Mini Theme 2161: Undertale C Open - Chara's Folly

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am I even voting for you right now?

Oh

HURT: Pooky

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Do you even know who it is if it isn't me

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Redtea did a ton of defending Elements from Puppy D1, soft stuff, like "Well I can see what Elements was seeing, I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt." I don't really think redtea took any stances where they suspected somebody.

Suji obviously left immediately

I am pretending Krazy has high WIM as scum. Okay. I know his opening play was mostly scumreading me because I was so confident he was scum. He townread Prism and Hectic. Wanted me killed over Tayl0r pretty badly. Proposed it being Tanner/Lavender later (lol). Switched to preferring Lavender.

Then begins the Tanner 1v1.

It's huge. He had 5 people in a PoE, 3 townreads, and just pushed Tanner. Puppy was in his PoE. He then tried to flip Tayl0r wagon to Hectic. Next day, he's getting super upset at Tanner for some reason and I added him to my townpool at that point.

reading through this just reminders me more and more of why we're in this situation right now. Pooky,

how

is it not you?

Krazy lets Hectic die too. Then he lets Nacho die.

I don't know. I can't see Krazy actually being scum very well because of how he reacted to anything bad that happened to him. But yes, he nor Prism really came close to pushing scum at all this game if you think about it. Ironically i think Pooky and I might be the only ones alive now who made posts where we actually suspected scum, lol. Actually, Tanner suspected Puppy correctly.

but It's a way simpler explanation that Pooky is just demolishing my feelings right now and I'm falling for him

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but It's a way simpler explanation that Pooky is just demolishing my feelings right now and I'm falling for him

i meant falling for it

or falling for him, either way works

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Isis

she likes to watch me suffer :(

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggggggggg

No matter what happens I am an idiot this game. i feel like if I'd have played more carefully we could have shot at two outside of me, probably. This is my fault this is happening, if i weren't like, idk what im doing, maybe Noraa and worstie wouldn't be voting me

I can't even say definitively who it is if it isn't you, and yet I'm trying to switch it off of you because of stupid soulread stuff that always bites me and makes me look stupid and i acknowledge that and am doing it anyway

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i am guilty of nothing, except maybe of being terrible at this game

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we're not getting out of this 1v1, are we? Should I accept this result then?

i need you to flop my ears the best you ever have as i die. i might not be around for it but please do

its probably the only thing that can make me feel better, and it'll help you too if you need it, i hope

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we're not getting out of this 1v1, are we? Should I accept this result then?

i need you to flop my ears the best you ever have as i die. i might not be around for it but please do

its probably the only thing that can make me feel better, and it'll help you too if you need it, i hope

*flops tweetie's ears*

be real if you're town you need to let me know

thank you.. don't stop until I die please

you don't even know who scum is if it isn't me. you also encouraged lav to go through with the executions on us. what use is it changing your mind now? that would just make it even more painful, wouldn't it?

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it will make it easier for me to hammer myself if I have to

I'm weak and human tweetie.

itll be okay ;c

i dont actually think we'll get down to needing the self hammering. i also think im dying here. maybe itll help prepare you for tomorrow or something.

..but i dont even know what i can give you to show you that im town.

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quiet chatty duck

Why is it me pocketing pooky and not just mutual pocketing. why do you side with him over me

dont actually answer that it's not important anymore

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itll be okay ;c

i dont actually think we'll get down to needing the self hammering. i also think im dying here. maybe itll help prepare you for tomorrow or something.

..but i dont even know what i can give you to show you that im town.

I can show you a full AtE that will prove I'm town if you want

knowing you're town for sure would just make this feel even more tragic

but by all means go ahead

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;(

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What happened with Hectic is no surprise to me. I am an open book to him, after all. I suppose I do not know why you felt the need to be approved by Hectic, nor why you responded to his suspicions by becoming afraid of him being scum.

I don't believe that I was in your sights at the beginning of today. The first name you came up with in your confusion was Prism/Alisae's, after all. Followed by the vote on Krazy. Followed by me. It doesn't matter now, though.

Are you tired of reading my nonsensical ramblings? I'm mostly spent - I just want this suffering to end. That's why I'm ok with self-hammering tommorrow if it's 3-3, because I'm not sure I can make it another day here.

I am spent mentally and emotionally. someone else should be doing most of the talking. I'm so thankful duckie and noraa are here - I hope they can do a better job than I have when I am gone.

I want to thank you Tweetie, you should've been angry with me for killing Hectic, for pushing you when I promised him I wouldn't, for raising a stupid fight about some eye doctor story. You've been more generous to me than I could've expected.

If you are indeed town and this is just another one of Pooky's absurdly stupid mistakes, I hope you find it in yourself to finish the last steps of the journey for me, hectic and all the others who are not here anymore.

Thanks for everything and if it's 3-3 tommorrow remember to let me be the one to self-hammer.

I am so, so tired. Not of you talking, but of this rollercoaster ride we're trapped on.

You're not going to get the opportunity to self hammer, Pooky. You're probably not even reaching X-1. You're going to have to be strong-- stronger than you've ever been before-- after you see my flip.

I don't mind about all that. You had to do it, in either case.

I truly believe that you're going to be the one who will be there to see this finished. 3-3 is a fantasy. You may or may not already have realized that. Either way.. I'll be seeing you (´-∀-`)

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ducky if lavender doesnt vote before the deadline you have to be online to vote. im counting on you <3

I will be around

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Fight Votecount 5.5

Noraa--------------------------

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Tanner

, Morning Tweet,

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(3) the worst, PookyTheMagicalBear, Noraa,

Lavender

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the worst--------------------------

Tanner

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Not Fighting:

(1)-

Lavender

,

With six alive it takes four to make a decision. The day will end in (expired on 2020-10-29 17:27:24)

..haha

I can say with complete confidence that scum is voting for me right now. Compelling argument, right?

