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[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

Hub are you scum this game

be honest

your vibes are off

nope! what vibes are you feeling are off?

[Gretchen]

1) yes
2) italiano
3) Cookie Monster
4) i'd ask in the beginning what actually went down in the beginning
5) idk

[Gretchen]

OH you were fulfilling my request for questions lmao. i was so confused why you sent a survey my way... keep them coming lol

[Gamma Emerald]

idr the name and tbh I don't even want to talk about it, that was one of the two most toxic games I ever played in, this is already a much better game

Was that from when you originally played?

[Gamma Emerald]

Hub are you scum this game

be honest

your vibes are off

Honestly I got a real bad vibe from you Ydrasse

[Lunar Martian]

Hub are you scum this game

be honest

your vibes are off

Honestly I got a real bad vibe from you Ydrasse

Elaborate?

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

it was this game gamma -- viewtopic.php?f=56&t=82624

I was Cena and Savage, I... honestly don't even remember who I was hydraing with too lol

[In the beginning]

@Samantha: who claimed tracker. I didn’t see that at all.

This post is off because Italian seems rather intent on playing ignorant here when he ought to know exactly what samantha was referring to. (Like, I could understand missing it on an initial pass, but surely Italiano would take the time to look back when someone mentions it rather than just pretend it never happened.)

when it's that obvious it stops being a crumb

What if I'm trying to use reverse psychology?

since my althunt here is jot developed yet

Or... You could not alt hunt...

So it looks like I’m out of my league here. Page 9 was about alternates. I don’t have a clue. How many alternates are there? Is everyone?

This is also really out of place. Maybe 15% of the content on that page dealt with alts. How come then is that what Italiano gets out of the page?

I also think you should be voting italiano since that is a much more realistic and much likely better cw to yourself than gretchen

According to you right? Fmpov you’re wrong.

Empty comment that just fills up space.

Anyone else have kinda non-town thoughts about Sam?

Eh not really. What they did was anti-town, not really scum indicative. I wouldn't hard veto a wagon there, but I wouldn't join it either.

lolhammering motherfucker

Reaction reads as fake/contrived.

[In the beginning]

In the beginning probably hammers

Why do you think I would hammer there? That'd be like a death sentence.

I made my case on you

Where? And you already have one this early in the game?

there is without a doubt 1 mafia in the first four voters of funeral imho

I don't see your point. That's fundamentally a WIFOM argument (and I disagree that wagon dynamics work that way early in the game), but regardless, the odds are in favor of such anyway. Thus, this tells us very little of value.

almost all of this wagon is town

This is an equally ridiculous and useless statement. There are most likely only 3 scum, so of course the wagon is predominantly town.

so as far as im concerned, until they check in, this is a 10 player game and scum is within those players

Yes, well, that's a bad assumption considering it's a 12p game. The chances scum are in the inactives is not nil.

I have no non-town thoughts about me

What's up with all the filler posts from everyone? Please conserve space please; time and space are valuable commodities.

So is samantha an alternate too? You guys all seem to know each other, but the rest of us are just looking on like...

Seriously, why are you so fixated on this? Why aren't you hunting scum?

thinking in the beginning, ydrasse, hub are town town town. funeral and italiano maf maf

I like these reads. Gretchen stays in my town pile.

I’m pretty sure Funeral is town

??? Based on _____?

there’s something about this RVS wagon becoming a serious wagon that is questionable to me.

Yikes, terrible take.

[In the beginning]

VOTE: Italiano
Lots of bad takes, unjustified statements, and weird obsessions from this slot.

Current scum team is probably something like {Italiano, esoteric, Lunar/Battle Mage} (the last is less what they've done and moreso cuz of their lack of presence.)

Town bloc is HUB and Gretchen.

[Gretchen]

happy to see my initial read on you was right! you can have my heart, just lock it up in a freezer and keep it fresh <3. but uh. yeah. there's a lot wrong w italiano and you highlighted some of the other reasons

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

Oh that was because I was wrong on your main, I thought you were someone else that would definitely hammer someone at f-1 d1

[Gretchen]

I also think you should be voting italiano since that is a much more realistic and much likely better cw to yourself than gretchen

According to you right? Fmpov you’re wrong.

