killa seven (1): TDC
BridgesAndBaloons (1): TheSweatPantsNinja
TDC (1): killa seven
jonathantan86 (1): BridgesAndBaloons
Alabaska J (1): CallMeLiam
CallMeLiam (1): Alabaska J
Not voting (1): jonathantan86
With 7 alive it is 4 to lynch.
I just noticed this.TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:
That's not acting too townie, that's putting a lot of effort into appearing pro-town without actually providing the town with much.
I subscribe to this view. Its all the. . . pageantry you added to it. Like you really wanted people to see how much work you had done. That's why I'm saying you're putting work intobab wrote: b) If I were scum, I could easily post the work I did pre-game anyway, and hoped that WIFOM would make me unlynchable.
I was pretty proud. I usually right huge preambles or stuff like that when I do work that I'm proud of. An example of this is my second game, Mini 553 posts 486-489 where I posted a massive summary of the game when I came in (it's probably not worth it to read the posts). I made several posts before the summary talking about all the work I was doing, and during the summary I mentioned all the reasoning behind why I thought a certain player was not a pro-town power role and expressed that I did a whole lot of work.Like you really wanted people to see how much work you had done.
If you had posted an excellent, detailed, attack on someone else, that would have been great. Posting that you had a great idea and then going on about whether or not you should reveal your reasoning, that's not really pro-town.bab wrote: That game I was a townie. I wasn't trying to apear pro-town. It was just a by product of me being proud of the work I did. This game is the same case.
This. Lurking and playing quiet as a power role is a great way to show everyone you're a power role.TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:Um. . . no. Pro-town powerroles ought to attempt to hunt scum like everyone else. Having noncontributing powerroles is an excellent way to get powerroles outed.
I rarely like hunting for reactions as a townie play anyway, but fair point.jonathantan86 wrote:There are tactics like "hunting for reactions" that townies rather than power roles should use.
1) I think that the scum's best plan is to have at least one member (maybe the other can avoid controversy) actively engage in conversation to weed out powerroles, probing if necessary, even if it means risking a scum-tell. (The numbers are in an earlier post.) Do you agree with me?
2) Supposing I'm right (even if you think I'm not), who fits the profile above the most?
Are you saying TSN put himself in the center of discussion? (Yes or no answer, please).CallMeLiam wrote: As for the BaB\TSN thing: I honestly don't think scum would put themselves knowingly at the centre of discussion so early and so strongly that early in the game.
jonathantan86 wrote:I will put a vote on killa seven to pressure him to speak. I do not mean to lynch the lurker just yet though.
I ignored this question because the answer is super obvious imo.1) I think that the scum's best plan is to have at least one member (maybe the other can avoid controversy) actively engage in conversation to weed out powerroles, probing if necessary, even if it means risking a scum-tell. (The numbers are in an earlier post.) Do you agree with me?
2) Supposing I'm right (even if you think I'm not), who fits the profile above the most?
I'm saying you did, not TSN.BridgesAndBaloons wrote:Are you saying TSN put himself in the center of discussion? (Yes or no answer, please).
I understand where you're coming from, but disagree.BridgesAndBaloons wrote: Also, what you said isvery anti-town. Please NEVER AGAIN mention if you think someone is townie again. Do not say any things that make someone pro-town until after the mass-claim. Thank you very much. Please tell me if you don't understand.
I am trying to say that I don't expect scum to put themselves in the centre of the game. If in fact your logic was skewed to help scum you'd have to know that someone would see it, and if it helped the town then I don't think scum would be eager to make their lives harder.BridgesAndBaloons wrote:Secondly, that's just wrong. I always put myself in the center of discussion regardless of whether I'm scum or not. What you're saying here is complete WIFOM. What were you trying to accomplish by saying this?
I agree. That makes just as little sense as "powerroles should stay quiet." If people's role were truly predictable byBab wrote: Secondly, that's just wrong. I always put myself in the center of discussion regardless of whether I'm scum or not. What you're saying here is complete WIFOM. What were you trying to accomplish by saying this?
I'm having a really hard time trying to think of a townie explanation for that, and an easy time thinking of a whole lot of scummy explanations.what were you trying to accomplish by saying this?
I would agree with most of that, but I have to wonder how Alabaska ended up in the noisy category.TheSweatpantsNinja wrote: I feel that alabaska, me, and bab, have all been relatively noisy, and cml, jt, slaine, and tdc have been relatively quiet.
(These estimations were made with no research whatsoever).
Not sure what you're saying there, youBridgesAndBaloons wrote: We have a bunch of lurkers to fit the second profile, and I don't think me singling one lurker out is pro-town. If you insist, I will, but I don't think it's pro-town for me to say so.
CML wrote: [Talking about BaB]
I honestly don't think scum would put themselves knowingly at the centre of discussion so early and so strongly that early in the game.
How have you come to the conclusion that BaB does not have this "keen analytical mind"?CML wrote: The trick is to lurk without seeming to and that's very hard to master or to seemingly help the town but actually steer them wrong and this requires a very keen analytical mind which not everyone has.
TSN seemed to be suspicious of you, and I was explaining why I wasn't.BridgesAndBaloons wrote:CML. It's a simple question.what were you trying to accomplish by saying this?
At the moment the player I think is scummiest is MIA from the thread with a concussion so I'm just trying to keep my head in the game until he returns. Killa's lack of action isn't something I feel compelled to label as scummy yet, but it's not helpful.BridgesAndBaloons wrote:You wanna know a good way to lurk without getting caught? Discuss the strategy of lurking without actually scum-hunting. Oh wait a second...
FOS: CML
I have not come to any such conclusion. BaB's logic is solid and if he is misleading us with his statistics I can't see it.TDC wrote:CML wrote: [Talking about BaB]
I honestly don't think scum would put themselves knowingly at the centre of discussion so early and so strongly that early in the game.How have you come to the conclusion that BaB does not have this "keen analytical mind"?CML wrote: The trick is to lurk without seeming to and that's very hard to master or to seemingly help the town but actually steer them wrong and this requires a very keen analytical mind which not everyone has.
I still don't understand what is pro-town about defending someone, ESPECIALLY when they are in no immediate threat of being lynched.CallMeLiam wrote: TSN seemed to be suspicious of you, and I was explaining why I wasn't.
How did you conclude he's town then?CallMeLiam wrote:I have not come to any such conclusion. BaB's logic is solid and if he is misleading us with his statistics I can't see it.TDC wrote:CML wrote: [Talking about BaB]
I honestly don't think scum would put themselves knowingly at the centre of discussion so early and so strongly that early in the game.How have you come to the conclusion that BaB does not have this "keen analytical mind"?CML wrote: The trick is to lurk without seeming to and that's very hard to master or to seemingly help the town but actually steer them wrong and this requires a very keen analytical mind which not everyone has.