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if worst is scum i am veri sad i couldnt get pooky to trust me

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i guess i have nothing to worry about then

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yes please ･ω･

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Morning keeps talking bout self hammering but never does it. wonder why....

........

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*pats bat*
don't worry, I'm a townie ducky

*flops ears*

thank you everyone

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i didn't actually think we'd get to 3-3

So this is it, then

Obviously Tanner/Lav would tell Pooky to self hammer, and worst/Noraa want me to do it

I want to put the burden of doing it on you first, but if you actually do it i dont think i could handle it

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I promise i have never killed, nor will I ever kill anybody

If I were scum I would leave Tanner alive because he might help me

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pooky if you self hammer it will crush my heart

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Pooky

I'm scared

(;´･ω･`)

pedit: I forgot about the no killsssssssssssss i have no capacity to kill at alllllllllllllllll it's not that im choosing not to god damnnnnnithgtjugnttg

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if you're town I'm really really sorry beyond words Tweetie.

(* >﹏<) (* >﹏<) (* >﹏<) (* >﹏<)

it's hard to breathe

i am scared

please tell me you can't self hammer

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Why wouldn't you switch with me? Why

You probably would have won the 1v1 on the next day because it was my idea

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*flops ears*

I'm going to miss you

Noooo (>﹏<)

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why is this like a big dramatic departure or something?
y'all make it seem like one of u is gonna disappear off the face of the earth for an eternity

you have no idea what we've been through and how long we've been doing this

i guess it's hard to understand

this is

big

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Why wouldn't you switch with me? Why

You probably would have won the 1v1 on the next day because it was my idea

I can't see Noraa or Ducky being scum.

I have to play to my win condition

I could see it

It sounds impossible but i could

i was going to do it which i suppose didn't help your suspicions of me but i dont know what else i was supposed to do

we can't even know 100% which one it is though, so it feels really hopeless

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(人◕﹏◕)

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If both of you are town, Im legitimately gonna think this is so stupid post game cuz u both literally just grabbed the rope yourselves and scum!worstie didnt even have to do shit.

Uh, you're the one who thinks I'm scum

I wasn't even a candidate before today

you think i asked for this?

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With six alive it takes four to make a decision. The day will end in 0 days, 2 hours, 27 minutes

you got about that long to convince me I'm wrong about one of ducky / noraa cuz I just can't see it right now

Is there time? Is there anyone out there who would chance switching to..... worst, I guess?

I don't even have a definitive way of knowing which one it is -- that's how towny both the slots are

My feelings towards Prism being town is stronger than Krazy albeit slightly

But I have no idea how to prove it

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

If one of those slots is scum this is all i have and i squandered it

I read through. If you disregard the players themselves, neither of them actually pushed scum all game. So there's that. If you ignore Krazy's emotions and other

things

, all he did was tunnel me, tunnel Tanner, and vote Nacho wrongfully kind of out of nowhere. He also thought Hectic was town but apparently thought tayl0r was so towny, he chose the Hectic wagon over hers on D2. You could interpret Puppy voting him on D2 as a gambit to try and give him enough towncred to win. Maybe there's a way to use Puppy's ISO to figure it out. i dont know

Scum Prism did so much reevaluating and probing (I cannot reiterate enough how unbelievable their actions towards Chara are to me if they're scum) that I am fine just leaving him. If he's scum he wanted it and he can have it

,.,.,.

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i know. but im town !!

raraahrahrarahrah

pookyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy pleeeaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee don't be town

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if we play with love in our hearts we can't lose

let us heal together through mutual love

if we play with love in our hearts we can't loselet us heal together through mutual love

all i feel is hopelessness

how likely is it that you drag this out as long as possible just to torture me as scum?

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i dont know if i can ever forgive scum this game

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for leaving you behind?

I would be quite angry with Puppy and Elements if they ditched me like that too.

for the psychological damage

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╥﹏╥

not to be pat greedy but im going through a lot rn

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Like
They aren't town AtEing this hard
Surely
Who the fuck else is scum

that's a bad read. the ate part is. i have yet to emote in a scum game (Except after I won them i freaked out)

"who the fuck else is scum" is valid though

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*sits in the corner patting the bat as though in a trance*

*flops Tweetie's ears*

I wub you no matter what

thank you

it's a lot easier to accept suspicion when it's accompanied by pets

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respectfully
scum have literally by necessity outplayed themselves
I have a much easier time believing that you are scum who is capable of AtE/selfmeta manipulation than Pooky is scum who has a very nuanced read on you / talked me off voting the prismslot / rather than meaningfully AtE'd wrote an epic poem about how traumatising this game is.

he tried to paranoia the Prism slot as the start of the day.. but it didnt work... so

and that's fair enough. im not that good at scum but someone here has to be

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Dats is already voting for you

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One of you isn't actually going to be heartbroken after I die, are you

that is okay

I will close my eyes and accept the pats and flops, anyway

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Can't you hear how fast my heart beats?....it is on the precipice of breaking. constantly.

mine is beating a thousand times per minute

it's not healthy

i would just die if i werent being comforted 24/7 by you guys

so thank you for the mercy

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I don't know what to do what to say anymore

im not ready for Pooky's goodbye post

im not ready for it

But it's not me -- what can i do?

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With six alive it takes four to make a decision. The day will end in (expired on 2020-10-29 17:27:24)

Someone make a decision I'm actually in agony

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Pooky you'll break me

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rocks back and forth

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NO

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IT'S NOT ME POOKY

IT'S NOT ME

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Damn it

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“Do you think even think it’s me here?!”

“No.”

“Then why are you voting for me?”

“... I don’t know.”

“That’s what I thought. But if you are indeed town, I hope you find it in yourself to finish the last steps of the journey for me, Hectic and all the others who are not here anymore.”

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Morning stared blankly at the jail cell’s ceiling. She counted the cracks between the boards while idly flipping a coin about in one hand.

