In post 3, Alisae wrote:real talk tho
lets talk about mechancis
I have no idea how to play this setup and I don't want to turn my brain on to think about it so...
I'd think
Alisae
regardless of alignment would be invested with alternative wincons, so for them to follow-up on a mechanical discussion they began in
29 and 30 makes this seem like a genuine thought project rather than a means to gain thread control.
First interaction,
BM
immediately works with
Alisae
upon their
38 proposition.
54 reinforces that
BM
takes this plan in good faith.
This doesn't feel S/S at all. Unless they improvised a plan involving too much role speculation I refuse to dive into now, both of them are restricting themselves a lot N1 by publicly accepting how they do their tasks.
And they're the first, there's no clear indication in the thread that everybody will just march to the beat of their drum.
It feels unnecessary for these posts to come from both as scum.
Vote is reasonable.
89 was when
Reck
came in to just doing nothing... on page 4.
In post 167, Alisae wrote:I could be wrong but I think being okay with a no lynch but also being not okay with claiming actions feels like a weird combination to come from scum
Gives
Cakez
benefit of the doubt. Something to note for later.
243 by
BM
and
387 by
Alisae
feel asynchronous.
BM
casually comments on
OWER
painting
Pooky/Alisae
as scum and yet
Alisae
outlines their thoughts to
OWER
in a constructive manner that is removed from doubtcasting
OWER's
intentions.
This is another point for non-S/S but I think this leans to
Alisae
town a bit. My experience with scum-them is that they're quite to control perception and opening up to
OWER
is the opposite of that because they're literally giving someone else control of the game's narrative.
Alisae
also questions
OWER
and... as I have context to how they think as I've recently hydra'd with them.... no alarms are sounding with their inquiry.
In post 430, Alisae wrote:meh
too early to tell
if ur scum u'll obvscum if ur town u'll obvtown me thinks
Very lax take on
Titus
, good to document.
This may be 100+ posts ago but if
Alisae/BM
S-S ever existed... they're not following each other onto wagons and are only focused with the other's thoughts via setup.
In post 624, Alisae wrote: In post 562, Taly wrote:yo ali where the wagons at or where the discussion for them at
how do you feel about the plist lumping you and pooky in the same vein together and by extension, how i am a contributor to that perception?
I don’t really care at the moment tbh
Apathetic, could be voting somewhere, isn't... first vote is at
646 on
Haschel
.
Why not jump into the young, chaotic gamestate that makes Large Themes insane? Doesn't. Sensible.
Also, unphased by the association to
Pooky
. This is good. This is a point against
Pooky/Alisae
S-S because I think effort would be placed into trying to dispel this thought ruminating in the thread.
Again, prompting
Pooky
when it's not necessary.
There's a trend with
BM's
posts where they continually inject the idea that they're obvtown and by implication, shouldn't warrant suspicion... I don't like this type of posting because it serves nothing to a conversation but I've seen
BM
do it as town before.
In post 827, Alisae wrote:well I thought a con was scum get to fake post restrictions, but apparently they already have a list, so this isn't a con.
the pros would be I'm not actually sure. Its fun. There we go.
If
Alisae's
scum, they're
very comfortable
, and we're fucked.
But that's too much of a paranoia-driven thought process. I don't see an agenda here.
Flippant. I'm starting to sympathize with the
BM
wagon, although, I'm unsure how NAI this statement is.
In post 841, Battle Mage wrote: In post 839, OutWorldER wrote:So I can start getting a ball rolling on something other than mechanical talk and setup speculation.
This doesn't take long to think about.
I also want to see more posting from you in general since this posting from you doesn't feel like what I've witnessed first-hand in O799.
I was the boss in that game. here I'm a pawn amongst queens.
plus i'm not big on mech talk really, and I like simple plans that people actually deliver on. the idea of doing half a massclaim and then abandoning it, is a bit wtf?
I can see this from scum POV trying to revive more information about mechanics, but
BM
began this game interacting with mechanical discussion... so this isn't surprising or worrying to read.
In post 901, Alisae wrote: In post 898, Bell wrote:@Taly,
Pooky, alisae, you (or you're doing a good job of faking some pretty detailed thoughts!), Flea,
even though I gave a warning about the doggo the doggo is still town spewing from my pov.
The rest are kinda meh, I could prolly point to weak town leans/scum leans but per post it would balance on and off.
Titus I'm rapidly vacillitating on because she looks like obv scum, but she's always scum/third party so.
Have I even played with town titus.
Oh. Yeah sort of.
a tactic scum!taly likes to use is they like to make it easier for other people to spew themselves
The post I dislike most about
Alisae's
entire ISO.
Bell
was sending an olive branch and reading me with good faith and they interject with a reason to doubtcast that.
I also feel like it's a slight misrep because I bring people to spew regardless of my alignment. Me getting information from others is not what's specifically AI, it's what I do with/during/before/after that information.
I don't fault
Alisae
though... I'm a hard metaread.
In post 921, Alisae wrote: In post 904, Bell wrote:Maybe I just really like Flea's posting this game and I'm biased tho.
So you're saying that Taly is good at being scum? Aight.
missed this.
They can be. Idunno if you saw my MtG thread but I came out of a scum hydra with them. Their scumplay is fairly green. TBH when we hydra'd, they told me something that I needed to look out and to kill them on site if they do it but I don't recall what that is for the life of me.
I think I have an idea on how to catch scum!Taly if it exists in this game but if that world exists, it won't be until a wolf before him dies.
This is another reason why I didn't push
Alisae
.
