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VOTE: Not_Mafia

[Not_Mafia]

252+ Atk Choice Band Miltank Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Drapion: 282-332 (100.3 - 118.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[Not_Mafia]

Hi Menalque

[Not_Mafia]

Drapion is scum though, I've read the first 2 pages

[Not_Mafia]

I always play the game, you just don't like how

[Not_Mafia]

It's time to expand your mind, throw the rulebook away

[Not_Mafia]

Drapion is scum though, I've read the first 2 pages

eh i think gypx is way more scum than drap. drap has been very solvy on finding mafia wit a town mindset imo. the interation wit them and gypx just made gypx look worse. they also had good reactions against luke. i might be biased tho

^ Drapion's partner

[Not_Mafia]

I always play the game, you just don't like how

NM nailed a scumbag in his last completed game with me and ate a n1 NK from SS as a result

I bring out the best in him

PERHAPS ITS TIME FOR THE GLORIOUS REUNION OF THE BEST ANIMAL POLICE DEPARTMENT EVER?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

As long as you PookyPinkyPromise not to be a traitor scumbutt this time

[Not_Mafia]

Although I will say it’s great to have NM playing, he’s funny and I like him!

Thanks, I like you too. It's a shame that you're scum.

[Not_Mafia]

All of them, any of them

[Not_Mafia]

What a damp squib of a discredit

[Not_Mafia]

pooky this is of capital importance, what did you eat last sunday

Your mum

[Not_Mafia]

I’ll tell you this.
Without a doubt there is a scum on my wagon.

You can only know this if you're scum yourself

[Not_Mafia]

Bingle, wouldn't it be so random if you just like, voted Drapion right now?

That would be like so crazy and cool

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Prof. Drapion

[Not_Mafia]

I’m no PR so it doesn’t really matter too too much.
I’m also in another game and it’s hard to do both with so much working IRL.

Oh. Okay then. Dead thread here I come!

VOTE: drap

bingle NM is not awake this early in the morning lol

I’m actually in work at this time

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Prof. Drapion

252+ Atk Choice Band Miltank Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Drapion: 282-332 (100.3 - 118.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[Not_Mafia]

Great job everyone

wow

this is some quality snark from somebody who couldn't bother to show up

also im conf town

cuz mena is not even playing

Mena's lack of activity is completely unacceptable, i think we need to policy him tomorrow

[Not_Mafia]

btw the fact that drap is dead but still hasnt shown up to give dying reads or w/e means this slot probly flips red

eh thats nai.

You always crop up with the weirdest comments apropos of nothing

[Not_Mafia]

What a boring kill

[Not_Mafia]

Grandpa Mo or Menlaque today

[Not_Mafia]

[Not_Mafia]

Just 5 votes before I can quickhammer, let's go

[Not_Mafia]

Gypyxypxyxypxypxypxpyx vote Mena

[Not_Mafia]

He's been inactive sitewide, that's NAI, vote Menalque

[Not_Mafia]

Trees can be scum

[Not_Mafia]

Introduction

Spoiler:

Wow. So Drap actually flipped scum. I was so keen on them flipping town and now looking back at my tunnel and analyzing the confirmation bias I have now where they are scum… I just also researched what Encryptor does. Can anyone tell me what Cowardly modifier does or is? I can see what Bingle is talking about. I did outline 2 or 3 scum quotes in my analysis but never thought highly of it. Overall, I really thought they have played the same way. Honestly if I am scum for hard defending a mafia that’s fair; you can even think of a possible elim on me to remove any doubts/regrets the town may have. However I feel like the input I provided and this flip actually brings a lot of info. I will give different perspectives and approaches on how this may flip. I am used to the newbie setup where it is only two mafia and figuring out only one scum after night one. And now I have to decipher all the approaches that two scum may have been involved in. We are on a great start in my opinion…

First Approach:

The “full bus” approach. This is where both of the other scum hopped on the wagon and bussed here. This is also the most probable approach as we see everyone pushing for the vote and no one rejecting or focused somewhere besides me, Pine, Dann, and Mena (sort of…)

Second Approach:

The “semi bus” approach. This is where one scum is on the wagon and the other is either focused somewhere else or defending. This approach is the second most probable.

Third Approach:

The “off” approach. This is where both of the scum are not on the wagon as the name suggests. This is the last probable and this is because in my opinion, scum should have took the opportunity to bus to get more town cred plus because it was the most optimal at that time as no one was giving up the wagon nor pivoting. This pool consists of me, Pine, Dann, and Mena (sort of…I will get more into this in my analysis)

First approach analysis

Spoiler:

This is where both of the Drap’s teammates were on the wagon. This pool of players include but not limited to: Lukewarm, Gypyx, Pooky, (the three main aggressors), Almost50, Not_Mafia, Bingle, and VFP.