“Giving up already?”

She sat up quickly, recognizing the familiar feline’s voice, “Catboi? What are you doing here?”

“Hi, Morning! Just thought I’d stop on by ( ˘ω˘ )ﾉ ⁎⁺˳✧༚” he gave a huge grin before continuing, “I can’t help but notice you seem down. Cheer up! It’s not over yet.”

“Oh. Well. I’m glad you came, Catboi,” Morning sat back down, “But it is over. The trial is scheduled for tomorrow. There’s no way anyone but me will be convicted.”

Morning paused for a moment, before clenching her eyes and exclaiming, “We killed Taylor, Hectic, Chara, Nacho, and Pooky! We were-- no, I was wrong every time. I deserve this. It’s what they’d want.”

Catboi shook his head, “You don’t know that, Morning! Why don’t you ask them yourself?”

Morning looked back up. Catboi was gone. In his place, two new faces appeared on the other side of the cell bars.

“Hectic! Taylor!”

Morning ran and pressed herself up against the bars.

“I couldn’t figure it out who the killer is! It’s not me. I’m sorry!”

Hectic stifled a laugh.

“We know it isn’t you, Morning. We’re omnipresent, you know?”

Morning dropped to her knees, “So, you already know what’s going on. I failed you all.”

A reassuring hand placed itself on Morning’s head, causing her to look up. It was Taylor’s.

“You didn’t fail anyone. You did what you thought was right. It’s okay.”

After a brief pause, Taylor pulled Morning up to her feet.

Morning thought for a moment, before saying, “Is it nice, being dead? I’ve been--”

“Nope!” Hectic interrupted Morning, wagging his finger, “No time to be thinking about that!”

Morning looked at him, confused. “No time? I’ve got a whole night left until.. well, you know.”

Taylor took Morning’s hands into her own, “You’re not giving up already, are you?”

“Well, I mean.. I..” Morning scratched the back of her head.

Taylor gave her a stern look, “Oh my god, you can’t give up yet, Morning! After everything?”

“B-but, the evidence. It isn’t there, Taylor..” Morning responded, irked, “Lavender, Tanner, Noraa.. they are all are certain it’s me by now. The killer-- they left nothing behind! It’s hopeless!”

“--that’s not true.”

Morning spun around. There was Chara, sitting on the bed. Nacho stood not far from it. Morning did a double-take behind her to see Hectic and Taylor were now gone.

“They left nothing behind? Do you really believe that?”

Chara’s deathly serious tone sent a chill down Morning’s spine.

“W-well.. I…”

Nacho let out a long sigh, “As long as you let yourself think that, you really are hopeless.”

Chara tossed a tattered notebook at Morning. She caught it narrowly, before inspecting it briefly. “KRAZY” was scribbled on the front in marker.

“Chara.. I can’t.. I already thought it was Pooky.. and then the incident happened, and..”

“Forget about that! Do not forget that he was the next one slated for the execution,”

Chara stood up and pointed at the book,

“Look at the rest of his play.”

Morning hesitantly looked first to Chara, then to Nacho, and then to the notebook. She flipped to the first page and began reading.

“This is Krazy’s early game. What about it?”

“He’s kept nearly the entire game in his scumpool. He could justify a vote on you with the early scumread, but he drops it later in favour of pushing Tanner and Lavender. He had Hectic as hard locktown early but continuously moves it down, so much so that he can justify voting Hectic later on in the day. Does it strike you as genuine?”

“Okay.. that is not such a big deal, though. Anyone can have wide, shifting reads.”

“Morning! You understand who the killer is, don’t you?”

Morning took a breath. “Yes, I do. But it doesn’t help me one bit.”

“Look at his reads here. You and Puppy are in the same, ambiguous tier marked ‘Review’. Krazy has consistently thought you to be scum, whereas he only interacts with Puppy on small occasion. How did Hectic end up so low? You need to start asking yourself these things, Morning.”

Morning sat down and covered her face with her hands, “Simply not being super towny isn’t enough to build a case. Multiple players became paranoid of Hectic, it was not just Krazy.”

“And besides.. Krazy loathes playing scum, does he not? How does someone who hates playing scum put up a performance like that?”

Chara rolled its eyes. Nacho pushed past it and approached Morning.

“First off, Krazy does not loathe playing scum. He ‘generally prefers playing town’. He only claims to hate scum later while arguing with Alisae. And second off, what makes you think his play does not align with someone who dislikes scum?”

Morning opened her mouth, before being interrupted by Nacho.

“Save it. Turn to page seven.”

Morning complied with his request, flipping through pages until she landed on a section of the game that she recognized well.

“This is the end of day two-- Taylor’s death,” she said, a solemn look appearing on her face, “What’s special about it?”

Nacho sighed again, “Morning, we can’t do everything for you. Don’t you remember something about scum choosing whether or not to take a coin flip?”

“Krazy took it!” Morning blurted out.

“He did. He was aware the day was ending because he knew the implications of you not quick hammering. And yet.. he placed a vote on Hectic by himself, made a lengthy argument justifying why, and ghosted from the thread during the last critical moment. Why?”

Morning allowed herself to get excited for a moment, before suddenly relaxing and sitting back.

“That’s not terrible evidence, I will give you that. But.. the Tanner interactions. How can he lash out at Tanner like that if he does not feel justified? It was so hard for me to believe that I locked him as town on the spot.

“Morning..”

Chara hopped off the bed and sat down criss-cross in front of her.

“I know that emotion is a weakness of yours. Let’s look at it again together, shall we?”

Chara took the notebook from Morning and flipped through.

“Look at here and here,” Chara pointed to various places on the page, “Unfortunate as it happened, Krazy took Tanner to be insulting him as a player.”

