Mini 634 - The Baron's court: Game over
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sekinj Mafia Scum
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hmm... Well, one thing seems clear, it is EITHER mafiamann OR quints. Since they are attacking each other it is not likely that they are both scum... So I'm wondering what other's opinions of that is? I've asked Mar about this before. Are people still thinking the baroness is in league with the sorcerer?
Also, how many scum are we thinking there are? If either quints or MM is one of the scum, who is the other or others?
I'm still suspicious of thinktank. also, notice how think did not have any sort of opinion on quints. Everyone else reacted to his claim, but think did not.
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A) They can both easily be scum. Scum turn on each other all the time.
B) I think you guys are way too hung up on the mansion/palace thing. Hell, I've been thinking of the whole thing as a castle. It doesn't mean a thing.
C) Both Cass and think were too eager to jump on a bandwagon without seeming as such. They're both high on my suspect list.
D) The more I think about it, the more I can believe that Cass was the town's punishment for a no lynch.
E) If D is true, this is likely LyLo (I'm assuming 3 scum at this point, since that's common in a mini) and we better hope MM is scum.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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This is where I am at right now as well.Rage wrote:I still want Qwints gone, and am not happy with a MafiaMann lynch.Show-sekinj
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but not usually without reason. and I'm talking about a theme game here. This game is very intricate. How do you think their roles relate to each other if they are both scum?Mariyta wrote:A) They can both easily be scum. Scum turn on each other all the time.
I agree that I don't think MM's mistake was that big of a deal right now. Later on I might think differently. However, I DO think it is very important for all of us to pay MORE attention to our flavor and knowledge rather than less. Players liek MM and others need to be sure to doublecheck their PM before they post in order to get the details right. I think the difference is in the details of this theme game.Mariyta wrote:B) I think you guys are way too hung up on the mansion/palace thing. Hell, I've been thinking of the whole thing as a castle. It doesn't mean a thing.
I am mostly suspicious of think, as I have mentioned. I've also noticed that cass seems to have quite a bit of insider knowledge. A lot of what he says or hints at seems to come right from the same book my Knowledge came from.Mariyta wrote:C) Both Cass and think were too eager to jump on a bandwagon without seeming as such. They're both high on my suspect list.
Absolutely not. I do not beleive this at all. I think that Cass was a player that all along was planned to come in at the start of Day 3. it was just coinsidence that we had a no lynch on day 2. Let's please not forget those people who CAUSED our no lynch.Mariyta wrote:D) The more I think about it, the more I can believe that Cass was the town's punishment for a no lynch.
I don't think d is true, but we may very be at lylo. and I'm not yet convinced MM is scum.Mariyta wrote:E) If D is true, this is likely LyLo (I'm assuming 3 scum at this point, since that's common in a mini) and we better hope MM is scum.Show-sekinj
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I should probably expand on that, eh?
Some things I want to point out about Qwints, that haven't really been covered before:
The message given by the following four quotes is generally the same, but there are many inconsistencies. The "-" parts are review of the quote and any paragraph until the next quote is my opinion on it.
-has not received any anonymous lettersqwints wrote:I received no anonymous letters. I was told in my flavor text, however, about someone sent by someone else to the area (some of you will know what I'm talking about.) I suppose that knowledge could have come by way of a mysterious letter.
-states that flavour text may have been given to him by letter
Does this mean that the "mysterious letter" was not sent you to anonymously? Also, I think the "mysterious letter" excuse is just that, an excuse, and a poorly fabricated one at that. This is one of the reasons why I think you are scummier than MafiaMann.
-has not received any letters at allqwints wrote:Let me be clear. I've received no letters. My flavor text implies that I have found something out. I suppose that (in flavor world) I could have found that out through letters.
-thinks he may have received a letter, which he says would explain his flavour text
1. Odd, my flavour text implies that I have to find something out, not that I know of it already, like you are saying. Scumtendsto know more than Town.
2. Presumably, letters are physical objects, or as physical as possible on a computer = messaging. I should know, because I have both received a message (I was given a private message during Night 1, indicating the lose of my vote that day), and I have also sent out letters, which I can safely assume were given to players by private message, too.
@SekinjandMariyta, how did you receive your "letters"?
-before the game, it is possible that he has received lettersqwints wrote:I mean that it is possible from my flavor text that my character received letters in the days before night 0. Since the game has started, i.e. since night 0, I have received no letters.
-during the game, he has received no letters
How did you get the letter before the game, again?
-confirms he hasn't received any letters at allqwints wrote:I thought I was pretty clear that I haven't received letters in game, but that it's plausible that my character has received letters.
-confirms he might have received letters
Overall, total bogus.
Now, referring back to your role claim post,qwints wrote:I am the Baroness. My full name is Lady Camille Vanderton.My power is an ability to move people between quarters at night and a one shot command ability for servants. I know that a messenger has come from the Prince to try to cleanse the area of a supernatural. (This was the information that came from a letter.) My predecessor never moved anyone.)"My power is...": So, you have two powers, one for each night that switches a player to a different location, the other which is a one-shot ability to order a 'servant' to vote for someone.