Through my impliciative reads I gave before the flip, I said that if drap flips scum then gypyx is most likely town and that would make T3 town. Now, I retract everything and Lukewarm turned out to be right. But now I am thinking about, was he right because he knew he was scum with Drapion? Why would you question my logic on why you and Drap could be paired. There is two possible choices here. This is only assuming VFP, Bingle, Almost50, NM, and Pooky are town:
Scum between Gypyx + T3 and scum between Luke + Drap which now we found out that Drap was the scum and so that makes Luke town and debunks my logic of the same alignment. Through THAT logic, this would make more of an implication that there is a high chance that there is scum between Gypyx + T3. Gypyx + Drap is way less likely because of the interaction pointed out earlier in my analysis on how there was one scum in there; turned out to be true. Going through that logic and now making an associate read with Gypyx or T3… this would imply that T3 is Drap’s partner through bussing. That is the first way to look at it. Second way is to look at early interaction from Drap. Pooky is the only other one who I can see paired with Drap here if pooky is scum. I did have a slight scumread on pooky individually before everything… questioning his weird playstyle that is unusual to me. I have played with him before and they never were this energetic or charismatic about the game like last time they flipped town. Looking back at the interactions to see a possible pairing. Pooky actually scum read Lukewarm first in post 376 and ignored interactions with Drapion later on. Then Pooky starts sheeping NM and Mena in post 45 but calls Mena scum in EoD. That's probably because pooky already had a scumread on them. Drap had always had pooky in their null reads. Also in post 614, pooky tells me that maybe my scumreads are bussing and is rushing a night phase to happen because they know they will possibly get townread for pushing this however this quote will be funny if pooky is actually aligned with Drap here. My other read was Bingle, but there were some early interactions that came off a better way honestly that makes it seem that Bingle doesn’t provide a whole scumcase on Drap as scum. Lastly, Almost50 is also another probable candidate… I was thinking about this one and I see how they could be aligned and this could be a second approach analysis but why I scumread them could have gotten on the input that they never really pushed Drap at all. Almost50 in post 158 respond to Drap saying they will take their word for calling my wall post good. They say in post 346, that they see VFP scum and have Gypyx, Drap, Pine and Man as null. And 6 others are not in the voting pool of his. In post 456, Almost50 finally brings Drap as scum and retracts VFP scum. I get on how about A50 tried to use surface level logic when calling me out on it. Responds with individual experience not group experience which is what I wasn’t saying here. I said everyone was experienced enough implying Drap was experienced to know. There are tidbits of A50 replying to Pooky regarding Drap including post 664. As well as others like post 343; 344, 349, 350. Small interaction that I caught while ISO’ing.
This may be a reach but possible same alignment as scum or town.

TLDR; If Drap was scum and the first approach seems to be true, possible alignment includes T3 + Pooky + Almost50.

Second Approach Analysis.

Spoiler:

This is the most realistic approach due to the nature of our players being afk / coasty. I actually think my alignment I will give on about this is true. I will also reference it back in my conclusion. So assuming that T3 is aligned with Drap here, the other person who is not here + defending (from the pool of pine, mena, grandpa, dann, and mann), would be Mena. Mena pointed something out in the beginning regarding how a post of Drap was scummy of his. I thought that was town. But Drap also converses and memes with Mena after and Drap in post 68 asks… “Mena am I in the right thread” as a possible openwolf. Mena comes back with no input at all until EoD. This is possible just lack of activity from town that could have been made to look bad for Mena. However another way to look at this, if T3 + Dann is a possible pair, if that were the case then the high probability will be that Bingle would be paired as the third scum but I said earlier that I doubt I see that Bingle is paired with Drap here so that would debunk T3 being with Dann. The only possible route for this T3 + Mena + Pine or Mann. Since there hasn’t been any info at ALL from pine or mann then that slot still is viable to a scum read and pairing with T3 + Mena. What about if T3 isn’t scum? Let us start with Mena being scum to remove bias; my whole logic would contradict if I put anyone else besides VFP and NM. For example, if I paired Mena + Pooky that means it would be a Mena + Pooky + A50 scum team which isn’t true at all. Or if I paired it with Luke then Luke + Gypyx + Mena scum team which again isn’t true at all. VFP, NM, Pine, Mann, Mena and T3 (assuming T3 is 33% scum; ⅓ chance in the bussing subject) + the ones I just listed (2/3 = 66% chance either or) are the only ones that would work well in this approach where one is bussing in this case (VFP, NM, T3) and two is somewhere else (Pine, Mann, Mena).