“Take a look at this one. This makes it clear to me that Krazy’s view of Tanner was as follows: ‘Tanner didn’t actually review the game. He isn’t actually trying to read me. He’s said I’m scum, thought it good enough for him, and is now devoting his time to messing with me. My play is unimportant. Tanner just wants to make me angry.”

Morning thought about this for a moment.

“I suppose that if Krazy believed that, it would be frustrating regardless of alignment.”

Chara nodded. “Keep looking. He thought Tanner’s reasoning was terrible. Again, this would be a frustrating situation for any player. Not just town ones.”

Morning let out a long exhale, “I understand. Thank you.”

Chara smiled and got up. Morning scanned through the rest of the pages to learn as much as she possibly could.

“Redtea actually did follow their scum meta to an extent by not placing any suspicion on other players. The post count is higher.. but that’s it!”

“Krazy was being cleared based off of the no-kills-- he is a very good mechanical player and dislikes playing scum, so why would he make the game harder for himself? But that’s not true-- scum made the correct mechanical decision, it turns out. He really knew what he was doing all along.”

“Damn it! All Krazy had to do was point out that him clearing Tanner was suicide, show why the game state was perfectly set up for Pooky, and then I was in his pocket. I was practically his minion. The reason Krazy cleared Tanner was so he could have access to night killing Tanner! If he didn’t, he’d have to deal with Tanner voting him for both days! I’ve realized it too late.”

“Alisae made Krazy angry. Alisae was pushing him for hidden, possibly nonexistent reasoning. Taunting him too! Of course, Krazy reacted the way he did-- he was taking it as Alisae attacking him, not his play.”

“Puppy’s vote on Krazy during day two did nothing to change the state of the wagon. He didn’t even really have a reason to make that vote.”

Morning took a break from her rambling to look up.

“Chara! Nacho! Thank you! I--”

They were both gone. Morning sat in silence for a while, before getting up to return to bed. She clutched the notebook tightly to her chest, lost in thought for a long time..

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“What, not even a ‘Hello’?”

Morning snapped out of her trance. A certain bear she had come to know all too well over the past couple of months stood beside her.

“Pooky!”

She jumped out of bed and hugged onto Pooky tightly.

“I’m sorry. I’m so sorry,” tears welled up in her eyes.

“You know I love you, Tweetie,” Pooky reassured her, “there’s nothing to be sorry for.”

He placed a paw on her head to pat her.

“I really thought it was you.. and then it was too late. And.. and...”

“I know, Tweetie. I know,” Pooky flopped one of Morning’s ears, before letting go of her.

“You’ve got to finish this, now. For all of us. I love you no matter what happens.”

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What a game this has been

HURT: worstie

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I'm here to talk about anything you want if you like

I figured it was over today because of everything. but in the middle of the night, I decided to give it a shot anyway. Just so I can say I tried as hard as I could. Maybe a little late though.

if I had reread D1 and paid more attention to what Hectic said, maybe we could have caught Puppy. Maybe.

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So many people tried so hard to win this game. Every single dead townie was doing awesome. Especially Hectic who LITERALLY had the entire team. Prism LITERALLY played their heart out. All I did was votepark Krazy and then get my mind changed over and over and over and not defend Hectic hard enough when he needed help

The last critical chance I had to save the game was somehow convincing Pooky to trust me yesterday. Maybe if I had been more careful with my words, or done more to help in the D2/D3 area -- but I just wasn't motivated back then and I wasn't motivated while talking with Pooky

I wish you all had been there for the journey because I've never been as emotional over a mafia game than this one right now

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You would have been eliminated ending the game had Pooky found it within his heart to trust me. It wasn't meant to be though

If Lav and Noraa are on the fence tomorrow I can breakdown all my reasoning for why Krazy doesn't really have any reason to be town outside of emotional stuff and his exit from the game. Had that not happened, well, we would have gone Krazy first and already won

If I were scum, I am so far gone that I would have opted to leave Tanner alive, as he was pretty much the only one who believed in me. And that is just a fact. There is no universe where scum Morning thinks THIS Xylo is easier than trying to paranoia Tanner, who was, again, the only person in the game that thought I was town.

I want this phase to last as long as you both aren't sure of your votes. Please don't just accept good enough or just take a guess. As long as you aren't sure, let me keep talking. Even if you don't end up trusting me, i feel very guilty for the game getting to this state and i want to right it in some small way by trying as hard as I possibly can.

Of course, if you ever feel like nothing will sway you anymore, dont let me stop you.

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Lav, sorry you're in this position but you passed your opportunity to reevaluate MT yesterday. Do whatever you need to get this right, but please ask yourself why you're still here. ask yourself why you're confirmed. you are here because scum want you to be here, and if you can keep that in mind I think you'll find this a lot easier.

I'd love to hear elaboration on why its particularly advantageous to me to clear Lavender. I'd have done Alisae and Tanner, the least elimable slots in the game. Lav, you could at least argue was directed to no-kill and vote Tayl0r in the scum chat.

I had a whole theory that Puppy told her to vote Tayl0r, but that was before he knew the deadline would get so tight. But Lav looked at the old message and followed his advice despite it being outdated. Lav was still plenty elimable compared to the likes of Prism/Noraa!

And what exactly points to me wanting Lav to be here? The main side she took this game was when she sided with Pooky to eliminate Hectic! What is it that you're seeing that suggests scum!Morning wants Lav to decide? Or.. are you just making things up?

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I'd love to hear elaboration on why its particularly advantageous to me to clear Lavender. I'd have done Alisae and Tanner, the least elimable slots in the game. Lav, you could at least argue was directed to no-kill and vote Tayl0r in the scum chat.

The only part of the game I'm acutely aware of is y'day/the fact tanner was shot last night after saying he was anxious about locktowning you. I'm not gonna read far enough back. I just need Lav to be self-aware.

This post isn't useful. You're only trying to undermine my point by making vague allusions to the parts of the game I just was not here for.

What, and this is useful?