This is your towniest posting yet tbh

But you'll notice I did not vote you over the goose, I was more indicating to the goose what I thought he should do

like that was actually one of his worst posts hub. it did nothing but state the obv, like, what did that post do? did it try and convince you he's town? did he say why that was a bad idea in a way that can convince anyone? no. and the 'fmpov' feels off

[In the beginning]

What do you want to know?

Definitely doesn't help your case... You should be more proactive.

fyi I'm kinda chill with the italiano wagon but am thinking of going for cookie monster myself

Why Cookie? They haven't done much yet, so I'm not sure why your are motivated to go there over Italiano.

It's quite possible for newbie scum to just look like newbie scum.

Nah, I disagree. Newbscum wouldn't be that blatant. They get coaching from their teammates.

I don't understand how you can reach a conclusion someone is obvtown, but also anyone pushing them is looking for an easy lim - doesn't make sense.

Well, obviously, I exaggerated some. But that aside, I stand by it---that style of posting/entrance is exactly the thing that scum leap on. It's easy to paint a narrative around it, and if it flips town (as I believe it would), scum can blame it on their play.

Funeral conftown then.

You're reading in too much. Funeral is 100%

NOT

confirmed town.

what the....low activity players? the game opened today

I agree with this sentiment. People's activity expectations are really unreasonable nowadays.

Gretchen / Battle Mage / ItalianoVD

Cookie Monster

Funeral Goose

Why is Cookie so low?

Because town is not supposed to be voted I thought?

This is a bad response, but potentially townie given my early observation about this slot. I will have to watch them carefully.

wait what there's

HOW

many on goose?

It was the same in the last vote count and you are just realising the second time?

Good observation; it makes esoteric's comment all the more strange.

I am going to claim Vanilla Townie.

Talk about not crumbing correctly... This is certainly worse.

Don't like Gretchen, and I don't buy the act of both saying "keep me alive I'm very good"

Is it bad that I thought this was a Battle Mage-esque take?

[Gretchen]

Oh that was because I was wrong on your main, I thought you were someone else that would definitely hammer someone at f-1 d1

what's the f stand for?

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

Cookie low because no townpings yet

@gretch -- I just liked him saying 'wrong' over omgusing.

F for 'flip'

[Gretchen]

i wanna flip a pancake

[Ydrasse]

Hub are you scum this game

be honest

your vibes are off

nope! what vibes are you feeling are off?

it’s your aura....

[Ydrasse]

Hub are you scum this game

be honest

your vibes are off

Honestly I got a real bad vibe from you Ydrasse

Lockscum.

[Gretchen]

Meh this is boring, let’s start up another wagon

VOTE: Lunar Martian

We don’t want him feeling left out.

Hello Funeral Goose! How are you?

So funeral goose is the only player on the list huh?

Why me?

No. Why not you?

Esoteric would be town for that post but I can't townblock them until they explain wtf a zoomer is and why they chose that name

boomer but backwards

What is remoob?

*shrinks in size*
Better?

UNVOTE:
thank you im claustrophobic

If you’re gonna unvote at least revote for someone cool.

I do remember the <3

You still read like scum to me

<3

Do they now? What reads like scum to you?

hi
VOTE: funeral goose

That’s it?

Meh this is boring, let’s start up another wagon

why did you out yourself and goose on day 1 post 1

Because our partner has it on lock.

yooooooohoooooo

VOTE: italianovd

Long time no see Ydrasse. Good to see you again.

good to see you again too! how’ve your been? how’s the red pm this game?