TLDR;

Most likely situation if the second approach is true: If T3 is scum from the first approach analysis then a viable scum team could be Mena + T3 + Drap (most likely) or Pine + T3 + Drap (don’t have info) or Mann + T3 + Drap. (don’t have info)

Probable situation if the second approach is true: If VFP is scum (probable) through bussing, then a viable scum team could be the same thing as T3’s scum team but instead of T3, replace it with VFP.

Really highly unlikely situation if the second approach is true: NM. Replace VFP with NM.

Third Approach Analysis

Spoiler:

This is the most unlikely approach out of the three. This pool consists of me, Mena, Pine, and Mann.

Scum could just easily be Pine + Mann + Drap or Pine + Mena + Drap or Mann + Mena + Drap. And no I am NOT including myself because I am town. This is unlikely because the lack of interactions when there are better interactions that have seemed more AI for town to see and decipher conclusions from.

The reason I said sort of is because yes they did vote Drap however it doesn’t count because of the lack of activity and reasoning they never provided therefore they never provided any input on Drap until EoD where they also never commented on anything regarding the game.

Conclusion

Spoiler:

This will probably be a TLDR. But since I got something wrong on Day 1, I am now opening my eyes to all of those perspectives. Do not get mad at me or offended if I paired you with etc. Please just reply and quote and explain to me on why and how. I have a specific way of thinking through my logic and that’s probably why.

In conclusion, I now lean town for Luke + Gypyx. I scumread T3 and see a possible pair that could be Pooky + A50 assuming Bingle, VFP, NM, and everyone who was on the wagon is town. And that is only through the first approach where two of the mafia were on the wagon, implying Pooky and A50 was on the wagon. Second approach is where I think the most likely situation is and basically I get my logic from approach one and combine it with approach two. I can’t pair with Pooky and A50 anymore because that’s two scum not 1. The only 1 scum scenario is VFP, T3, and NM and I can’t do Bingle, Luke, or Gypyx because I individually town read them through approach one. I think the most likely scenario is T3 + Mena (or maybe one of the afks if Mena is town). Third approach is irrelevant in my opinion.

Anyways that’s a quick TLDR on where I stand now. I am honestly confused but I am trying to make it make sense because this game is honestly hard.

Okay here is my fully analysis on that flip. @Pooky I gave you a TLDR in my conclusion just for you. However, I know I am on the chopping block because I did defend someone who indeed flipped scum which I really thought would flip town.

Thoughts on this night kill? I honestly think this is a weird kill. I am trying to think why would they kill Dann, they are either inexperienced or they thought they were paired with someone else. This doesn't bring any info though. Only interactions was with Bingle. I would need to ISO later.

Tl;dr

[Not_Mafia]

Introduction

Spoiler:

Wow. So Drap actually flipped scum. I was so keen on them flipping town and now looking back at my tunnel and analyzing the confirmation bias I have now where they are scum… I just also researched what Encryptor does. Can anyone tell me what Cowardly modifier does or is? I can see what Bingle is talking about. I did outline 2 or 3 scum quotes in my analysis but never thought highly of it. Overall, I really thought they have played the same way. Honestly if I am scum for hard defending a mafia that’s fair; you can even think of a possible elim on me to remove any doubts/regrets the town may have. However I feel like the input I provided and this flip actually brings a lot of info. I will give different perspectives and approaches on how this may flip. I am used to the newbie setup where it is only two mafia and figuring out only one scum after night one. And now I have to decipher all the approaches that two scum may have been involved in. We are on a great start in my opinion…

First Approach:

The “full bus” approach. This is where both of the other scum hopped on the wagon and bussed here. This is also the most probable approach as we see everyone pushing for the vote and no one rejecting or focused somewhere besides me, Pine, Dann, and Mena (sort of…)

Second Approach:

The “semi bus” approach. This is where one scum is on the wagon and the other is either focused somewhere else or defending. This approach is the second most probable.

Third Approach:

The “off” approach. This is where both of the scum are not on the wagon as the name suggests. This is the last probable and this is because in my opinion, scum should have took the opportunity to bus to get more town cred plus because it was the most optimal at that time as no one was giving up the wagon nor pivoting. This pool consists of me, Pine, Dann, and Mena (sort of…I will get more into this in my analysis)

First approach analysis

Spoiler:

This is where both of the Drap’s teammates were on the wagon. This pool of players include but not limited to: Lukewarm, Gypyx, Pooky, (the three main aggressors), Almost50, Not_Mafia, Bingle, and VFP.