Lav, sorry you're in this position but you passed your opportunity to reevaluate MT yesterday. Do whatever you need to get this right, but please ask yourself why you're still here. ask yourself why you're confirmed. you are here because scum want you to be here, and if you can keep that in mind I think you'll find this a lot easier.

You're vaguely alluding that Lav being here somehow implicates me, which it doesn't so :/

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If Lav and Noraa are on the fence tomorrow I can breakdown all my reasoning for why Krazy doesn't really have any reason to be town outside of emotional stuff and his exit from the game.

If you've been so confident on Krazy for such a long time why did you drop it so hard yesterday? This is a mindset which needs multiple eliminations, not a mindset of seeking truth about alignments.

I wasn't. I was confident on Pooky. I gave a great town case for you yesterday. If you call that a mindset for trying to set up a line of miseliminations, you're crazy. Krazy even pointed it out himself -- I was suiciding if Pooky is town

Worst is just saying stuff to get himself over the finish line, I'm the only one here who has actually experienced the game >_<

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ok lav literally proudly refused to reevaluate her read on you yesterday so it literally implicates you. other than that? for the most part i'm just asking her to proceed with caution because scum literally decided who was in this final phase.

Worst is just saying stuff to get himself over the finish line, I'm the only one here who has actually experienced the game >_<

what, i'm a late replace-in ergo i'm just scum trying to get across the line?
this is the most absurdly false stance i've seen in a long time.

Both of your points so far don't mean anything if you know greater context for them

-Scum!Morning doesn't clear Lav and bring her to Xylo. That makes no sense given Lav's previous stances
-At no point was I confident on scum!Krazy. I townread him so hard it's not even funny. Your point that I've been playing to set up a line of miselims is false

i don't blame you for not going through and reading all of this game, I probably wouldn't in your shoes. but your claims don't hold up if you know the context

[Morning Tweet]

Whichever of you is town is doing a bad job and I'll explain why I think this post game.

I don't know what to tell you, Noraa

I feel very guilty for not being around much in the D2 area of the game. I had very little motivation

But right here right now, i'm trying as hard as I can. Even when it's probably already over. I'm sorry that you think I'm doing a bad job, but at the very least, don't put the blame on me for a lack of trying

[Morning Tweet]

I’m not a replacement, just a small poster QwQ
I felt like MT could maybe be it...
But Hectic townread then fully

It’s a bit
A bit
Head ache inducing

If I have to be honest
I want to try and believe Pooky
And lynch Tweetie ( ･᷄ὢ･᷅ )
But wikeiwksskwkow I don’t know

Hectic's read isn't the only piece of evidence for me being town ;-;

On day one, I wouldn't have exited the Elements wagon in favour of starting the tayl0r one. Elements-beeboy was clearly dying d1/d2, switching off was just losing town credit for no reason.
On day one, I would never be confident Elements-beeboy was flipping scum. I have never exhibited confidence like that before ever, so scum me wouldn't think to do it
On day two/three, I really don't think I'd have tried to keep Hectic in my elim pool for so long. Hectic townreading me is solid. If I were scum, I'd know he never takes that back. I want him around. But I didn't protect him. I would have told Puppy, who would be my scumpartner in that case, to lay off of him D1/D2 as well. I would have needed Hectic
On day three/four, protecting Krazy as hard as I did makes NO sense. I did so much suspecting of him and redtea earlier. There was no reason to flip my read on him for something as small as "emotional reaction". But I did. WHY would I do that as scum? That's part of why I'm in such a hard place right now. It made me sure it had to be Pooky.
On day five, why the hell would I clear Lavender? I had an intricate theory it could be you still. You also had already sided with Pooky earlier in the game. I would have cleared Noraa/Prism because they were uneliminatable. And that also gives me the ability to kill them, which at the time I would have thought to clear and nightkill somebody. That would have likely been Prism.
Right now, I would never have killed Tanner. That is not a question. Scum me and town me are both really desperate. Tanner believed in me yesterday, the only person really to do so. I would have tried to paranoia Tanner into helping me. I never make that night kill ever. I gain absolutely nothing.

*huff* *huff*

Look at that! Not a single point about self meta!

...anyway, if you've already made up your mind, again, don't let me stop you. This is partly for me

[Morning Tweet]

ok lav literally proudly refused to reevaluate her read on you yesterday so it literally implicates you. other than that? for the most part i'm just asking her to proceed with caution because scum literally decided who was in this final phase.

Sounds like a good reason to kill Lavender and then try to sell it to Tanner that scum!you is keeping him alive for the memes and the nightkill is meant to implicate me

Like, that is way easier than this situation is for me. I swear to god that is what I would have done because I probably would just give up in this Xylo as scum. I would not have the conviction to face three people who scumread me and try to sell them on someone who I townread for most of the game.

[Morning Tweet]

-Scum!Morning doesn't clear Lav and bring her to Xylo. That makes no sense given Lav's previous stances

again i have no idea what this is talking about except for super vague "woooow i could never be scum hereeee" which AGAIN is what every single person in the f4 has already done exhaustively. i am talking about what i have seen. last phase, lav dunked on pooky when the momentum was finally turning towards outing you as scum. tanner was starting to reconsider his townread on you. the decision to leave lav alive into f4 explicitly makes sense from scum!MT.

-At no point was I confident on scum!Krazy. I townread him so hard it's not even funny. Your point that I've been playing to set up a line of miselims is false

so you put absolutely no effort into solving me in the last phase and just townbinned me while pooky got miselim'd while spewing town... and now you're super confident that i must be the last scum without glancing twice at noraa... you are literally playing a game which you feel results in pooky=>tw being miselim'd. this response is the kind of thing which is engineered to look sincere and innocent but is bluntly disingenuous regardless of your alignment. the fact you aren't even stopping to think that town!MT also needed to nuke {tw,pooky} the moment she locktowned noraa is a perspective slip - you want to be cleared, but you have no grasp on what town!MT would have done in the last two phases.

i don't blame you for not going through and reading all of this game, I probably wouldn't in your shoes. but your claims don't hold up if you know the context

this is blatant hypocrisy. i'm not going to read the game, and it's whatever that you're trying to be ms. nice bat for saying that's ok. but you can't turn around and discredit my points because i haven't read the game in the same breath.

