I hate miller claims for the earlier reasons stated. Though the only logic I see for the uncle sam poster is that uncle sam is supposed to be a good guy but a lot of poeple don't like him and associate his picture with the military or a draft which is seen as bad. I have no clue what any of that has to do with us as women though.
Well, this is her first note of claim skepticism, but to be fair she's consistent about it as far as I can tell. Of course, scum would want to avoid claimants being taken at face value, but that's WIFOMy and this is at best a null tell, and possibly slightly pro town.
For mirth's question: I honestly don't know what I would do if I was miller, I've seen the role a total of two times and niether of the games a finished for me to know if it was scum trick or honesty. So Yeah not sure which I would do. Like I said before I don't like a miller claim, but if in the situation I might calim.
I still don't like this since you can assumably extrapolate given the role info. It feels slightly evasive :S.
Basically thus far, as falcone pointed out, I'm not finding anything overly suspicous, nor anything overly town. Though I don't see how that deserves an FOS, I play rather caustiously. Though if you asked me to pick at this point it would almost be random. There has been good discussion but not many slips or anything that caught my eye. So far the juice seems to have been meta gaming which I don't really like to implement.
It's scummy to fence sit, but this was early game. Knowing Mirth's alignment it was a semi relevant point :S.
Forgotting who mod is I can understand, since in another game I just asked for a prod on the mod.
But having lurkers as your top lynch canidates doesn't seem that helpful, just because they are lurkers doesn't mean they are scum, so if lurking is the fault you have I don't see how that in itself is worthy of a lynch.
Fair point. Feels more pro town.
On my re-read I actually see why she asked for a counter-claim. If someone countered that would be gurgi was most likly scum making it up. Miller is not a very risky thing to claim since it's so rare, but it is possible scum would try it and might get counter-calimed. (confirmed in post 98)
I see why a miller would be a douchebag, everyone hates douche's but they are good(sort of). I think the picture just happens to be uncle sam. You google "douchebag" and the third image is that uncle sam one.
You get rid of your skepticism here. I guess it's a fair reaction because you can't be too bull headed stubborn but, it's kinda odd.
I find it a very false statement. If he is telling the truth, we lose a townie. Which is not a win, it is in fact a lose. Just ebcause he isn't a power role doesn't mean he is completly disposable.
This is pro town as hell (Heck, that's why I liked the DBE lynch)
very poor reasoning. FoS admiral I can't see any townie writing some one off as confirmed this early. Falcone and Gurgi both touched on this.
This as well. Your D1 is looking good so far for your first 11 posts :S.
Mariyta has given up without even trying, a little bothersome. And I hate metagame but it's not how I have seen her act in another game recently.
Haha, not even you can escape META!!!! (Btw, was she town or scum there?)
It's not just that she isn't participating, mirth, it's that she is doing so blatantly. Most of her posts are promises for more posts, or her saying she is too busy to post.
Given Mari's alignment, this is either early bussing or another pro town point. Slight pro town point.
I agree it was weak. I said I was merely satisfied for now. For one thing the fact that she did actually need a prod to post was something I was testing, because we have all been in those games where you say X is lurking and then a few posts later X is posting a fairly good analysis or atleast one that isn't a promise for more. I personally think that for now(this may change) she isn't the best lynch candidate. Also, it may just be she wasn't paying attention, which isn't a good thing but it does happen. So that makes me think either she is a townie with a vanilla role and doesn't feel that invested, or she is very bad lazy scum. Based on this I'm more interested in the case on spacecase. Yes, I'm not the only one to ask those questions, but (s)he has yet to answer them from what I see.
Also spacecase is obviously noticeing the votes on him, that is where I called him a her, so I expect responses doubly quick with the deadline being in 3 days(10 if a replacement occurs)
Good points...I'm not sure how to take it since we don't know spacecase/Incog's alignment for sure (though I'm PRETTY sure Incog is town, so this could be setting the seed for a lynch that backfired...however, everyone was getting on spacecase...null tell)
Really this is another calim you can't prove in any manner, even if a partner speaks up it would just be scum.
unvote not inclined to want him lynched at this moment.
Protown move.
welcome forbidden light, you are already doing better than xyzzy
OBVTOWN! Holy hell, I've been so wrong all game! Obviously it has to be viv. Sorry to have bothered you nonny! (I kid, I kid)
My opinion on that matter for now is the same. I can't honestly say if i'd go one way or the other. Just because you are more decisive doesn't mean I have that skill. I think thing through a lot and i'm still back on forth on the issue.