Through my impliciative reads I gave before the flip, I said that if drap flips scum then gypyx is most likely town and that would make T3 town. Now, I retract everything and Lukewarm turned out to be right. But now I am thinking about, was he right because he knew he was scum with Drapion? Why would you question my logic on why you and Drap could be paired. There is two possible choices here. This is only assuming VFP, Bingle, Almost50, NM, and Pooky are town:
Scum between Gypyx + T3 and scum between Luke + Drap which now we found out that Drap was the scum and so that makes Luke town and debunks my logic of the same alignment. Through THAT logic, this would make more of an implication that there is a high chance that there is scum between Gypyx + T3. Gypyx + Drap is way less likely because of the interaction pointed out earlier in my analysis on how there was one scum in there; turned out to be true. Going through that logic and now making an associate read with Gypyx or T3… this would imply that T3 is Drap’s partner through bussing. That is the first way to look at it. Second way is to look at early interaction from Drap. Pooky is the only other one who I can see paired with Drap here if pooky is scum. I did have a slight scumread on pooky individually before everything… questioning his weird playstyle that is unusual to me. I have played with him before and they never were this energetic or charismatic about the game like last time they flipped town. Looking back at the interactions to see a possible pairing. Pooky actually scum read Lukewarm first in post 376 and ignored interactions with Drapion later on. Then Pooky starts sheeping NM and Mena in post 45 but calls Mena scum in EoD. That's probably because pooky already had a scumread on them. Drap had always had pooky in their null reads. Also in post 614, pooky tells me that maybe my scumreads are bussing and is rushing a night phase to happen because they know they will possibly get townread for pushing this however this quote will be funny if pooky is actually aligned with Drap here. My other read was Bingle, but there were some early interactions that came off a better way honestly that makes it seem that Bingle doesn’t provide a whole scumcase on Drap as scum. Lastly, Almost50 is also another probable candidate… I was thinking about this one and I see how they could be aligned and this could be a second approach analysis but why I scumread them could have gotten on the input that they never really pushed Drap at all. Almost50 in post 158 respond to Drap saying they will take their word for calling my wall post good. They say in post 346, that they see VFP scum and have Gypyx, Drap, Pine and Man as null. And 6 others are not in the voting pool of his. In post 456, Almost50 finally brings Drap as scum and retracts VFP scum. I get on how about A50 tried to use surface level logic when calling me out on it. Responds with individual experience not group experience which is what I wasn’t saying here. I said everyone was experienced enough implying Drap was experienced to know. There are tidbits of A50 replying to Pooky regarding Drap including post 664. As well as others like post 343; 344, 349, 350. Small interaction that I caught while ISO’ing.
This may be a reach but possible same alignment as scum or town.

TLDR; If Drap was scum and the first approach seems to be true, possible alignment includes T3 + Pooky + Almost50.

Second Approach Analysis.

Spoiler:

This is the most realistic approach due to the nature of our players being afk / coasty. I actually think my alignment I will give on about this is true. I will also reference it back in my conclusion. So assuming that T3 is aligned with Drap here, the other person who is not here + defending (from the pool of pine, mena, grandpa, dann, and mann), would be Mena. Mena pointed something out in the beginning regarding how a post of Drap was scummy of his. I thought that was town. But Drap also converses and memes with Mena after and Drap in post 68 asks… “Mena am I in the right thread” as a possible openwolf. Mena comes back with no input at all until EoD. This is possible just lack of activity from town that could have been made to look bad for Mena. However another way to look at this, if T3 + Dann is a possible pair, if that were the case then the high probability will be that Bingle would be paired as the third scum but I said earlier that I doubt I see that Bingle is paired with Drap here so that would debunk T3 being with Dann. The only possible route for this T3 + Mena + Pine or Mann. Since there hasn’t been any info at ALL from pine or mann then that slot still is viable to a scum read and pairing with T3 + Mena. What about if T3 isn’t scum? Let us start with Mena being scum to remove bias; my whole logic would contradict if I put anyone else besides VFP and NM. For example, if I paired Mena + Pooky that means it would be a Mena + Pooky + A50 scum team which isn’t true at all. Or if I paired it with Luke then Luke + Gypyx + Mena scum team which again isn’t true at all. VFP, NM, Pine, Mann, Mena and T3 (assuming T3 is 33% scum; ⅓ chance in the bussing subject) + the ones I just listed (2/3 = 66% chance either or) are the only ones that would work well in this approach where one is bussing in this case (VFP, NM, T3) and two is somewhere else (Pine, Mann, Mena).

TLDR;

Most likely situation if the second approach is true: If T3 is scum from the first approach analysis then a viable scum team could be Mena + T3 + Drap (most likely) or Pine + T3 + Drap (don’t have info) or Mann + T3 + Drap. (don’t have info)

Probable situation if the second approach is true: If VFP is scum (probable) through bussing, then a viable scum team could be the same thing as T3’s scum team but instead of T3, replace it with VFP.

