I think the conversation is worth having since I think the listmod involved who approved the modkill also did not properly understand or react proportionately to the rule in question. One game is no big deal, but I'm more concerned about the matter of consistency across games on site, as this is a higher level misunderstanding. This is completely independent of arguments regarding the quality of Mastina's paraphrasing, although I'm quite prepared to argue in that arena as well. I don't appreciate that you're hiding your head in the sand over a possible error of judgment when this is something you could learn from.In post 7523, unwnd wrote:I'm not engaging in that conversation, either of you.
You wanna be right? Be right. I don't fucking care. Don't sign up for my games in the determined future. That's your freedom and I will not take that from you.
It is a site rule- "Do not quote communications with the moderator (in particular, your role PM). Paraphrasing is usually ok."
I believe that to 'quote' requires attribution or to be presented in such a way as for a person to assume that the words stated belonged to someone else, in this case the moderator.
Consider the following scenario:
In a theme game, a player aligned with the mafia claims to have the exact same role as a dead town player who had already publicly flipped, even though they do not have such a role. They then proceed to use that role PM as a base, change the player name, image, and any flavour names in the flipped role PM to suit themselves, and then they post it, claiming that it is the role PM they received from the mod.
I believe that player would certainly be modkilled under this rule as quoting private communications from the moderator. However, they would not have actually copy pasted any private communication from the moderator- everything copy pasted would have been public knowledge, as well as not being something that they received. This would be because to quote the moderator requires attribution- and it does not require the content to be truthfully the words used by the moderator. Therefore, the words used in themself do not actually matter. The way that the 'quote' is presented is absolutely key, both in terms of how much damage is caused to the game, and in terms of whether the rule has been broken. I believe that as Mastina did not attribute any words to the moderator, there was no damage to the gamestate. I would also note that no players suddenly believed Mastina's claim