I think looking at me at a later day is a valid way to sort me if I don't get nightkilled... I just hope
Alisae
isn't posting this as a precursor to case me when it's most viable to lim me.
I mean, I've only been caught as scum via associations and busses before... and I'm mislimmed more often.
But relatively speaking, I don't get limmed often at all.
In post 954, Alisae wrote: In post 953, Taly wrote: In post 921, Alisae wrote: In post 904, Bell wrote:Maybe I just really like Flea's posting this game and I'm biased tho.
So you're saying that Taly is good at being scum? Aight.
missed this.
They can be. Idunno if you saw my MtG thread but I came out of a scum hydra with them. Their scumplay is fairly green. TBH when we hydra'd, they told me something that I needed to look out and to kill them on site if they do it but I don't recall what that is for the life of me.
I think I have an idea on how to catch scum!Taly if it exists in this game but if that world exists, it won't be until a wolf before him dies.
i dont remember saying something
exactly
like
"kill me on sight if i do something"
, but i might have.
i cant tell if your take on me is to be pragmatic knowing what im capable of, or youre positioning around me since your approach to me right now is to shelve me.
basically, are you taking to me in good faith here? i feel like ive had more posts directed to or about you than otherwise, so i want to know if the distance is intentional.
atm ur just completely not on my radar
Fair. I admit and I think I told
Alisae
that I fall into the background often as scum.
But this isn't very intentional, if my word means anything here, it's a large theme.
In post 976, Alisae wrote: In post 974, TheGoldenParadox wrote: In post 972, Blitzo wrote:My second thought was that TGP was entirely forgettable.
I might let that develop for a bit and see what happens.
obviously i can't prove this, but i think blitzo wrote this AFTER previewing and faked it so they didn't
what the fuck
My thoughts exactly.
1240 is an interesting take from
Alisae
onto
Haschel
. They're a scumread (I presume) and yet
Alisae
sees a post that they don't agree with and decides not to push it further.
In post 1243, Alisae wrote: In post 1138, OutWorldER wrote:Ali is a known powerwolf and wants to manipulate the gamestate/narrative to eir advantage and the fact that they were one of the first people pushing No Eliminate plan makes me suspicious.
I'M NOT EVEN DOING ANY OF THAT
omg
im malding
In post 1249, Alisae wrote: In post 1179, Titus wrote:Can we move on to no elimination and compliance? I am bored and this feels like an RVS that will last forever.
HOLY SHIT TITUS
NO
STOP
LET PEOPLE SCUMHUNT IF THEY WANT TO THERE'S NO HARM IN THAT.
lmfao
Alisae's
rage caps are even funnier with this interaction. They call themselves out to
Flea
. Town does this more often than scum if they feel a read on them doesn't make sense, and
1443 is a later vote so this post - in context - may be affecting
Alisae's
read on
Flea
adversely.
In post 1280, Battle Mage wrote:
Taly, come to Electrical tonight.
Titus reads all over the place here - unusual for her.
Ignoring the baiting from Flea - I have been pulling out some great reads so far imho.
>
Interested in working with me.
>
Knowing the
1440 vote progression on
Titus
, makes me wonder if this was in some form a planned vote. Although, I did agree with
BM
here.
>
I also agree with
BM's
take to
Flea
, it's hard to figure out what their thoughts are on
BM
because it's veiled in walls mainly looking at posts rather than
BM
as a whole.
I don't think
BM
has really accomplished much specifically with their wagon but perhaps that's a playstyle disparity between us and how we think?
In post 1285, Battle Mage wrote:also I'd missed your post Taly, but I havent really bothered explaining reads as the game is moving so fast, and it isn't like anyone is sheeping me right now
at some point when things calm down, I'll collate everything and decide what to do.
In the meantime I guess I just need to avoid getting elimmed myself haha
my townblock is pretty good: Pooky, Cakez, Gamma, TGP, Akarin were in there, I forget who else. I can buy OutWorldER as town from those voting me. Leaning town on Alisae too.
DGB is doing pretty standard scum tactic of just tunnelling someone they see as an easy target. Titus is a bit erratic but also distant and doesn't feel as invested in the game - more in line with scum vibe than town vibe. Blitzo has been scummy but he also feels like the sort of player who scum would push as a cheap mis-elim. Flea is doing a lot of that LAMISTy stuff but it's superficial - long ISO cases which don't strike a balanced objective line, are a scum move I've used many times in my youth.
Aside from
Cakez/TGP/Akarin
townread confidence strength, I mindmeld
BM
with his reads, town and scum.
I'm not sure about
Titus
but I agree with
DGB
assesment.
I'll reserve thoughts on
Flea
when I spew a D1 solve.
I detected genuine emotion from
BM's
1310 and I don't think scum angles frustration this way very often. It could've been channeled into an aggressive push and I don't think
BM
is trying to placate
Flea
just to get pressure off.
In post 1321, Battle Mage wrote:Taly-
let's just work outside of our respective townpools then. We aren't too far off each other tbh.
i've played 1 game with cakez town, and 1 game with cakez scum. In the nicest possible way, when he was scum he was completely obvscum, and when he was town he was pretty obviously town. As scum he got elimmed on Day 1 for basically trying to run a fake-meta gambit on me (as well as some other things i think). In this game, he's giving believable pro-town takes and coming across much more natural. I think cakez is sweet.
The most helpful post to me this game.
Unless
BM
is hard-attempting to pocket me, I don't know why scum-him wants to work with me when
Cakez/Titus/DGB/Akarin
have all either taken frustration to my posts, scumread me, or have had negative commentary on my POV.
...Asynchronous and D1 is halfway finished. Why go on different pushes now?
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