Mini 619 - Ramen Mafia (Over!)

[melikefood]

I agree with a lynch on BB.

Vote Beyond_Birthday

Since Windkirby is killed, and charter was unable to protect him.
If BB turns up town I suggest we target Sthar8.

[charter]

I protected CWR last night, I thought the plan was I could protect whoever I wanted? I figured that he was the least likely to be scum and also pretty likely for a NK after outing Darla like that.

vote BB
That's lynch-1!

[strife220]

Yea, you weren't expected to protected WK last night because BB was expected to 'Jail' him.
But why Sthar8? Didn't he claim bulletproof townie? As in, the role that needed protection the least?


Would like to hold off on BB's lynch until he gets a word in.

[ClockworkRuse]

I protected CWR last night, I thought the plan was I could protect whoever I wanted? I figured that he was the least likely to be scum and also pretty likely for a NK after outing Darla like that.

vote BB
That's lynch-1!

Aw, thank you. But

Unvote

I would like to hear whatever he has to say before he swings. But he is the most probable scum at the moment.

I am going to look back for a little bit though, I just thought of something that seems a little off to me.

[sthar8]

strife, your post doesn't make any sense to me. Please explain.

B_B is most likely the last scum, and I'm ready for him to die as soon as he's checked in. There is a small possibility that charter is a scum roleblocker pretending to be the doc, or that we have a scum mason, but neither scenario is worth pursuing while we have a claimed jailer whose target died last night. I'll probably vote BB either as soon as he posts, or tomorrow night, whichever comes first.

CWR: If charter had protected WK as well, we would have gained no information from last night, as we wouldn't know if BB was lying about his protective ability. We lost a cop, sure, but since we know our last scum is a roleblocker of some kind, a cop wasn't going to do us much good anyway. Either BB is our last scum, or the remaining scum can both kill and RB.

[strife220]

What part doesn't make sense? I agree BB is most likely to be scum, but I don't want to lynch him before he speaks.

[sthar8]

Specifically

But why Sthar8? Didn't he claim bulletproof townie? As in, the role that needed protection the least?

I'm not sure what this is in reference to.

[strife220]

I protected CWR last night, I thought the plan was I could protect whoever I wanted? I figured that he was the least likely to be scum and also pretty likely for a NK after outing Darla like that.

vote BB
That's lynch-1!

Oops. Now I'm the one getting everyone mixed up. I thought Charter protected you, Sthar8. Turns out I just can't read

[strife220]

I protected CWR last night, I thought the plan was I could protect whoever I wanted? I figured that he was the least likely to be scum and also pretty likely for a NK after outing Darla like that.

vote BB
That's lynch-1!

Oops. Now I'm the one getting everyone mixed up. I thought Charter protected you, Sthar8. Turns out I just can't read.

[sthar8]

Oh ok, no problem.

Does anybody take issue with killing BB about 28 hours from now if he hasn't posted by then? I would like to hear from him, but I don't want him to hold up the game. I think he's the best lynch today and I can't think of anything that would change my mind.

[Beyond_Birthday]

Calm down Sthar8, jeez.

I had three papers to write yesterday, but nevermind that. It is completely irrelevant.

Anyway, as silly as it sounds, I am just going to make a few points before my lynch (which is the only way to give what I say merit except of the honor code which, admittedly, doesn't exist inside the town.)

1. Godfather and Goon died. With so much town power, there is probably a mafia roleblocker. If the RB knew that the doc wouldn't protect WK and that I would be both his safeguard and further my defense, he would probably RB me and then kill WK. Thus, I would be lynched the next day. This much has a 95% chance of being mafia's plan. The other 5% is the slight potential of four mafia players, but this is obviously very unlikely.

2. I did jail WK last night, anything else that occurred is beyond me. However, I cannot prove this except in my death which verifies my role. If town believes that my lynch is best due to the information we will gain, I have no problem against my lynch, so long as it will definitely help town. Considering the deadline of each day, I believe making the most of the day to find the potential scum to be the best so that tomorrow isn't rushed.

3.

Vote: BB

Obviously you didn't Jail WK as you were told and agreed to and with this kill you've done everything in your power to destroy any proof of your innocence.

I also fail to see why Charter didn't protect WK either way but for the time being BB is the better lynch in my mind.

What the hell? What moronic scum would ever destroy his own proof of innocence, no matter how flimsy. My little slogan *points angrily at stupid statement under avatar* doesn't make me a damn amateur.

