| Target | Wagon |
|---|---|
Deimos27 (1) | Isis (3156) |
Isis (1) | humaneatingmonkey (3129) |
Firebringer (1) | Looker (2932) |
humaneatingmonkey (1) | Elements (3290) |
Not Voting (3) | Deimos27, Green Crayons, Firebringer (3198) |
In post 3195, Green Crayons wrote:Looker who is scum team.
The wagon didn't last that long, but the fact that it didn't get further than L-3 still increases the likelihood that there's at least one scum on it. Out of GC/FB, GC's push felt far more opportunistic — checking first for others to initiate the wagon (358) before joining in with what amounts to a naked vote (404). The possible town motivation I give in this quote (pressuring me into providing an explicit readslist and vote) doesn't seem correct because it's not how GC explained himself. The probabilities to weigh are therefore {GC is opportunistic scum} vs {GC is town that scumread Deimos} but his whole case about me being IIoA and not pushing my reads, when all my catch-up was chock-full of analysis and questioning people (the purpose of which is precisely to develop my reads, if not to "push" them), is still bizarre to me.In post 588, Deimos27 wrote:1. Firebringer
Firebringer has a fluffy meta that he has equity not to break as scum (correct me if I'm wrong that a long ISO analysis is rather uncharacteristic of him) unless heneedshis wagon to catch traction or heneedsto be townread. The top three wagons were tied against not-Firebringer. This means there was no real threat to him, and unless the scumteam is exactly Firebringer/Norwegian/votato/Green Crayons, scum!Firebringer had an easier target to push than Deimos.
Conclusion: scum!Firebringer -> unlikely
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4. Green Crayons
His vote timing is weird because he checks with Firebringer first whether "scum raccoon" means voteworthy, and only joins after the other three votes, which comes off as potential opportunism. I also don't see how any of Firebringer's points demonstrate scum-indicative behaviour, but then again, I didn't see how HEM quoting three scumleans is town-indicative, so it could be I just operate on a very different wavelength than Crayons. And there's plenty of town motivation to pressure me into producing a readslist and vote.
Conclusion: NAI
In post 787, NorwegianboyEE wrote:If Cycle Man is scum then Green Crayons is bussing. This is pretty bad.In post 783, Green Crayons wrote:What convinced me most for the cycle vote is Deimos's wagon analysis. If you assume Deimos is town, I think the wagon analysis is the most convincing reason to vote someone.
I don't know, man. I'd need to ISO Elements before voting and I'm sort of being lazy and not doing that at the moment. Plus there's nobody else on that vote with you.
What do you think about a Norweig lynch?
How long are your days? Do you live on Venus?In post 3297, Firebringer wrote:I am going to do a re-read of this game sometime today. Please stay on the line and enjoy the elevator music while I am gone.
In post 3271, Isis wrote:im so pocketed rn
What does this mean? Are you saying that you're irrationally siding with a player because you're listening to music? Is it even possible to be pocketed while being aware you're being pocketed?In post 3272, Isis wrote:im listening to john mayer and being pocketedddd
What's the point of this other than to reset the votecount?
Can you link me this data?In post 3308, Isis wrote:I thought we had plurality lynch, but my statement is still true because hammering no lynch quicker reduces how much time we get total and data shows town wins more with shorter deadlines
| Target | Wagon |
|---|---|
Not Voting (7) | humaneatingmonkey, Deimos27, Elements, Green Crayons, Isis, Looker, Firebringer |
See look my name is up higher in the VC because I'm betterIn post 3317, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 6.Final
Target Wagon humaneatingmonkey (3129) Looker (2932) Elements (3290) Deimos27, Green Crayons, Firebringer (3198)
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Nobody was lynched.
It's a weird question to answer, because my townreads aren't usually based on behaviour that could be explained by pocketing, so it's sort of a relevance fallacy to bring up suspicion of such when that would only apply in the worlds where you're scum, and I've already narrowed those down quite a bit. The only tool I can immediately think of that returns false positives from pocketers is resonance, but even that has often enough involved you making the initial case (e.g. against Alisae) for me to trust its accuracy.In post 3316, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Deimos, aren't you a bit suspicious that Isis or I have pocketed you?
i live on a planet with 27 earth days equivalent of a dayIn post 3313, Elements wrote:How long are your days? Do you live on Venus?In post 3297, Firebringer wrote:I am going to do a re-read of this game sometime today. Please stay on the line and enjoy the elevator music while I am gone.