Exactly. You have no idea about what everybody's previous stances were so trying to present it as "Lav, think about why you are here." makes no sense.

I need help understanding your second line, I'm not sure what you mean

I can. It reads that you're saying things to get me killed. Town!worst actually like, needs to believe what he's saying. When you're saying stuff like "Think about why you're here Lav" and "If you've been so confident I'm scum, why'd you drop it yesterday?", it's like ??? neither of those things mean anything.

[Morning Tweet]

Look at that! Not a single point about self meta!

this is literally all "i would nEeEeEver do this as scum" self meta................... you got nothin

Not even close? Self-meta is talking about how I play scum, usually with other games to prove it.

i LITERALLY don't exit the Elements wagon. That's not self meta. That's just correct. Switching off to tayl0r and saying "eeEeE some Elements posts give me pause" is not something I would have done.
i DONT say "Elements is a scum flip" as scum.
i DONT keep Hectic in my elim pool and i DO defend him because i KNOW he will be on my side forever
i DONT reverse my hard scumread on Krazy to a hard townread for tiny reasoning. WHY would i do that
i literally DONT clear Lavender instead of Prism/Noraa. Are you kidding me?
and i DONT kill Tanner. That alone should be so obvious and it's frustrating.

NONE of that is self meta. That is just laying out literally what I wouldnt have done as scum this game. I'm talking about myself but there is no meta there.

[Morning Tweet]

ok lav literally proudly refused to reevaluate her read on you yesterday so it literally implicates you. other than that? for the most part i'm just asking her to proceed with caution because scum literally decided who was in this final phase.

Sounds like a good reason to kill Lavender and then try to sell it to Tanner that scum!you is keeping him alive for the memes and the nightkill is meant to implicate me

this is nka wifom nonsense and i'm not buying into it. the fact you've already considered this makes me think this defence is just pre-meditated.

Like, that is way easier than this situation is for me. I swear to god that is what I would have done because I probably would just give up in this Xylo as scum. I would not have the conviction to face three people who scumread me and try to sell them on someone who I townread for most of the game.

respectfully, this is eerily close to the argument which got krazy in trouble. nobody would have given up in this xylo. this angery nonsense is what us sick masochists are all here for. please stop trying to undermine the integrity of the game to look townier - your self-towncase is a house of cards and it's not hard to see.

Apologies-- but to clarify, that isn't some kind of special promise from me that's just my vocabulary.

[Morning Tweet]

God damn it

I didn't mean it like that

i need to chill out

I'm sorry about that mate

[Morning Tweet]

Exactly. You have no idea about what everybody's previous stances were so trying to present it as "Lav, think about why you are here." makes no sense.

every single town ever ever ever should ask themselves why they're alive in xylo. always. every single time. you're not even accusing me of doing something scum indicative. you're trying to undermine me on a theory level when i'm objectively right.

I need help understanding your second line, I'm not sure what you mean

let's roleplay a world where you're town, and locktown noraa's slot.
you need to kill tw and pooky. that's your gameplan. full stop.
the fact you're DENYING that you have been trying to kill {pooky,tw} is blatantly disingenuous if you're town.
and the fact you don't seem to be aware of that means you are scum who is more interested in looking good than speaking the truth.

I can. It reads that you're saying things to get me killed. Town!worst actually like, needs to believe what he's saying. When you're saying stuff like "Think about why you're here Lav" and "If you've been so confident I'm scum, why'd you drop it yesterday?", it's like ??? neither of those things mean anything.

they both mean very different things.
- lav needs to consider why she's here. that's her job as town in xylo. that's level 1 mafia theory, not my opinion.
- coincidentally!! i have added knowledge that you're scum and can plainly see that it's in your interest to leave lav alive.

- i don't think your thoughts are real, so yes i'm going to probe.
- stop quoting something from earlier in the conversation, it reduces the integrity of what we're arguing about.

It read more like "OoOoO Lav think about why you're here" and trying to hint at something more than as actual advice to me. My apologies if that's what you meant

I still don't see the inconsistency. You realize I tried to get you killed yesterday, right?

I suppose where I disagree is that it really isn't in my interest to keep Lav alive ahead of Tanner, at all. I don't see it that way at all.

[Morning Tweet]

it's ok, i'm a bit exasperated as well.
we're the final victim and the villain - they're tiring parts to play.

yeah

Or we're both the victims and we're attacking each other, which would really sting

I feel sufficiently hopeless so I'm going to go ahead and reveal that I'm going all-in on you because I figured I lose instantly if I enter not acting like I know which one of you it is. And you were already going to attack me off the bat so I didn't really have a choice.

I do really think it's you over Noraa. But I'm not going to say it's impossible. Just not relevant anymore, i guess.

i am sorry if i'm being rude or anything in my responses I'm not slowing down at all while writing them and i don't mean for them to come off that way

[Morning Tweet]

yup I'm definitely stopping until they come back and say what they think first

you're a cool duck, worst (*ﾉωﾉ) even if you're the villain

[Morning Tweet]

do i reply do i reply

[Morning Tweet]

I still don't see the inconsistency. You realize I tried to get you killed yesterday, right?

yes
literally yes
this is exactly my point
you want and wanted my blood but when pushed you're like "wow i really thought pooky was scum and you were town"
that's disingenuous regardless of your alignment. but it sounds like a nice towny thing to say at surface level.
you are more interested in saying surface nice towny things than explaining your actual sincere thoughts about this game because you are scum.