As for Charter, Charter was told NOT to protect WK, assuming that Darla flips scum. Gah, you are being so stupid that I really wonder if you are trying some pathetic attempt as scum to push suspicions on people, planting seeds in the heads of the town.

Not to say I find Charter particularly guilty or innocent, but the statement is just moronic considering our failed plan.

In any case, I will check in either tonight or tomorrow to see the town's reaction. Do whatever you will till then.

[strife220]

Thanks BB. Care to say who you think the last scum is and why?


I think the chance of a 4-man scum group is low enough to not even consider, given that we have revealed a SK and a whatever-the-heck Oman was. The chance of there being a RBer who can both kill and block is not completely unrealistic.
However, if BB-scum is a RB that can only block or kill, I think it's a reasonable choice for him to kill WK and play the 'rb + kill' card; else, he'd never be able to make a NK for the rest of the game, since he'd be too busy blocking WK.

TLDR: I still think he's scum, I'll soon be voting him.



If BB does flip town, Charter's protection will be worthless, since scum will just role-block him and kill whoever they want. So there's no point in discussing night actions. A good re-read and a close look at the roles (CWR being the only one I'd consider 'confirmed') should reveal a lot.


Once BB says who he thinks scum is, I'll be ready for night.

[sthar8]

Sorry BB, I'm just a little excited to be going again after the long night. In any case, you've posted now, so my ultimatum is meaningless (I just didn't want to be sitting around waiting for you if you'd decided that you were giving up).

I agree with everything strife said, with the exception that there is a very slight possibility that CWR is scum. I'm 95% sure that its BB, but to be safe, we can't really rule anyone out.

[Beyond_Birthday]

I am not going to vote myself as plan A suicides, not plan B.

Now, who I think is scum. Well, let me see:

ClockWorkRuse (vanilla) Mafia conspiracy to claim vanilla: 35%
Sthar8 (Bulletproof) 32%
Food (mason 1) 2%
Strife (mason 2) 2%

Power Roles:

BB (Jailer) 0%
Charter (Doc) 29%

I think that is everyone who is alive. If so, that is my suspicions for mafia.

Since I refuse to vote myself, I will vote for my favorite for mafia.

Vote: Clockworkruse

[strife220]

Hey, BB's percentages actually add up to 100.

Thanks for the input.

Vote: BB

That's L-1. I'm happy with a lynch whenever.

[sthar8]

I'll hammer when I get up tomorrow, if no one has any objections and if it hasn't been done by then. (that would be 12-13 hours from now)

[ClockworkRuse]

I think I'm just going to hammer. There isn't any real reason not to at this point.

Vote BB

[Beyond_Birthday]

*Runs far away with my delcious soup.*

[Flameaxe]

Updates when I get home

[Flameaxe]

And by "when I got home" I meant "when I get home Friday".

Yeah...

[Flameaxe]

The Delayed Votecount!

BB [4] (Melikefood, Charter, Strife220, ClockworkRuse)

ClockworkRuse [1] (BB)

Not Voting [1] (Sthar8)

Beyond_ Birthday, Chicken Ramen, Jailkeeper, lynched Day Four.

48 hours.

[Flameaxe]

ONE MOMENT.

[Flameaxe]

Melikefood, Spicy Chicken Ramen, Mason, killed night four.

2 weeks starts now. With 4 alive it takes 3 to lynch.

[strife220]

Here's a paraphrase of a PM i sent to food last night, rather than re-typing everything out:



Last scum is Sthar8.
a) His claim. Everybody elses claim is fairly standard. Sthar8's claim is the odd one out. It gave him an excuse to breadcrumb doc and cop D1, with the option of claiming bulletproof in a situation where cop and doc were revealed
b) Nobody died N2. BB jailed Sthar8 N2. So either Sthar8 is scum and sent out the kill, or scum tried to kill Sthar8. Sthar8 hadn't breadcrumbed a power-role like everyone else did, so I find it unlikely that scum tried to kill him. It also makes sense that Sthar8, as roleblocker, wouldn't send in the kill the first night (with Muerrto the goon alive), but would send it in after Muerrto died.

I didn't re-read the game, but I imagine the situation would fit pretty well. The only other option is that Charter (doc) is scum, which seems unlikely.



Food agreed with me

[ClockworkRuse]

I can agree with that too but as it stands I don't want to count anyone out.

I do agree that of the remaining claims, his does stand out a bit. However, I'm still wondering about charter too. I don't really have the time to re-read right now. Just oicing my opinion for the moment.