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[nopointinactingup]

D1

-'Damn no way there's no doctors'
-Looks through setups to see there's never been two doctors

-'Yeah, CC makes PJ super sus, time to vote'

...
-'Finding Paradise was a good game.'
-'Huh. What if there were two doctors. I should unvote.'
-'Oh, that sure looks like a hammer.'
-'Ah shit.'

d2
-'Lol derp scum. I was being dumb thinking two docs.'
-Although...'
-'Ah shit.'
-'I should probably claim.'

The problem I have with this is the line I bolded. Even if you thought that was a 1 doc - 1 scum scenario, it would be bad for town to make a 50-50 lynch on the doc there.

[nopointinactingup]

Hopkirk seems so townie with how he's figuring things out though, like when he went through all the past games to find doctors.. but i'm a little paranoid now

The thing is he would go through past games to find the number of possible doctors as both town and scum doctor enabler.

[Hopkirk]

@nopoint: ohhhh i actually get what you're saying more now! it would make sense for there to be two doctors if there was a doctor enabler as well because then both of the doctors are less powerful

@Hopkirk: why didn't you say you were doctor enabler yesterday?

The existence of a doctor enabler would explain well the existence of multiple doctors yes, though it's still a stretch for there to be two town doctors in the game. It would make much more sense if the enabler was mafia because mafia would be able to make the decision to lose one of their own to disable the doctors in town.

It's so weird you'd be suspicious of the enabler over

the second doctor

which is much more likely to be scum.

[Hopkirk]

@Hopkirk: what does CC mean?

Counterclaim, what Derp did.

D1

-'Damn no way there's no doctors'
-Looks through setups to see there's never been two doctors

-'Yeah, CC makes PJ super sus, time to vote'

...
-'Finding Paradise was a good game.'
-'Huh. What if there were two doctors. I should unvote.'
-'Oh, that sure looks like a hammer.'
-'Ah shit.'

d2
-'Lol derp scum. I was being dumb thinking two docs.'
-Although...'
-'Ah shit.'
-'I should probably claim.'

The problem I have with this is the line I bolded. Even if you thought that was a 1 doc - 1 scum scenario, it would be bad for town to make a 50-50 lynch on the doc there.

It would be great because the counterclaim is farfarfar more likely to be true and the likeliest case there is that PJ fakeclaimed and got caught out. I feel like you're not even trying to setup spec well here.

Hopkirk seems so townie with how he's figuring things out though, like when he went through all the past games to find doctors.. but i'm a little paranoid now

The thing is he would go through past games to find the number of possible doctors as both town and scum doctor enabler.

Scum me just wouldn't claim then would let town lethal Derp. Bringing the role up would be stupid because I'd be giving up a free lethal for a bit of towncred.

[nopointinactingup]

@nopoint: ohhhh i actually get what you're saying more now! it would make sense for there to be two doctors if there was a doctor enabler as well because then both of the doctors are less powerful

@Hopkirk: why didn't you say you were doctor enabler yesterday?

The existence of a doctor enabler would explain well the existence of multiple doctors yes, though it's still a stretch for there to be two town doctors in the game. It would make much more sense if the enabler was mafia because mafia would be able to make the decision to lose one of their own to disable the doctors in town.

It's so weird you'd be suspicious of the enabler over

the second doctor

which is much more likely to be scum.

Yes naturally I was suspicious of derp at the beginning of D2, but his action yesterday was consistent with his claimed role whereas I soon realized yours is not

It would be great because the counterclaim is farfarfar more likely to be true and the likeliest case there is that PJ fakeclaimed and got caught out. I feel like you're not even trying to setup spec well here.

This is really WIFOMy and I don't see town taking a risk here when doctor can still stay alive and protect and a cop claim can lynch the scum between the two doctor-claims for free.

Scum me just wouldn't claim then would let town lethal Derp. Bringing the role up would be stupid because I'd be giving up a free lethal for a bit of towncred.

It's not a little bit of towncred. Having a scum member seen as confirmed town is game winning.

[Noraa]

VOTE: Noraa
I think you're more suspicious for how aggressive you're being for no reason :<

This defense against me that just drops a vote for zero reason, does anyone think it seems towny?

[Noraa]

So here is what happened:
I sus Staarling.
Staarling immediately OMGUSes and goes off to buddy Hoppy
I sus Staarling some more
Staarling drops a vote on me for "being aggressive"

[Hopkirk]

Anyone 'town' who didn't bother checking in the 24h before the lethal doesn't deserve to survive. This includes Flubber/NP and is part of my sus.

@Noraa - Does whether or not Star is new impact on your read either way?

[Hopkirk]

It's really convenient for you to say what you'd have done at end of day NP when you hadn't been online for 60 hours and were sitting on wagon that was clearly going nowhere. That way you aren't on the lethal (or there's no lethal) and you can claim you thought whatever you wanted at the time without having had to have done it. We lethaled 2 hours before deadline, where were you the two and a half days before that?

[Noraa]

Does whether or not Star is new impact on your read either way?

no. it doesn't. you can only use the noob card if you sound like a noob. If you're able to setup spec, you're not a noob and I refuse to let that person use the newb card.

[Noraa]

I pulled the noob card hard in my first scum game and that was why I was universally TRed. AND I was an actual noob. Staarling says too many things that tell me she isn't a noob at all.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Running an impromptu d&d game, will be back later

[The Slime Collective]

Did you draw this?

Gee golly, he

is

an extrovert.
Nope, I can draw a stickman at the best.
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[The Slime Collective]

Anyone 'town' who didn't bother checking in the 24h before the lethal doesn't deserve to survive.

And here we go again. This will spam ~3 pages. Sigh.
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[The Slime Collective]

Staarling, did you play Town of Salem?
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[The Slime Collective]

4 days, 6 hours, 2 minutes

Can we do something else than
a) setup speccing
b) trying to determine alignment of slots which are mechanically very bad lynch today {hopkirk, derp}
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[The Slime Collective]

noraa was the one to start pushing Staarling?
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[Staarling]

@Noraa: i'm a noob to the site but i've played before!! it feels like you're just being aggressive because i'm new, what did i do that seems like mafia?

@Slime: i have! how can you tell?

[Staarling]

@Noraa: what caused you to change your profile picture?

[The Slime Collective]

@Slime: i have! how can you tell?

Because you googled up what strongman does.
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[Noraa]

@Noraa: what caused you to change your profile picture?

I specifically changed my signature for this. Maybe read that?

[Glitch]

I just can't believe we had a D1 doc claim, a D1 CC, we yeeted an actual town Doc and I'm the only one voting the CC'er. The scum will clearly try to steer this conversation to make it feel like the overall consensus is to just leave derp alone if he is actually scum.

We have GOT to flip Derp.
And we are NOT flipping Hopkirk.

[Noraa]

A derp flip atm is more of an info flip imo. If derp is scum, that's quite reasonable considering I've felt quite some resistance to this wagon which is very typical of red wagons. If derp isn't, the wagon is something we have to pick apart.

[The Slime Collective]

Staarling age seems to be <14 years.
I don't know how about humans, but slimes of that age are not used to handling pressure. I believe that having red role, Staarling would behave much more nervously.
{Derp, Hopkirk, Staarling} town.
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[The Slime Collective]

If you lynch Derp or Hopkirk, and they flip town, we are replacing out and replacing in as account called "We told you so".
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