Oh yeah I’m good. And the red pm is fine I think. I’m color blind so who knows what it is.

red in spirit for the bloodlust

What do you mean by this?

heeeeeeeeeeeeeey. first things first let me tell you about myself. so. going into this i was really scared of rolling maf, like terrified. i haven’t played in a good while so i'd prob be really rusty and get power elimmed LOL. so you have no idea how happy i was when i saw that sweet sweet sugary green. and uh. gonna be real i don’t think i know how to play as maf anymore and i'd prob ask my team to throw me under the bus, like, instantly on day 1 lmao. but i'm town!! all is right in the world and i'm town town TOWN

Okay, bold. I kinda like it. What are your thoughts on samantha or Ydrasse? Anything?

i see a lot of peeps voting funeral which prob means he's being thrown under the bus already? don't know if we'll get a lot from it for finding his partners then. idk. killing maf is the goal tho so it's not all bad

Main reason why I started a new wagon.

what the hell is happening in here

What are you expecting to happen in here?

the pms don’t have color but yours is red in spirit

(you seemed stilted so i called you mafia)

I don’t have a problem with that, I’d be more suspicious if you townread me. I’ll prove you wrong though.

BTW it wouldn’t have anything to do with my avatar hmm?

so you have no idea how happy i was when i saw that sweet sweet sugary green.

I didn't have any green in my town PM.

wait. what? are you claiming maf?

According to Ydrasse, samantha, and zoomer they didn’t have colors in their pms.

idrk about samantha or ydrasse yet. well. maybe they feel a little maf but idk, i don't wanna put a lot of confidence in it. that might just be bc ik i'm biased in thinking the quieter players are more maf, but it not always be like that

Okay. Fair enough. We’ll probably end up circling back to this before the day is out.

i just don't see maf voting to kill a partner like that straight away bc people like following the crowd

Isn’t that all the more reason to do it? Towncred and all that? I tend to slightly agree that they’re probably not both scum, but I’m also not ruling it out.

seriously i'm town. i wouldn't be playing like this as maf, i'd just be shutting up and letting everyone else do the talking

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SELF-META

Does it bring back memories?

What do you do Ydrasse?

what so one of them looks better if the other is revealed as maf? uhhh it might be, but idk if it's worth having one of them die in the first place, like, is that a worthwhile trade?

Yes. It’s generally what happens especially if it happens early, especially on Day 1. You appear to be kinda new and I always like to let newbies know to never disregard what’s unlikely as if it could never happen. Don’t use it as a full read, but just keep it in the back of your mind, so that you don’t ever get duped (okay SE hat off). Also not sure if it’s ever a good trade, but scum have their own strange reasons for doing what they do.

i’m in accounting and my work is best described as this:

Lol ugh, not sure if it’s worse than sales (cold calling).

Anyway, was just curious.

Gretchen is obviously town and anyone voting them should be ashamed for such an awful read.

Not sure about obvious. I’m not gonna locktown anyone yet.

I want to vote you

mindmeld

can you townslip to me real fast so i know it’s real...

Obvious pocket? Come on.

pocket?

Yes. It means when scum try to “mindmeld” with townies given the fact that townies like being townread and when people agree with them. Zoomer, you’ve been following Ydrasse around like a lost puppy dog what’s up with that?

also are we all ignoring that tracker claim so that mafia don't see it or something even though mafia already did immediately

Huh? What’d I miss?

@Gretchen: You can highlight what you want in a post and press quote. It will only quote what you highlighted. 177 is gonna get longer and longer, lol

@Samantha: who claimed tracker. I didn’t see that at all.

cause im like a fucking duckling, follow the first person i see lol

in all seriousness no i haven't been

Are we still in RVS cause I’m leaving if we are.

VOTE: esotericzoomer

WOAH THAT'S WILD
makes life so much easier wtf

Oh you didn’t know that? Well you’re welcome.

honestly I feel like the people defending Gretchen off the bat could be scum whiteknighting town
Itb is an obvious culprit, I think I saw something from you that felt that way too

Okay, well what are your thoughts on funeral goose?

WOAH THAT'S WILD
makes life so much easier wtf

Oh you didn’t know that? Well you’re welcome.

funny segue

I concur.