The first power makes sense if those locations exist.
The second I am not a fan of, although it does exist. I just hope it is truly one-shot.
"I know that a messenger...": I kind of skimmed past this before, but I don't understand how a messenger is able cleanse anything. Especially since Cass claims to have a "Sir" in front of his name, which most likely means he is not a messenger.
As well as how my character could have known about this if itwasdelivered by letter.
I've explained what my Knowledge states, and your explanation, as listed above, has not convinced me to think any other way. Couple this with the amount of pressure MafiaMann has based on nothing I consider lynch-worthy means I think you are scummier than him.qwints wrote:@Rage
Yes, I realize you're the only player that has claimed with information about me. I've never pretended that I chose you at random. I chose you as the one that would maximize the chances of a scum lynch.With all due respect, you are simply wrong about me.
You forced me to vote for MafiaMann and continued pressure for his lynch. I'm not saying continuing for the lynch is a bad thing, I am saying the reactions you have gotten from a few people has been interesting. Notably, what has been said before a bit, thinktank and Cass.
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Perfect.qwints wrote:How directly am I allowed to say this? I don't think we're allowed to directly quote my pm, but my knowledge does tell me that those are the five night quarters people can use.
@MafiaMann,
Answer this please, MafiaMann. I'm asking what you did to me so that my letter could not be received by Gremwell on Night 1.Rage wrote:
Switched his night-action or switched night-actions on him? And, to whom?MafiaMann wrote:FIne you know what ill tell you i ensorcel someone i than have the ability to switch their postitions at night or switch their targets the first night i switched sekinji because i thought his info may make him a target.
This is crucial stuff!
@Sekinj,
Do you have anything to say, now that everyone have shared their names?sekinj wrote:
Yes, I have other information that MAY be helpful if people share names.Rage wrote:Anyways, Sekinj, do you have any name-related information other than that "b" thing you brought up early Day 1?
@Cass,
Where do you stay at night?Cass wrote:Not in any of the locations that have been mentioned, so this most likely confirms your mysterious 'fifth location that will be used later
What exactly was this in response to?sekinj wrote:Cass: I know that someone feels obligated to tell lies. But that is all I know.
@Thinktank,
In your own words and before the deadline, could you please explain what exactly you find unclear that MafiaMann has said? And, how do you feel about my Knowledge regarding Qwints? In your posts since my role claim post, you have not mentioned it at all, so I would very much like to hear from you about this.thinktank wrote:Nothing about your information is clear. Its all quite muddy when it should not be. Now you claim that you are in the right wing and not in the basement, which is again scummy.
@PimHel, please post your top suspect(s) and why. I hope you understand that the Town cannot afford for any of it's members to be any more silent than the rest. If you can't keep up with our pace, or feel it would be necessary, please request for a replacement and the Mod can do something about it. Otherwise, you are lurking. Lurking + close to a deadline = scummy beyond belief.
@MafiaMann, I'm going to end on this, and a huge inconsistency like this should have been pointed out before. You claim to select two people and switch.. uh.. whatever between them, but when you "ensorcel" someone, you only listonename. How does the Mod know of the other name?
Please remember that this inconsistency is not indicative of how scummy you are, I would just like to know a lot more about your role. Also, you should probably face the fact that you have to role claim now, since you are close to being lynched.
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Finally, I believe that a qwints lynch will provide more information the the Town than a MafiaMann lynch would.I'm a rageaholic! I just can't live without rageahol!-
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@Sekinj: Yes, I've already posted how they could easily be related. Watch any cheesy medieval movie and you'll see the queen/baroness/other token powerful female teamed up with the magician/sorcerer/enchanter/what-have-you. It's a very common theme, and very easy to do.
@Rage: I received my letter via PM. There was no question that I received one. It was very clear.
@The rest of the TOWN: Please don't let the scum sidetrack you. Of course they'll be desperate to split us down the middle to force a no-lynch again. Don't let it happen.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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just give me some theories about why they would be trying to buss each other right now.Mariyta wrote:@Sekinj: Yes, I've already posted how they could easily be related. Watch any cheesy medieval movie and you'll see the queen/baroness/other token powerful female teamed up with the magician/sorcerer/enchanter/what-have-you. It's a very common theme, and very easy to do.Show-sekinj
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I got mine in a PM. It was very clear that it was a letter delivered to me.Rage wrote:@SekinjandMariyta, how did you receive your "letters"?
