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[Hopkirk]

@Noraa: Does that mean you buy the Hectic-alt case too now, or that you think I'm just ridiculously paranoid?

(bearing in mind I've admitted I'm the kind of person who'd try and check other mafia forums to try and work out if she's Hectic which doesn't look good if I'm arguing not to be really paranoid)

What are your reads atm Noraa?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Echoing hopkirk town, still not sure on starlight, tho. I've seen newbtells, but still see genuinely overwhelmed newbscum as a possibility.

[Noraa]

Does that mean you buy the Hectic-alt case too now, or that you think I'm just ridiculously paranoid?

you've successfully made me ridiculously paranoid. I don't know but I'm paranoid now.

[Noraa]

What are your reads atm Noraa?

I don't like Glitch or Keita. I'm not gonna even try to engage Glitch rn cuz frankly, its just frustrating and I have no interest spending my time talking to a wall.
Keita hasn't done anything to even slightly change my mind.
Half this game is dead. I literally feel like I'm in the dead thread with all the silence and stalling. I hands down just want this day to be over.

[Hopkirk]

How are people feeling about Flubber? He pinged me a couple of times.

[Hopkirk]

Why does it feel like Trendall and Noraa are both scum?
If Trendall flips scum I would be inclined to vote Noraa next.

Noraa, if you had to choose which of Glitch v Trendall is the scum and why?

I had small townpings from this. It feels like a weird approach for what would be a verynew hence likely weak (especially considering Keita's activity vs those they're attacking) scum to take. I feel like them going on you is more likely to come from town based on their presence to date. Weak read and the rest of the iso barely pings me either way though.

[Hopkirk]

I have minor pairing pings from Jonny/Flubber and Flubber/Bob-who-Jonny-Replaced interactions.

[Glitch]

I don't like Glitch or Keita. I'm not gonna even try to engage Glitch rn cuz frankly, its just frustrating and I have no interest spending my time talking to a wall.

You keep repeating the same thing about me and it's really irritating because you're trying to make look bad with a trash case, and yet it is swaying people's read on me based on inaccurate information (derp being a recent example). You're painting me as this arrogant, hard headed crank, like I think I'm the only one who could be right, and that I refuse to consider other people's perspectives. It's a misrep of how I have played considering that my 1v1 with Trendall ended with me conceding the fact that he made a good point about playstyls. I recognized that I was not fully accurate and had something to learn from Trendall, and yet here we are a week later and you're still going on about how "Glitch just has to be right all the time and if you step out of line then he will SR you." It's honestly bullshit and it pisses me off.

[PlusJOYED]

What specifically seemed townie about my posting? I need to watch out for buddying.

I was a spot that could have been pushed but you defended me. I lean towards people who defend me being town.

Also your mindset I agree with

[Noraa]

Well I'm sorry but that is entirely how I am seeing this game right now. I just feel like my opinions will be squashed the moment I engage you so I have found zero point in doing so.

[Hopkirk]

If I had to call it now, and I'm glad I don't, (Flubber/Nopoint/Jonny) doesn't seem like the worst solve. Want to focus my thoughts on those three slots and try and get/deepen some existing townreads as priorities at the minute. I townread you btw Noraa, don't know if i mentioned that.

[PlusJOYED]

A summary of the evidence @Noraa. It's late here so I might have missed a piece or two.

-Hectic frequently plays with gimmicks under his alts. Including one where he played pretending to be a new player (viewtopic.php?f=2&t=83358). I'm fairly sure he mentioned (months ago) one where he pretended to be new and asked a lot of stuff about why no lethal d1 and what omgus means etc, but not sure where.

-Hectic always sets his 'last online' status to off. I'd be surprised if before playing any games, Staarling worked out how to turn this off and turned it off. I don't think they started with an avatar either right?

-Hectic is in no other games under his main right now so is almost 100% playing under an alt somewhere at the moment.

-At least two-three of Hectic's games (under his name, so you'd expect his next ones to be with an alt) right before Staarling signed up for the game.

-Staarling has hit every mark that you'd expect a Hectic parody of a new player to hit including: 'Let's not lethal d1', questions about the edit button and 'what does pregame mean' feeling a bit as though they knew/were asking a lot of stuff to try and look new. Plus a lot of their reasons for suspicions/town reads on people seeming obvnewb simplistic.

-I've never seen someone ask if posts can be edited iirc, so the above pings me a lot as a question I thing fakenew Hectic is a lot more likely to ask than a real new player.

-A lot of the posting pings me as thinking that I could absolutely see Hectic writing it (I know Hectic fairly well irl btw, we've played hundred of hours of mafia together for one).