@ItalianoVD (to reduce quote wall)

Must every statement be questioned? It is a fundamental, unalterable fact here. Gretchen town claimed in their first two posts; therefore, she is town.

Tread carefully scum, for I am tracking each and every step you make.

Oh I did see that, but I guess I missed it. I was more focused on the Gretchen townlock. Interesting how you picked up on it though.

honestly I feel like the people defending Gretchen off the bat could be scum whiteknighting town
Itb is an obvious culprit, I think I saw something from you that felt that way too

Okay, well what are your thoughts on funeral goose?

wanna see more from him before I unvote

But you feel he’s scum right? Or was that RVS?

So it looks like I’m out of my league here. Page 9 was about alternates. I don’t have a clue. How many alternates are there? Is everyone?

I also think you should be voting italiano since that is a much more realistic and much likely better cw to yourself than gretchen

According to you right? Fmpov you’re wrong.

So it looks like I’m out of my league here. Page 9 was about alternates. I don’t have a clue. How many alternates are there? Is everyone?

There's at least 4

At least 4?


I don’t know about all that. You guys seem to know each other. I’ll just play the game as normal, but I’m guessing we’re gonna be disagreeing a lot.

Anyone else have kinda non-town thoughts about Sam?

I do.

i also refuse to believe that this wagon magically appears out of thin air without mafia interaction

It didn’t really appear out of thin air. It’s been there for most of the day, but I do agree with the premise.

Yeah it's nagl especially since I'm not giving him a day if 'gutscum sam' is the depth of thought he's going to give at f-1

So is samantha an alternate too? You guys all seem to know each other, but the rest of us are just looking on like...

i thought me being maf meant cookie was town

So let me get it right. Gretchen voted for Goose for voting for Cookie. Goose voted for Gretchen for misrepresenting her case. 58 is scummy and this Goose wagon is real? Like that’s what we’re going with today? And what about Cookie? There’s not a lot of content to do anything with that slot, unless of course that’s an alternate as well.

I don’t know what’s going on, but I feel something must come of this. If not for just reactions.

VOTE: Gretchen

I keep thinking italiano is notsci when I see his pfp

Oh no you don’t. I’m 100% homegrown ItalianoVD.

What does the vd stand for?

I’ve played the wolf game variation on a boxing game site and my username is Italiano. There is a player who purposely loses fights to everyone and his name is voodoo. Some of us pay homage to him by placing the VD tag on it. I guess it’s just stuck with me all this time.

italiano why do you think 58 is scummy?

I don’t know if it is or not. Others are saying it is. The tone of 328 is sort of me facetiously agreeing.

Plus you voted for me anyway, so what are you talking about?

so uh. why're you voting me? town can have maf looking posts and i'm victim to that more often than i'd like to admit lol. others are saying it's a scummy post but it doesn't mean i'm maf. and why not vote for something you believe is maf rather than something others believe?

I’m pretty sure Funeral is town, and there’s something about this RVS wagon becoming a serious wagon that is questionable to me. So I’m voting for what I believe is non-town.

I would take a look at Hub, Gamma, or Ydrasse if Funeral does flip town.

I’m already voting you.

Why do you feel pretty sure in funeral town?

Mainly gut. His posts just have a townie feel, but of course I don’t know his main account/alter ego/tells, so I’m just going by what I have in this game.

Plus you voted for me anyway, so what are you talking about?

what do you mean?

You voted for me earlier out of the blue.

how's that relevant to your given reasons for voting me? you never asked why i voted you. oh. i didn't like you not bringing that up either

It’s NOT relevant and it doesn’t correlate. I’m pointing it out since you were acting surprised that I voted you. I was stating, how you could you act in this manner when you voted for me. And I didn’t mention it because I wanted to see how you would develop it.

[In the beginning]

Question of the

day

hour

next fifteen minutes: Why did ITB check whether Cookie Monster had signed up for newbie queue games?