Nice posting and actually doing something when you say you will ^.^
Nyeh, I still don't like this explanation, but it's a play style dispute. And yeah, too bad I couldn't keep that up here :S. (I really, REALLY hate PBPA)
Up to post 37 (end of D1, beginning D2), I have to conclude you played a townie D1. Let me continue now.
hmm i'm going to have to review what is happening. While I think it's and interesting case I don't like how forbidden(and falcone) are condemning her on the spot without prompting any discussion. If day is our best asset against the scum why not provoke the use of it and not encourage poeple to bandwagon.
forgot this in previous post. FoS Lord Gurgi for blatant bandwagoning.
I was right though. This is why I wish I had the sense to listen to my gut initially. Good point on LG. Either way, another good post.
To a point yes, forbiddenlight. But like I said you are so difinative on farside being scum. Do you have no questions or things you want her to respond to. Do you have any inklings on pairings or maybe new hindsight with her interaction with mirth? I'm not trying to nesscarily help out farside, I want to hear from her too. But I just don't like it when "townies" are so difinative without reason, it's a pet peeve.
Gets me in a lot of trouble too. I often use it anyway for reaction strength. We have a lot of playstyle disputes it seems, lol. But, this is a fairly good post too :S.
Mostly this is what is bothersome. While it's helpful yes, to say no hammer till everyone has posted. It's also strong, forced. The "push with certainty" especailly is bothersome, how can you be certain? You say you list is the same as yesterday, meaning niether or the deaths have change anything in the game? You have no desire to read through with the known ailgnments of two players and see any intereations or anything. It just feels/sounds odd to me.
Nyeh, I probably answered this then but I'm notoriously lazy. I also don't think it would have changed much :S.
huh? that makes not a lick of sense. Reword please! Right now it reads as 1.) YOu are place on farside's LoS because "I was being scummy but because I suspected her and wasn't giving much to support it," 2.) She does the same thing as herself as an OMGUS and you are on her list.......0.o huh?
You request to be killed is flat out bad. If you are so sure farside is scum why would you rather be the lynch then her? Or are you trying to see if there is a vig or otherwise out there? Either way it's pointless, stupid, and bad play. Nor does it show you as being town which i think is what you intended it to appear as.
It's not precisely all bad, though vig fishing is. I think it's a fair solution, but it costs us a townie so it's not something I'd advocate. I understand what he's trying to do. This post is either null or a little pro town. Actually, maybe more so since you are probing everyone.
Damn, D2 was good as well. I'm beginning to think that my impression was way off :S. But still...my gut doesn't like you is all.
Also, forbiddenlight is right. Ussually when you are wrong you atleast re-assess your suspcisions of the person you are going after.
The overall idea of reassessment is pro town, but of course I'm giving you more brownie points for it since I proposed it
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The posts concerning a bus driver were weird speculation, but not scummy really.
Because I was activeduring that list and saw it happen. This last lynch I had some problems getting on line to check on things. Also DBE lynch took the full autodeadline time, where as admiral lynch was much quicker and seemingly came from no where. The DBE lynch some poeple had been suspecting her for quite some time and then she became the deadline lynch.
Really I'm not getting much out of re-reading the bandwagon. It just sprang up from no where and easily picked up momentum. Similar to how the farside wagon started earlier. Though I still don't understand you incognito, and how you can be so very wrong on the admiral but still feel confidant on farside, I mean sure it can happen if you are looked for indepeant scum and not partners, but does nothing make you readjust your though proccess? This isn't nessaciraly scummy, just very odd and making me look closer at you.
This begins to feel town vs. town, another playstyle argument. To be honest, your scumdar goes off more often on dissimilar playstyles to your own more often than not. Just an observation.
Day 3 is pretty good as well. Though I don't like how you dropped off somewhat early in it. (This might be a false observation and I plan to check it.)
Anyways, We have 5 poeple alive. 2 scum dead. Most likely one scum left. Odds are in our favor. So we aren't even in lynch or lose yet which is very good. Hmmmm I would like to see if everyone wants to do a scumlist?
Well, I'm not sure at this point how much the theory counts, but I was recently reminded that scum lists telegraph good targets to the scum as well as giving them case fodder. Could be anti town, MAYBE not scummy. I don't like it, but I also didn't remember the theory til recently.
Forbiddan-- hard to read, likes to answer for incognito. xxyzz was a bad lurker, some what suspicious. Has had vote on every lynch. Leaning Scum
LG-- miller claim, been on all bandwagons(except DBE but announced he would hammer) changed quickly from farside to admiral. Easily persuaded? Neutral Leaning Scum
Viv--Post seem like she is trying extra hard to be nice and not step on toes. nuetral
Incog-started admiral wagon, confirmed mason via falcone not confirmed town, wants everyone active. Good logic in posts. Leaning Town
LG as scum is an angle I might want to consider, actually. I skimmed over your post after you had me as scum. Such a travesty
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Basically, you've played a pro town game, and I don't know why I suspected you. I guess the infrequency addled my scum dar. I no longer suspect you. I'll probably do Viv and Gurgi later. I might do Incog too since rereading has been rather enlightening.