I had multiple walls calling you town. Both D2 when Krazy originally towntold in my mind, and again when I wanted us to eliminate Pooky before Krazy. That's what I mean.

My point is that it makes no sense for me to do that. No one else changed their Krazy read when he snapped at Tanner but me. Could have gotten him killed, but I thought he was town for it. And again yesterday, I went all-in on Pooky over Krazy at the start of the day. Only in the dying moments of yesterday did I realize I fucked up

I don't know where you're getting scum in all of that. I know I'm just missing your point and i apologize for that

[Morning Tweet]

you're not being rude. you're obligated to make me look bad, and you cannot use much truth while doing that because i'm just town here. it's frustrating to be accused of lying when i'm just trying my best. but it's part of the fun.

i wish your elim just got through yesterday T_T

I'm obligated to make you look bad -- yes.

I wish my elim had gone through yesterday -- also yes. That would have been so much nicer.

[Morning Tweet]

yup I'm definitely stopping until they come back and say what they think first

depends if you have a sincere thought to respond to or if you need to check how likely town are to vote wrong first. ;)

During the night I felt like they had, mm, maybe a 90% chance of voting for me

I think from Lav's posting so far, that was about right for her. Noraa surprised me by saying she wasn't sure. gave me a lot of motivation to keep trying. I feel bad that she thinks I'm doing a shit job, but oh well

[Morning Tweet]

i'm gonna be level
pooky's push on you was clearly coming from town
i think you negligently ignoring his towntells just long enough for him to die, while not checking your read on me but ensuring that i'd be alive for f4 so that you could go for my elim, is a clear scum agenda.

pedit: we could be in endgame at the beach with piña coladas by now

I felt like I didn't really have a choice. Krazy "towncleared" himself and Prism was Prism

At least I realized it at the end. But it was too late, he said there was no way I could convince him it wasn't me

I really did think Krazy had to be town. Sucks

[Morning Tweet]

I think I did do a shit job. Earlier in the game I had everything I needed, the evidence for Puppy being scum was right there and I ignored it

And now I have jack all to work with but am actually trying.

[Morning Tweet]

I felt like I didn't really have a choice. Krazy "towncleared" himself and Prism was Prism

this is exactly why i spent so much time yday yelling about trust tells being shitty reasons to clear someone. this boils down to a lazy excuse to townbin krazzy

just until

it's too late and you can acknowledge that trust tells should not actually be treated as alignment indicative and try to miselim me anyway.

It's not just that. I cleared him off of his spectacular reaction to Tanner suspecting him, which was bad of me. I cleared him off of Puppy voting him, which shouldn't have meant anything. I cleared him off of saying he hated playing scum which was bad.

[Morning Tweet]

i admire the way you're trying this phase - i sincerely think you're pretty much outed, and swinging a final miselim is really difficult off the back of that.

If you're town, I wouldn't push anyone other than me either really so, fair enough

I agree swinging an elimination here is borderline impossible and I might not even be on target. I don't know why I'm trying so hard

Your admiration is definitely misplaced though lol

[Morning Tweet]

Two people in a row who are absolutely convinced it's me

Two swing voters, both who prefer me

Two possible suspects, both of which are the hardest townread slots in the back half of the game

And I can't even be certain of which one it is

It is hard to conceive a more difficult Xylo than this. I wrote the little fanfiction because honestly I was taken aback at how crazy this game is. It's been an incredible ride

I feel like every townie besides me probably deserved to win though. Hectic had 2 or 3 scum. Seriously. Everyone was playing really hard. Catboi, Prism(assuming he's town), Pooky, Chara, Taylor, n everybody else was

I guess the majority was wrong on Puppy and obviously we were wrong on Krazy/Prism. So it's not like scum doesn't deserve it too. Probably deserves it more ultimately. I had non-BS reasons to like Krazy. His tone wasn't bad. There were some parts of his reaction to my tunnel that seemed good. I think clearing Tanner was an insanely ballsy move.

[Morning Tweet]

Pooky would want me dead right now if he were alive yes

That does not make him right, but yeah

If that's what you're basing your decision off of, you are right to eliminate me

I don't really know what to say at this point. I've given my piece on why Krazy doesn't have to be town. I guess the only thing we have to go off of is that Krazy/Prism never actually suspected scum this game. Prism's WIM was insane and Krazy was Krazy. And i am just............. here

I want to be falsely confident that it is Krazy/worst but I can't really because it could be Prism/Noraa too for all I know

I tried as hard as I could to change today even though I know it's pretty much impossible. so yeah thats all i got

[Morning Tweet]

Whichever of you is town is doing a bad job and I'll explain why I think this post game.

this is also pretty funny if Noraa is scum

[Morning Tweet]

so Lav if you've made your decision dont hesitate cause im out of things to add to try n stop you if that's your choice. If you want to be more certain of your decision, check my first few posts of today they're probably the best i got

worst: out of curiosity in the event you're town, what surprises you more -- me being town, or Noraa being scum?

[Morning Tweet]

like.... neither.......... because neither are true........................
hypothetically speaking if we are both town and lose i'll be more shocked by Noraa being scum than you being town

(・ω<)

alright

if you're town that is really this sure, i wanna see some genuine shock and betrayal after the flip

ill be shocked too though

[Morning Tweet]

lol i respect the commitment to the bit

..unless?

[Morning Tweet]

HURT: Noraa

At least scum!worstie had to try a little. ill have my vote on Norra why not

u_u;
I'm ready
I've been ready
deliver us from this folly

me too me too

[Morning Tweet]

I'm really not

I think based off Krazy vs. Prism, Krazy is a better guess

But you haven't exactly done anything for the slot and neither did Alisae

i started with worstie because i knew he'd vote for me immediately, but now that I'm just placing my vanity vote, I'll put it on you

At least worstie and I got to argue n shit and it felt halfway genuine

we haven't talked, Noraa, and now you're accusing me of scumclaiming (*ﾉωﾉ)

Are you waiting to vote for some reason or another?