Really highly unlikely situation if the second approach is true: NM. Replace VFP with NM.

Third Approach Analysis

Spoiler:

This is the most unlikely approach out of the three. This pool consists of me, Mena, Pine, and Mann.

Scum could just easily be Pine + Mann + Drap or Pine + Mena + Drap or Mann + Mena + Drap. And no I am NOT including myself because I am town. This is unlikely because the lack of interactions when there are better interactions that have seemed more AI for town to see and decipher conclusions from.

The reason I said sort of is because yes they did vote Drap however it doesn’t count because of the lack of activity and reasoning they never provided therefore they never provided any input on Drap until EoD where they also never commented on anything regarding the game.

Conclusion

Spoiler:

This will probably be a TLDR. But since I got something wrong on Day 1, I am now opening my eyes to all of those perspectives. Do not get mad at me or offended if I paired you with etc. Please just reply and quote and explain to me on why and how. I have a specific way of thinking through my logic and that’s probably why.

In conclusion, I now lean town for Luke + Gypyx. I scumread T3 and see a possible pair that could be Pooky + A50 assuming Bingle, VFP, NM, and everyone who was on the wagon is town. And that is only through the first approach where two of the mafia were on the wagon, implying Pooky and A50 was on the wagon. Second approach is where I think the most likely situation is and basically I get my logic from approach one and combine it with approach two. I can’t pair with Pooky and A50 anymore because that’s two scum not 1. The only 1 scum scenario is VFP, T3, and NM and I can’t do Bingle, Luke, or Gypyx because I individually town read them through approach one. I think the most likely scenario is T3 + Mena (or maybe one of the afks if Mena is town). Third approach is irrelevant in my opinion.

Anyways that’s a quick TLDR on where I stand now. I am honestly confused but I am trying to make it make sense because this game is honestly hard.

Okay here is my fully analysis on that flip. @Pooky I gave you a TLDR in my conclusion just for you. However, I know I am on the chopping block because I did defend someone who indeed flipped scum which I really thought would flip town.

Thoughts on this night kill? I honestly think this is a weird kill. I am trying to think why would they kill Dann, they are either inexperienced or they thought they were paired with someone else. This doesn't bring any info though. Only interactions was with Bingle. I would need to ISO later.

Tl;dr

its in the conclusion.

"This will probably be a TLDR. But since I got something wrong on Day 1, I am now opening my eyes to all of those perspectives. Do not get mad at me or offended if I paired you with etc. Please just reply and quote and explain to me on why and how. I have a specific way of thinking through my logic and that’s probably why.

In conclusion, I now lean town for Luke + Gypyx. I scumread T3 and see a possible pair that could be Pooky + A50 assuming Bingle, VFP, NM, and everyone who was on the wagon is town. And that is only through the first approach where two of the mafia were on the wagon, implying Pooky and A50 was on the wagon. Second approach is where I think the most likely situation is and basically I get my logic from approach one and combine it with approach two. I can’t pair with Pooky and A50 anymore because that’s two scum not 1. The only 1 scum scenario is VFP, T3, and NM (who were on the wagon) and I can’t do Bingle, Luke, or Gypyx because I individually town read them through approach one. I think the most likely scenario is T3 + Mena (or maybe one of the afks if Mena is town). Third approach is irrelevant in my opinion.

Anyways that’s a quick TLDR on where I stand now. I am honestly confused but I am trying to make it make sense because this game is honestly hard."

Still tl;dr

[Not_Mafia]

I got an innocent on Grandpa Mo

[Not_Mafia]

A50
T3

Gypyx
Pooky

Lukewarm

Bingle
Grandpa
Mena

NM

Pine

I'm finding it hard to scum read players this game.
I think 1 deep wolf

I think Pine purely because I don't see anyone as strong scum.
There's 1 scum in Null to scum and 1 in the towns I think.

I'd be happy with an NM lim here too.

I drove the drap elim

[Not_Mafia]

Why are the Pine and Mena wagons stalling?

[Not_Mafia]

Johnny's catch-up was terrible and 1002 is a scumpost

Eliminate swiftly and with prejudice

[Not_Mafia]

I've caught Johnny in RVS before so for him to be like "lul wacky unreadable N_M, no opinion here" when I pushed drap is definitely disingenuous

[Not_Mafia]

The right to dead thread access

[Not_Mafia]

Grandad vote Johnny

[Not_Mafia]

Johnny vote Johnny

[Not_Mafia]

A50 vote Johnny the instant you see this

[Not_Mafia]

green

[Not_Mafia]

I'm saving this post right here as something I can link to in the future to show you when you're wrong

[Not_Mafia]

A50 and gypyx will vote you

[Not_Mafia]

