Open 778: Nightless Vanilla [Game Over!]

[northsidegal]

Votecount 9.2

Target	Wagon
Isis (2)	humaneatingmonkey (3768), Elements (3789)
humaneatingmonkey (1)	Looker (3658)
Not Voting (2)	Green Crayons, Isis

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch. The Day 9 deadline is in (expired on 2020-06-02 13:09:59).

[Isis]

I have all sorts of theory opinions about this topic I'd want to say postgame but I'm not sure whether they serve my wincon right now.

can you explain this now?

I sure can, it's pretty moot with votato dead. I strongly feel the best strategy in nightless is to push the easy mislynches and leave strong players alive. Lynching strong players will be very hard, and the harder a lynch is the more you degraded your standing in pushing it through. Additionally, in endgame players are going to naturally trend towards paranoia on those slots.
The idea that you need to lynch strong players to win the nightless game is flawed. If it is a nightless game that scum are going to win, the best townies won't be on their A-game. Strong townies on their B-game are still hard to lynch, and are still at their most perceptive when they are reading a push they know is on town (themselves). They aren't as deadly if you pocket them or leave them in your PoE and push them gently in the ending scenario.

Votato is a pretty new player so I think he could benefit somewhat from this spiel, but I didn't see much upside on the other side of it.

[Green Crayons]

Okay I promise to actually play this game tomorrow.

[Green Crayons]

In the meanwhile,

Happy birthday GC!

Thanks!

[Isis]

oh happy birthday

[Elements]

happy birthday

[northsidegal]

Votecount 9.Final

Target	Wagon
Isis (2)	humaneatingmonkey (3768), Elements (3789)
humaneatingmonkey (1)	Looker (3658)
Not Voting (2)	Green Crayons, Isis

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch. Nobody was lynched.

[northsidegal]

Day 10 begins.

Votecount 10.0

Target	Wagon
Not Voting (5)	humaneatingmonkey, Elements, Green Crayons, Isis, Looker

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch. The Day 10 deadline is in (expired on 2020-06-09 18:28:59).

[Isis]

How come there's not a detailed description of the sun setting and me turning into a vampire bat and slipping out of my noose and fluttering away to live another day?

[Isis]

VOTE: Elements

[Isis]

This was my top townread before but I just wonder if I'm reading the tea leaves backwards.

His read progressions don't make sense and seem backwards.

In his iso he seems to give reasoning when he voted townies and just vote when he voted scum. I think it looks like level zero poor associative play even if his independent play looks pretty townish this game.
I don't think he voted me here as town when looker is so easy to lynch and I've "pocketed" him. It seems like he needed game acceleration badly enough that he'll break character because he was utr for a moment in his life.


I'm still on the position that townreading green Crayons has more value than anything else in my sort.

Cause Ali said he's town and I believe in em mostly. I independently feel like that too, most flipped townies have not scumread him. Please let him survive this game. It's a deserved win if he has a red pm

[Looker]

In the meanwhile,

Happy birthday GC!

Thanks!

Sorry I missed it. Happy birthday.

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• I don't see the benefit of NL'ing two days in row

VOTE: humaneatingmonkey
My PoE hasn't changed

[Isis]

Looker why do you think Green Crayons is the scummiest player after monkey?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Isis is scuuuuuum let's just lynch her

VOTE: Isis

[Elements]

VOTE: isis
alas I think hem is right

[Isis]

VOTE: Indium, Iodine, and Iridium

[humaneatingmonkey]

GC, flip Isis. I know you want to.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Make it the first thing you do when you wake up.

[Isis]

Why do you think I'm scum?

[Elements]

you roll pm

[Isis]

my role PM doesn't have Norwee, Deimos, or Cycle Men's name in it; look at the way I interacted with those players.

[Looker]

Looker why do you think Green Crayons is the scummiest player after monkey?

I don't want to spill anything until GC comes back and contributes, but, honestly I'm pretty sure this ends with HEM. I've already deprioritized this game and everything.

VOTE: Indium, Iodine, and Iridium

This was very clever. I smiled and chuckled.

[Green Crayons]

Well maybe I don't want to lynch Isis.

I'm really quite bad at closing games out.

[Green Crayons]

If I trust past-GC, I want Looker --> Isis --> Elements --> HEM.

[Green Crayons]

In his iso he seems to give reasoning when he voted townies and just vote when he voted scum. I think it looks like level zero poor associative play even if his independent play looks pretty townish this game.

This sounds like what FB was saying.