[Morning Tweet]

how'd we get here, Lav + other person with green role?

Okay, for Prism, I suppose that they never actually suspected scum once this game. And furthermore, not sparing Prism/Alisae only makes sense if scum IS Prism/Alisae. Additionally, sparing Tanner is a pretty shitty idea for Krazy and it is hard to believe he chose to do that

Noraa isn't really playing the game which is kind of odd I guess

Don't know what possessed Prism to play so hard though, nor why they'd be so aggressive towards Chara

Probably should be voting Worstie just for that but like ┐(>ω<)┌

[Morning Tweet]

HURT: Isis

You thought I was at E-1?

[Morning Tweet]

Hold off on voting me for a sec -- why'd you think I was at x-1?

I think I already know why though

[Morning Tweet]

Oh i missed Lav's vote, my bad

HURT: worstie

Knowing you're town is almost like a final slap in the face at the end.

It's nice to know who I should be looking straight in the eyes as I'm dying, though

[Morning Tweet]

Why wouldn't you just sheep her? Granted she is wrong, but still. what's the hold up for you?

you felt way more confident yesterday, why are you not really sure anymore?

Duckkyyyyyyy looks like you aren't comically sure it's me as a townie after all. bad duck

[Morning Tweet]

bad duck

*bonk*

[Morning Tweet]

Why wouldn't you just sheep her?

dude TSTBS doesnt work.

I wasn't scum

Also, that's reverse psychology not TSTBS. Too scummy is acting scummy on purpose

[Morning Tweet]

Noraa -- you realize it takes 5 seconds to check whether or not Lav had already voted?

[Morning Tweet]

I was hoping you legitimately hadn't checked, so i went along with it

HURT: Isis

You thought I was at E-1?

Obviously i knew lol

[Morning Tweet]

That's a somewhat embarrassing method of evaluating me if you're srsly town.

The whole game is there for you to check, worst and I's arguments, everything... and you try a fake hammer that I only went along with on the hopes you weren't paying attention and I could figure you out from it

[Morning Tweet]

That's a somewhat embarrassing method of evaluating me if you're srsly town.

The whole game is there for you to check, worst and I's arguments, everything... and you try a fake hammer that I only went along with on the hopes you weren't paying attention and I could figure you out from it

Didnt read it all. Ur trying to say you were reaction testing me? Lmao. From what I can tell, I am universal TRed. Your concern rn should be presenting a case on worstie not "oh Noraa needs some more sorting lets go do that"

Did you miss the 2000+ word story/case on worst?

[Morning Tweet]

Legit. Bro. There are like 4 people. You are trying to tell me that you LEGIT thought that was the hammer?

Noraa if you're town and actually thought I fell for that you deserve to lose

[Morning Tweet]

No I didnt think you fell for it. I just think that town!you would just be like "ok yeah Noraa im at E-2 now stfu and go sit in a corner"
whereas scum!you would be like "woe is me. im hammered and im town"

As you can see here i almost did that

HURT: Isis

You thought I was at E-1?

but you kept acting dumb

Are you not? Worstie and lav are both on you last I remember

so i played along

Oh i missed Lav's vote, my bad

HURT: worstie

Knowing you're town is almost like a final slap in the face at the end.

It's nice to know who I should be looking straight in the eyes as I'm dying, though

I am baffled you see it any other way

[Morning Tweet]

You failing to realize I don't even know which one of you it is will cost you the game, then.

[Morning Tweet]

[Morning Tweet]

i wouldn't hold your breath

[Morning Tweet]

Man i am pissed if going along with your terrible fake-hammer was the deciding factor in this game. I mean it wasn't, but still. Wow

[Morning Tweet]

I am sorry for snapping at you though

[Morning Tweet]

hi worsty

[Morning Tweet]

yes please

[Morning Tweet]

(・ω<) ♡

wooooooooo !!!!

[Morning Tweet]

Finally I can rest

I am sorry Hectic

[Morning Tweet]

and sorry all of the dead townies

I am just so tired

[Morning Tweet]

I reacted that way to Noraa as half joke half desperately hoping I could get a clue to her alignment

Probably a bad move in hindsight

[Morning Tweet]

I promise I gave everything I had there but that was really hopeless. it was so hard because I had to fake confidence too

[Morning Tweet]

Noraa if that influenced your decision I am embarrassed but also a bit embarrassed you'd think I'd fall for that

[Morning Tweet]

No Noraa. I had to fake confidence because you and Alisae and the Tanner clear meant Prism *might've* been scum

If you're town, you're losing with me :c

[Morning Tweet]

ONE MORE PAT DUCKY !!

[Morning Tweet]

I dont know
what happened
I can't compute anything my head hurts

i am so sorry Lav

[Morning Tweet]

*FRANTIC BAT PATS*

it means a lot!!!!

[Morning Tweet]

Whichever one of you it is, drop the act already. For Lavenders sake!!

[Morning Tweet]

Nicely done, worsty! ily2 btw

[Morning Tweet]

i am so glad dead townies were okay with the story i wrote. i wasn't sure if theyd be okay with it because i didnt know if theyd want me to portray them without their control

but ultimately i ended up posting it because i felt like it might help our chances even slightly

I really screwed up voting Noraa although i didnt actually think she was still considering voting worst so i wanted to find out if it really was worst or not by seeing what she'd do in response to the vote

overall i am just so glad its over

[Morning Tweet]

Noraa if I were scum, I'd never have voted you. I'd have kept pretending to be completely convinced it was worst. That would probably be my best plan overall

i voted you because i was being stupid and I had started to kind of give up after Lav said she'd vote me. It's alright now, though

Awesome edit Hectic but dangigoitgitgit

and awesome flavour Isis! Such a cool game