As will Bingle probably

Menalque will advocate a policy elim on someone and shade the wagon then proceed to not contribute at all

[Not_Mafia]

We the 4 of you certainly aren't scum

This is one of those "we got scum d1 so now we lazy" town games

I hope Mena isn't one of my last 2 votes. That'll just nail their coffin tomorrow if they're town

Scumflail

[Not_Mafia]

A self-vote would be really flaily

[Not_Mafia]

The sooner you get to E-1, the sooner I can hammer. Think of all the town discussion time you could cut off

[Not_Mafia]

It's time to give up Johnny, time to vote for yourself

[Not_Mafia]

Why delay the inevitable, you may as well go out on your own terms

[Not_Mafia]

You can stop the bloat by self voting and ending the day

[Not_Mafia]

You've already scum claimed like 6 times

[Not_Mafia]

Please don't run Mena up without a little due process

We'll give your partner a chance don't worry

[Not_Mafia]

What does that mean?

[Not_Mafia]

Please self-vote, pwetty pwease uwu

[Not_Mafia]

Lukewarm vote Johnny

[Not_Mafia]

The longer this takes the more I feel Johnny is flipping town.

He isn't

[Not_Mafia]

Dang eight cuz I ain't flipping

[Not_Mafia]

A50 vote Johnny the instant you see this

I don't think this flips red, my fellow animal-police-detective

You could vote him anyway

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Johnny

[Not_Mafia]

I'm willing to put Menalque on the back burner for now as I liked the catch-up, but I am susceptible to townreading that stream of consciousness style posting, so I'm tentatively giving a townlean.

Johnny is still scum, it's only the last couple of pages he's made any attempt to provide any kind of cogent reads and they were very boring, he's mostly just made lame attempts to shade everyone on his wagon. Last time I played with town Johnny he was more contrite with me because I'd caught him as scum in a previous game, here the energy is completely different.

[Not_Mafia]

In my heart, Johnny will always be scum

[Not_Mafia]

As a mod I would not accept a vote for “no one” as a vote for a no elimination.

VOTE: Pooky

[Not_Mafia]

fuck, was that hammer?

ewwwww

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Grandpa Mo

[Not_Mafia]

I'm the Psychologist

Night 1 I checked Grandpa Mo and got a can kill result
Night 2 I checked Gypyx and got a can't kill result
Night 3 I checked your mum and got a I'm lying I'm really VT result

[Not_Mafia]

I still refuse to believe Johnny's flip

[Not_Mafia]

We all matter and we are all beautiful

[Not_Mafia]

Just get rid of the grandpa

I have no idea how to distinguish between Pooky town rage and Pooky scum flail

[Not_Mafia]

Menalque why the Grandpa Mo townread?

[Not_Mafia]

What was the question?

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Grandpa Mo

interesting vote, how come?

@nm this :/

Cos i think you're Drap and Johnny's partner

[Not_Mafia]

Menalque why the Grandpa Mo townread?

idk bro he feels like he's solving or he did the other page when he was talking to me

y u disagree

although I guess we could compromise and kill gypyx

Is he though? He’s certainly asking a lot of questions

[Not_Mafia]

I think I have gotten enough info to make a judgment call.

I'm town

[Not_Mafia]

You have my curiosity

[Not_Mafia]

pog

Hi, I’m town

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: T3

[Not_Mafia]

5 useless twilight pages

[Not_Mafia]

I’ll tell you this.
Without a doubt there is a scum on my wagon.

You can only know this if you're scum yourself

Like is this actually a strong enough reason to be convinced that drap!scum is a thing

And NM will definitely bus

That was a tongue-in-cheek comment, I was already scumreading Drap

[Not_Mafia]

Y’all spammin’

[Not_Mafia]

I have no idea who scum is anymore

[Not_Mafia]

Gun to my head, Grandpa and Ysrasse?

[Not_Mafia]

I still refuse to believe Johnny was town

[Not_Mafia]

Game is hard

Why are you people not able to towntell >:(

I can't believe we aren't closer to finding the last 3 scum

[Not_Mafia]

Not me!

[Not_Mafia]

Not me!

Can u give me anything you’ve done that makes you not scum here?

Posted content

[Not_Mafia]

Not me!

Can u give me anything you’ve done that makes you not scum here?

Drove the drap elim

[Not_Mafia]

Why is it mo + ydra ?

I think it's maybe Ydra and Bingle now

[Not_Mafia]

Not me!

Can u give me anything you’ve done that makes you not scum here?

Drove the drap elim

also what GeniusGamer said in ur quote really defines you lmfao

Guess what. Genius was scum in that game and I was town

[Not_Mafia]

Why is it mo + ydra ?

I think it's maybe Ydra and Bingle now

hmm.....

why the pivot?

