random vote? I could very well just use any other reason to vote someone - but there's no bearing upon it.Post 4-5 - ShadowGirl: I don't like diceroll random votes. Too easy to not claim responsibility for actions.
How am I defending him? It was clearly a non serious vote.Post 98 - ShadowGirl: Defending Stef before he responds, eh? Interesting.
Because I can. It was still random stage voting/discussion.Post 114 - ShadowGirl: This has nothing to do with anything. Why make this post?
Has, I just hope you realize two of the people who you think to be scummy have been lynched already.-
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But isn't flavour not supposed to reveal information the players don't know?massive wrote:vote Seraphim
Yes, I know, being replaced, blah blah blah, but I went back and re-read the night scene and in it, it indicates that Tar tracked the person who killed sekinj. That coupled with the post I quoted (Tar clearly thought Seraphim was scum and ready to lynch him today) makes him a decent candidate to have been tracked.-
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... But I'm not defending anyone.has wrote:Post 153 - ShadowGirl: Still don't like yet another defense of someone else here
Miswording by me - It was random stage when he made the claim. And I believe they were null tells. That's my own opinion. :/has wrote:Post 194 - ShadowGirl: Out of RV for a while, why wait this long to take your vote off? I don't like calling of tajo's claim and stef's statement null-tells
PRs play terribly too. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.has wrote:Post 285 - ShadowGirl: This is a terrible post. Even if he is doc(which I seriously doubt at this point), he lied about it in a really scummy way. Lynch him.-
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I was suspicious of him since day one - not much else I can say on this matter.has wrote:Post 327 - ShadowGirl: I don't like this post. Starts with "awesome night" and then quickly votes a fast-moving wagon.
I'm asking a question, I don't see why I can't do it in a nice tone.has wrote:Post 475 - ShadowGirl: I don't like this either. Seems too nice.
I thought it was odd how he was acting - I thought that he might be a jester, orhas wrote:Post 477 - ShadowGirl: You still haven't taken a stance on him though. Gah.
It's a perfectly valid statement - he was playing akin to that of a jester.has wrote:Post 485 - ShadowGirl: *sigh* I really hate ShadowGirl at this point. Her posts seem to be inane or defenses of other suspicious players.
I don't want an accidental hammer, seeing as how fast the votes were piling on.has wrote:Post 492 - ShadowGirl: So?-
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I would agree with this if I hadn't said it the day before as well.has wrote:Post 552 - ShadowGirl: Again, saying it was a good night. Don't like this.
BlakAdder, as per me voting him early in the day.has wrote:Post 565 - ShadowGirl: You didn't have any strong suspicions, but did you have suspicions?
Both were playing so erraticly and in such a way that would naturally gain them attention that I think it would have been odd for them to be scum. I voted Emp in the end because he was being very, very anti-town. And I don't see how I was defending anyone. :/has wrote:ShadowGirl: Likes to stay out of the spotlight. I don't understand why she was so unwilling to believe tajo and emp were scum. Also, there were a few instances of defending other players that I didn't like.-
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Why does this seem akin to the smiley meta that was mentioned earlier in the game? Anyway, this is not a reason to vote someone on day three.armlx wrote:
This is a winner.NOTE: SG has not done a dice vote in any other game on MS. I find that very interesting.
Vote ShadowGirl
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Perhaps, but that should not be the deciding factor in a vote.hasdgfas wrote:
Note how the smiley meta was correct.ShadowGirl wrote:
Why does this seem akin to the smiley meta that was mentioned earlier in the game? Anyway, this is not a reason to vote someone on day three.armlx wrote:
This is a winner.NOTE: SG has not done a dice vote in any other game on MS. I find that very interesting.
Vote ShadowGirl
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Why isn't it?armlx wrote:Why does this seem akin to the smiley meta that was mentioned earlier in the game? Anyway, this is not a reason to vote someone on day three.
It's a weak meta: as well, I've said also that it shouldn't be the deciding reason to vote.
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It would have been nice if you'd added the post numbers, but anyway...
Is it proven that using the dice for a random vote = scum?Post 0-1: A truly random vote. These always feel a bit off to me for some reason. Something about how you're trying to completely absolve yourself of any responsibility of your vote by making sure people know it's random.
As I've said, I like the dice command and that's why I used it.
I'm not usually terribly deep in random voting stage, sorry.Posts 2-5: All of these are completely inane comments that do absolutely nothing at all.
It was lurker prodding/random vote. What's wrong with that?Post 6: Lurker prodding. Not a terrible thing to do, but the mod can take care of this.
It's terribly obvious it's a joke. :/ I was merely pointing it out.Post 7: I find this to be a defense of Stef. Before Stef even answers for himself about his vote, SG jumps in saying that it's probably a joke.
It's... randomness.Post 8: What is this supposed to say, exactly?
Because... it is. Do you think he was genuinely insulting his avatar?Post 9: Here ShadowGirl is defending someone else's comment by saying it's just part of the "random vote stage".