-Even starting their first post with 'Hi' pings Hectic because we joke about the 'newbie entrance tell' of new scum being more likely to use a h based greeting a lot. Fake/exaggerated new town Hectic would prob use that

-The homeforum thing makes me suspicious about the origin.

I like the effort

[Hopkirk]

I don't like Glitch or Keita. I'm not gonna even try to engage Glitch rn cuz frankly, its just frustrating and I have no interest spending my time talking to a wall.

You keep repeating the same thing about me and it's really irritating because you're trying to make look bad with a trash case, and yet it is swaying people's read on me based on inaccurate information (derp being a recent example). You're painting me as this arrogant, hard headed crank, like I think I'm the only one who could be right, and that I refuse to consider other people's perspectives. It's a misrep of how I have played considering that my 1v1 with Trendall ended with me conceding the fact that he made a good point about playstyls. I recognized that I was not fully accurate and had something to learn from Trendall, and yet here we are a week later and you're still going on about how "Glitch just has to be right all the time and if you step out of line then he will SR you." It's honestly bullshit and it pisses me off.

Well I'm sorry but that is entirely how I am seeing this game right now. I just feel like my opinions will be squashed the moment I engage you so I have found zero point in doing so.

So what if Noraa/Glitch/Trendall are all town? I can see that being the case tbh. Townreads on Noraa/Trendall atm. Not 100% on glitch, more towards the town end of the spectrum atm though, and want more thoughts there.

[Noraa]

I townread you btw Noraa, don't know if i mentioned that.

I don't think you have but also more importantly, why?

[PlusJOYED]

How are people feeling about Flubber? He pinged me a couple of times.

am i getting sheeped right now

[Hopkirk]

I townread you btw Noraa, don't know if i mentioned that.

I don't think you have but also more importantly, why?

Someone said the had a meta read on you for tunneling a lot more as town = townpoints regardless of their alignment
You came off as good in the Glitch/Tren tangential stuff
Some of the pushing on you feels really eh

[Hopkirk]

How are people feeling about Flubber? He pinged me a couple of times.

am i getting sheeped right now

Woah, I could vote Flubber now then your vote would be sheeping me instead of vice versa.
Flubber pinged me a few times as really under the radary in the kind of null leaning whatever place a lot of scum seem to lurk.

[Hopkirk]

I'll probably talk about NP tomorrow after work and do a reread there more properly.

[Hopkirk]

VOTE: Flubber I kind of want to do this before I go to bed tbh

[JohnnyFarrar]

Honestly would be more willing to sheep a nopo vote than Flubber, not really sure what you're seeing there.

Still more happy with plus. His fake engagement is real smelly

[Hiraki]

FYI deadline is in 2 days.

okay sir plusjoyed u better say something cool and nice about derp and maybe a little about the game as well as soon as possible if u dont want me to park my beautiful vote on u

I would be okay with this too. Speed wagon on Plusjoyed that says something else other than noraa is needed at the moment.

-Hectic frequently plays with gimmicks under his alts. Including one where he played pretending to be a new player (viewtopic.php?f=2&t=83358). I'm fairly sure he mentioned (months ago) one where he pretended to be new and asked a lot of stuff about why no lethal d1 and what omgus means etc, but not sure where.

Side note - playing like this is shitty. Not gonna mince my words here about it.

Huh. Is this like a Blitz or what have you all been doing with the day.

Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you here. I'd say the lynch today should realistically be someone in the bottom 50% of posts (I'm also aware this puts me in that mindset).

but still see genuinely overwhelmed newbscum as a possibility.

Go into this?

[Noraa]

I'd say the lynch today should realistically be someone in the bottom 50% of posts

ok but who

[Hiraki]

nopointinactingup (3) - Hiraki, Hopkirk, Trendall

not sure

[JacksonVirgo]

VC 1.6

Noraa (3)

- nopointinactingup, Glitch, Keita

nopointinactingup (2)

- Hiraki, Trendall

Trendall (2)

- Flubbernugget, PlusJOYED

PlusJOYED (2)

- derp, JohnnyFarrar

Keita (1)

- Noraa

Flubbernugget (1)

- Hopkirk

No Elimination (1)

- Staarling

Not Voting (3)

- beeboy

It takes 7 votes to hammer, meaning Noraa is at E-4

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-11-05 12:00:00)

Mod Notes:

• None owo

[JohnnyFarrar]

Go into this?

My first few scum games were riddled with me being insecure, unsure how to respond to people and genuinely fearful of those who talk a lot. I see all that here

Uh sir this is English pop music