[Not_Mafia]

does nm get any towncredit by bussing bingle here?

It at least makes tomorrow harder, assuming bingle is scum

NM is all about sandbagging his towngame to make his scumgame stronger which is annoying and borderline rulebreaking, but it is what it is and he’s not gonna change that now

Nah I just do what I feel like

[Not_Mafia]

I mean I’ll let you say your piece but I’ll also re-iterate what I said to ydra, which is that I’ll be voting today much less based on what anyone does/says today and much more based on all the play that led us to this lylo in the first place

Okay, sure, but tell me when N_M has played this hard as scum. Because the answer afaik is never. And he's actually been pretty high effort as town recently.

again you keep fucking reading NM always to meta like holy shit, thats all u have done this game, is meta read and its honestly frustrating lmao

This is a scum post

[Not_Mafia]

You're talking like he's using horoscopes to make his read

[Not_Mafia]

holy fuck that took the 2 brain cells left i had in this game

tl;dr

[Not_Mafia]

holy fuck that took the 2 brain cells left i had in this game

tl;dr

[Not_Mafia]

also its not even that long, just read ffs im not bout have my cocntext ruined thru tldrs .. its very very important to read always into details especially consideirng its mylo

I can't be bothered

[Not_Mafia]

Is Menalque all that town? He basically sauntered in day 3 and pushed our PR

[Not_Mafia]

I'm ready

VOTE: GrandpaMo

[Not_Mafia]

There's no one else here, your "not hammering" is not applicable

[Not_Mafia]

UNVOTE:

[Not_Mafia]

Mo and Bingle?

[Not_Mafia]

I'm comfortable leaving my vote on Mo at this point

[Not_Mafia]

You're so boring

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Mo

[Not_Mafia]

Yo?

No, Mo

[Not_Mafia]

Jo Momma

[Not_Mafia]

I have to walk my dog, I'll be back in half an hour or so

[Not_Mafia]

You have a dog!? Pics??

viewtopic.php?p=12216664#p12216664

[Not_Mafia]

Okay bye now

[Not_Mafia]

why is the vote being on me?? why are we even voting yet??? when we havent even have heard from fucking bingle's analysis that was suppose to happen on tuesday. u see the shit i mean? and now what bout ydrasse? the person who hasnt been there and instead mingling wit mena where ydrasse compleetely deflected my question and still somehow shadow ghosting me. now you have mena' paranoia causing scum to easily pocket u . and u got nm who is being townread for no reason but "meta" even tho he hasnt contributed shit other than hammer on day 1 where 50% of scum do that shit on this website.

Scum flail

[Not_Mafia]

Vote me then

[Not_Mafia]

All this posturing but no vote

[Not_Mafia]

Vote me then

....


i already voted bingle u dumb cow

whats the difference between voting between 2 scum???

@mena do u see my point???

Bingle isn't confirmed to you you dumb title card

[Not_Mafia]

I'm town

[Not_Mafia]

If I drive the elim on two scum and get reverse BoP'd or whatever the term is called just because Menalque doesn't like my playstyle I swear to Whitney

[Not_Mafia]

Well, town probably loses now. Stupid randing scum in SH.

What?

[Not_Mafia]

I guess the only other thing is that it *might* still be NM and bingle where N_M (who is very canny) perceived my shifting stance on mo and decided to vote there to capitalise on that before my opinion had become locked in

but that seems unlikely given mo's insistence on not voting conf!scum to him

Do you really think I pay this kind of attention?

[Not_Mafia]

weird, those posts didn't show up for me when I refreshed page. Is the site glitching for anyone else?

Yeah I had an issue with this before when I first had the Mo vote out

[Not_Mafia]

So it's just Mo and Bingle right? This game feels like it should have a more complicated solution but I think it's just Mingle

[Not_Mafia]

I feel like I'm pretty obviously not S/S with mo, tbh.

Who are you S/S with?

[Not_Mafia]

I mean

it can't be

me/ydra
me/NM
me/bingle
ydra/bingle
ydra/NM

atp right? all those teams have had plenty of time to hammer

so the only teams left are

me/mo
bingle/NM
mo/NM

wait is ydra just cleared then lmao

she could have hammered bingle with me or NM

could've hammered mo with bingle or me

wtf is this shit. there is so many fallacies with this.

it can def be you + ydra? i have my vote on possible scum that could be paired up with either you or ydra.

Let us assume I am not voting anyone Right now to paint you the picture sweet mena.

We assume that NM is voting me and that happens to be the case.

1/5 on me.

Now... If bingle votes me that will be 2/5 >>> now let us assume scumpair is NM and Bingle and so that is a valid pair. -- (again hence why he isn't voting me!!!)