Why wouldn't I? I mean, you're quite obviously doing a lot of alt hunting yourself. Given that Cookie had only like 3 or so posts total at that time, it's not that hard to just search their posts and see "Oh, she inned to a newbie". I do like to know if a slot is an alt ot a newbie, just not who they are if they are an alt.

italiano was quite active and chatty right up until i started calling for votes on him and asked him some tough questions. that speaks volumes if you ask me. which you should because i'm good at answering questions

It's possible this just isn't a time they're active. I wouldn't leap to conclusions too soon. (That said, they've done plenty of other scum-indicative stuff, so the read is probably still right even if the reasons aren't.)

Cookie low because no townpings yet

Just to clarify, is that still the case? Cuz if so, I don't agree.

*snip*

Oh my, I didn't realize Italiano had so many posts at this point. That's a red flag given the level of content I've seen from the slot.

[esotericzoomer]

Spoiler: big

heeeeeeeeeeeeeey. first things first let me tell you about myself. so. going into this i was really scared of rolling maf, like terrified. i haven’t played in a good while so i'd prob be really rusty and get power elimmed LOL. so you have no idea how happy i was when i saw that sweet sweet sugary green. and uh. gonna be real i don’t think i know how to play as maf anymore and i'd prob ask my team to throw me under the bus, like, instantly on day 1 lmao. but i'm town!! all is right in the world and i'm town town TOWN

also another thing about me is that i always find maf if you give me enough time. like, i will always find them no matter how good they are. lying is tiring and maf will always always always wear down over time. if you know what yyo're looking for you’ll see when that happens, like when they start to lose energy and start posting less, and that's what i’ll use to find tthem. what i'm saying here is... basically, is that even if you think i'm maf you should give me a few days. cuz if i'm town i'm sure as hell gonna find you the team. so yeah

These posts are both clearly from a town slot. This just isn't something scum does; scum aren't going to flash a bright neon attention sign on themselves, not this early in the game. Therefore, Gretchen is lock town Day 1 from these posts alone. Anyone pushing here is scum trying to get an easy lim, and I won't stand for it.

Saying gretchen is locktown for these posts is pushing it. It looks like you're trying to push a too scummy to be scum narrative, that's an objectively flawed towntell.

so you have no idea how happy i was when i saw that sweet sweet sugary green. and uh. gonna be real i don’t think i know how to play as maf anymore and i'd prob ask my team to throw me under the bus, like, instantly on day 1 lmao. but i'm town!! all is right in the world and i'm town town TOWN

Scum aren't ever that careless; at the very least, they aren't more careless than town is at that sort of thing. Do some actual hunting, rather than this shallow analysis of a purported slip.

you're reading too far into it

VOTE: Gretchen
fearmongering

Awful vote that comes from scum. You saw a target, and you went straight for it. I'll be watching you closely, that's for sure.

Gretchen decided it was a great idea to directly call funeral a bad player for scumreading her, I was wrong calling it fearmongering but I did correct myself by saying it's appeal to ridicule, which it is. Scum!Gretchen knows funeral is town so ignoring the part where she makes some omgus claim that he has to be scum for voting her, she would make that post purely to ridicule funeral.

wait what there's

HOW

many on goose?

5, obviously. What's so surprising?

That's L-2, there's no reason he should be on L-2. That's why I'm questioning the legitimacy of this wagon by saying there's defo scum on it, like it was an RvS wagon..

Not sure about obvious. I’m not gonna locktown anyone yet.

Obvious does not imply lock town, but yes, you should be lock-towning Gretchen for day 1 at the very least.

no

uh, my role card said, um, town, or something

So stilted. Watch me catch all the scum day 1, starting with yours truly!

If you weren't so oblivious to clear jokes I'd probably be pushing you but scum wouldn't use jokes as an excuse for content

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

gretch uhh please don't multiquote entire isos plz

[esotericzoomer]

VT all the way.

I havr FOS on Gret and Sam. Gamma and HUB town. The rest are still null.

VOTE: Funeral

This was NOT hammer.

Funeral conftown then.

How?

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

Cookie I guess I would say has not made any posts yet that I'd say are consistently town but they still may very well be town