I didn't mean in the bearing of scumtells being overlooked, but being hostile about the insults.Post 10: This post seems quite noncommittal to me. She says that we shouldn't excuse stuff because he is new, but also says that we can take into account that he's new. How exactly would we be taking into account that he's new but not excuse anything?
Post 11: How is this unvote constructive at all? It does nothing to move the game forward. Don't you have any real suspicions? Saying that tajo's claim is a null-tell is probably one of the scummiest things I've seen. I don't understand how anyone could think that. Same with Stef's saying he wanted to be lynched and claiming scum, even in a "joking manner". That's something I consider to be defending those two. Claiming that scummy actions they make aren't scummy. That's pretty much the exact definition of defending.
Why should I keep my vote there? No, at the time I didn't have any solid suspicions - as I've said that I believed Stef's and Tajo's action to be null tells. Is it scummy even though he flipped town, or just the calling of that in general a null tell scummy? They weren't intended to be defenses - I was stating my opinion.
I will agree that part was defense. Still, you have to take the post in context: why would scum make such a claim and get attention? Which, according to you, is what they want to do.Post 12: This is also blatant defending of tajo. The fact that you're saying it's not scummy because it's the "random stage" is even worse. Random stage can be the best time to catch scum doing something scummy because they don't think people are paying attention.
In context, again - I didn't have time to post anything more.Post 13: An extremely inane comment when I'm sure there was plenty of stuff to comment on.
Why not? I don't want someone to accidently hammer. Uh, I didn't say the mafia won't take care him. Why would I bother trying to derail the wagon if I'm scum and know him to be town? You said it yourself, he's too easy on a lynch.Post 16: Why point out that it's L-1 here? Also, there's no way he was a doctor. He would've have claimed vanilla so early as an actual doc. The mafia won't take care of him, are you nuts? He was way too easy of a lynch. I feel like SG was trying to derail the wagon on tajo by saying that he might actually be a doctor. Another defense of a scummy player who doesn't deserve it.
So sue me then. This is my first large game and I find the mass of deaths exciting (as well, I've never played with a cult).Post 17: I hate when people point out it's an awesome night. The only reason to do that is to look town by saying it was a good night because town already knows that.
Post 22: What a useless post. Why even say that?
Because I can?
If we have a cult, we could have a jester? But I did vote him...Post 25: WhyWhy haven't you voted for a scummy person? Because he could be a Jester? Terrible reason, especially because the only thing it does is distract the town.
We shouldn't rush lynches, and he should be able to say his piece.Post 28: Why does L-2 make so much of a difference? If he's scummy, he should be lynched.
Same answer as before. Do you find me saying it more less scummy if I'd only said it only once?Post 29: I still hate this. Pointing out that it was a good night for the town is not useful because we know it was a good night for the town.
Post 30: What about his play made you think he wasn't scum?
He was trying way too hard to be lynched.
I notice I made a mistake in saying I hadn't voted Emp, bah. (Reading) Near the end when he was rampaging with insults something felt off and I would have unvoted him if I had been there to witness it.Post 32: Wait a second, you didn't believe Emp was scum? But you voted for him. What gives? Why point out that massive isn't posting much? Is it just to get attention off of you? It seems like it.
And this is a scumtell how? Anyway, I just wanted to point it out. :/Post 33: I love how SG points out that people I think are scummy have been lynched when I made it pretty obvious that I was reading through the game for the first time.
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So, do you have any accusations at the moment or anything? :/Rush wrote:
I guess it's a good thing I don't play to please other members. I like to exercise the right to vote, so I pick someone to vote for each night. Beyond that, I'm not going to go around making accusations from nothing all day because everyone else is taking care of that for me. If you want to put me on the spot - here I am. As for the game until now - that's just how I play, get used to it.curiouskarmadog wrote:well, he is posting enough to not get replaced...which is crap-
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I have had hardly any time to post in any of my games. As well, seeing as how no one had posted in about twenty hours and I'm not quite sure how many are aware of how close we are to deadline. Thanks.hasdgfas wrote:
ok. If you're going to say this and yet not add anything to move the game forward, I'm 90% not going to move my vote from you.ShadowGirl wrote:Arg. Deadline is in a week, apparently.
As well, would this not also apply to Rush? And, any comment on my 730 about my actions?
@armlx: Same question as has: comment on my post (730) about my actions?
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I've got my eye on Rush, but he just seems so blatantly... anti-town, I suppose, that I don't think scum would willingly admit they've been completely useless during the day period for the whole game.
I have a few question I have first but I place solidy my suspicions/place a vote.
I'm a little suspicious of massive who thinks he can just appear on day three and that being in a large game for the time in a long time exempts you from not even showing up in the first two days.
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Eh, not really that much time to - this game seems to move pretty fast and I catch up to it when I can. (Fast in the past two days, anyway.) It doesn't seem to be holding my interest as much, either. Still, I would hate to replace out - I don't think another replacement is what this game needs, and I have slightly more time on my hands at this moment.-
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@Sierra: Has Seraphim ever done that before? I'd be more inclined to believe that possibility if he has. As well, he could just have thought that the load was too great and decided to drop a game. :/
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