Now if mena votes that will be 2/5 >>> let us assume scumpair is NM and Mena and so that is a valid pair.

Now if Ydrasse votes that will be 2/5 >>> let us assume scumpair is NM and Ydrasse and so that is a valid pair.

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Let us move over to me voting Bingle just for one second.

Assuming NM is not voting me ATP and complete neutral non biased VC

1/5 on bingle.

Now if mena votes that will be 2/5 >>> let us asusme scumpair is ydrasse and NM and this is valid. Do you really think scum would anticipate something especially when everyone here has been active and can easily unvote or even misrepresent votes?

Now if ydrasse votes that will be 2/5 >>> let us assume scumpair is mena and NM and this is valid.

Now if NM votes that will be 2/5 >>> let us assume scumpair is ydrasse and mena and this is valid.
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okay hopefully that gives you a general overview of wassup

now

let us assume that both me and Nm are voting here.

I vote Bingle and NM votes Me.

Ydrasse votes me >>> then its 2/5 on me... Mena + Bingle have the hammer. Mena and Bingle do NOT hammer....

This results in Ydrasse + NM as being paired.

Mena votes me >>> then its 2/5 on me... Ydrasse + Bingle have the hammer. Ydrasse and Bingle do NOT hammer...

This results in Mena + NM as being paired.

Bingle votes me >>> then its 2/5 on me... Ydrasse + Mena have the hammer. Ydrasse and mena do Not hammer...

This results in Bingle + NM as being paired.

That's further explanation on what I said ^

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Now look at this, you even pin point that it could be me + you.

Now, couldn't it be also Ydrasse / me (if i was scum) since it would have the same effect especially since you have me + bingle as paired here?

and me + you paired?

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So the real pairs should be.

Me/Mena
Me/Ydrasse
Me/Bingle
Me/NM (assuming if scum were to bus me if I was scum)
NM/Mena
NM/Ydrasse
NM/Bingle

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This is why I want to go Bingle instead of NM here. Yes they fit in more pairs; but I feel as though it would be smart to combat scum's plan to actually subside the POE.

Bingle >>> NM >>> Ydrasse >>> Mena.

Now that's all objectivity.

We aren't even talking about mafia slow rolling, or even all the other circumstances, on how it could be the other pairs -- This is why I was frustrated earlier on how much I HATE this last lazy tactic of town, it would happen in my older platforms and town would throw just because someone didn't hammer, and they would rely on the hammer meta so much and guess what it would become wrong and town would just throw the game. And it's happening now. The only person who I actually trusted in actually solving this game, is using that specific tactic and it's such a shame. I wish pooky was still alive.

tl;dr

[Not_Mafia]

Drapion is scum though, I've read the first 2 pages

eh i think gypx is way more scum than drap. drap has been very solvy on finding mafia wit a town mindset imo. the interation wit them and gypx just made gypx look worse. they also had good reactions against luke. i might be biased tho

^ Drapion's partner

Hey we talked about this!
I said don’t mention us right away in Scum PT not call our both your partners!

also this, what do yall think about this

in fact, i will change my vote to NM even tho there is literally no difference. but this post looks very very bad for NM.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Not_Mafia

Wow, look at this desperation

[Not_Mafia]

Leaning back towards Mo and Ydra now, I understand why Menalque hasn't hammered yet but not Ydra. Feels like scum active lurking, inducing apathy and just riding out a favourable game state without rocking the boat

[Not_Mafia]

Drapion is scum though, I've read the first 2 pages

eh i think gypx is way more scum than drap. drap has been very solvy on finding mafia wit a town mindset imo. the interation wit them and gypx just made gypx look worse. they also had good reactions against luke. i might be biased tho

^ Drapion's partner

[Not_Mafia]

Poor flailing grandpa, someone put him out of his misery

[Not_Mafia]

Infinite flail

[Not_Mafia]

This day really should have ended like 48-72 hours ago

[Not_Mafia]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz hammer yourself

[Not_Mafia]

We are way overdue on a hammer now

[Not_Mafia]

Mo's been obvscum since day 1

[Not_Mafia]

prod received, I'll make a decision here later today

sorry for kinda leaving things in limbo, I've just been busy and this is hard but also kind of boring

Your mum is hard but also kind of boring

[Not_Mafia]

Seismic flail

[Not_Mafia]

Okay scum

[Not_Mafia]

This game feels sort of like a case lesson in why ability to look town is often much greater utility than having good reads

I think this was winnable and you have a bias towards dismissing me or wanting me to be scum.

Nonetheless, congrats and gg scum and thanks mod for hosting

[Not_Mafia]

The Psychologist feels a bit redundant, maybe a 2 shot Neapolitan