the post directly before. Cass asked quints if he thought anyone would be lying.Rage wrote:
What exactly was this in response to?sekinj wrote:Cass: I know that someone feels obligated to tell lies. But that is all I know.Show-sekinj
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rage i pm the mod my other name
I switched you and sekinjs place as in physically so i dont see how i could have affected your letter to gremwellWhy don't they pass a constitutional amendment prohibiting anybody from learning anything? If it works as well as prohibition did, in five years Americans would be the smartest race of people on Earth.├óÔé¼-
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@cass: Why are you voting MM over quintz? Do you believe quintz's claim? Do you think commaning votes is a power given to the town? Do you think MM is the sorcerer and is in league with quintz?Show-sekinj
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Scum do it all the time. When they get in a tight spot, they pick the scummiest of their teammates and throw them under the bus. It makes them seem like town because "scum wouldn't go after their own", and they get to live another day.sekinj wrote:
just give me some theories about why they would be trying to buss each other right now.Mariyta wrote:@Sekinj: Yes, I've already posted how they could easily be related. Watch any cheesy medieval movie and you'll see the queen/baroness/other token powerful female teamed up with the magician/sorcerer/enchanter/what-have-you. It's a very common theme, and very easy to do.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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He did only send 3. You, me, and sekinj. Where'd you get the other one from?Gremwell wrote:I thought there were only 3 letters you sent out rage.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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The right wing. Like Mafiamann claims, which makes me think again about some things.Rage wrote: @Cass,
Cass wrote:
Not in any of the locations that have been mentioned, so this most likely confirms your mysterious 'fifth location that will be used later
Where do you stay at night?
I asked MM if he had reason to think anyone was lying. Sekinj chose to answer my question as well.sekinj wrote:
Cass: I know that someone feels obligated to tell lies. But that is all I know.
What exactly was this in response to?
Also, I think they are probably both scum. I don't think they are in the same group, which would explain why Qwints is attacking MM so aggressively. I do not want a no lynchat all, and will switch my vote without hesitation to avoid it. But right now, that needs the help of one other player...
I think Thinktank and Mariyta could be scum too, but I want to reevaluate that tomorrow, after we see someone flip.Can't bake an omelette without killing a few people.-
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You think there are two scum groups? What's the basis for that?Cass wrote:
The right wing. Like Mafiamann claims, which makes me think again about some things.Rage wrote: @Cass,
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Not in any of the locations that have been mentioned, so this most likely confirms your mysterious 'fifth location that will be used later
Where do you stay at night?
I asked MM if he had reason to think anyone was lying. Sekinj chose to answer my question as well.sekinj wrote:
Cass: I know that someone feels obligated to tell lies. But that is all I know.
What exactly was this in response to?
Also, I think they are probably both scum. I don't think they are in the same group, which would explain why Qwints is attacking MM so aggressively. I do not want a no lynchat all, and will switch my vote without hesitation to avoid it. But right now, that needs the help of one other player...
I think Thinktank and Mariyta could be scum too, but I want to reevaluate that tomorrow, after we see someone flip.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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You are correct.Gremwell wrote:I thought there were only 3 letters you sent out rage.
Night 0 = Letter sent to Sekinj, letter received by Sekinj
Night 1 = Letter sent to Gremwell, letter not received by Gremwell
Night 2 = Letter sent to Mariyta, letter received by MariytaI'm a rageaholic! I just can't live without rageahol!-
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I just don't agree that either of them were in a tight enough spot to turn on each other like that in this game.Mariyta wrote:
Scum do it all the time. When they get in a tight spot, they pick the scummiest of their teammates and throw them under the bus. It makes them seem like town because "scum wouldn't go after their own", and they get to live another day.sekinj wrote:
just give me some theories about why they would be trying to buss each other right now.Mariyta wrote:@Sekinj: Yes, I've already posted how they could easily be related. Watch any cheesy medieval movie and you'll see the queen/baroness/other token powerful female teamed up with the magician/sorcerer/enchanter/what-have-you. It's a very common theme, and very easy to do.Show-sekinj
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That's fine. I feel they were. qwints may not have had the votes, but the pressure and overwhelming accusation was there.sekinj wrote:
I just don't agree that either of them were in a tight enough spot to turn on each other like that in this game.Mariyta wrote:
Scum do it all the time. When they get in a tight spot, they pick the scummiest of their teammates and throw them under the bus. It makes them seem like town because "scum wouldn't go after their own", and they get to live another day.sekinj wrote:
just give me some theories about why they would be trying to buss each other right now.Mariyta wrote:@Sekinj: Yes, I've already posted how they could easily be related. Watch any cheesy medieval movie and you'll see the queen/baroness/other token powerful female teamed up with the magician/sorcerer/enchanter/what-have-you. It's a very common theme, and very easy to do.
@Cass: Huh? You think they're both scum, but not in the same group, but you don't think there's two scum groups, but you think there could be masons? Logic, please?Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Qwints, is there anything you'd like to say about post 755? You've made two posts since, so I'm wondering if yet again I have an accurate read on what you have said.
Qwints, you've made two posts since I posed #755. Are you sure there's nothing you'd like to say about it?I'm a rageaholic! I just can't live without rageahol!-
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You're right. I looked at the avatar, and for some reason thought it was Cass's. My apologies, Cass. Still looking for your answer to my previous question.qwints wrote:Maryita, I think you're mixing mine and Cass's posts.
Cass suggested that there might be two scum groups. I said I didn't think there were two scum groups, but that there might be a group of pro-town players that was working together.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Gremwell & Pimhel: Pick a wagon, or you'll be high on my sh** list tomorrow(game). You have no excuse as town to not be on one side or the other at this point. Deadline is tomorrow (real-time) and we will NOT have a no-lynch again just because some people are lazy or scared. Get your butts in gear.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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