Mini 619 - Ramen Mafia (Over!)

[Flameaxe]

By the way, I'll be out of town From the 27th to the 30th. I should have some access, but very limited at best. I'll be checking for 48 hours during that time at least once.

[sthar8]

For face value, Sthar8's logic is pretty solid.

That's all I've got to say about that.

So we have one or two more scum, likely with some kind of power. If we only have one more scum, he's probably a roleblocker who gives up his kill in order to block.

I think that the "bottom ramen" thing is just a contrast with "top Ramen." In other words, I think it's a name for the scumgroup, not an indicator of number or power of scum.

I'm very suspicious of BB at the moment, because of his failure to counter and some of his behavior yesterday.

With regards to claiming, we already have enough soft claims that scum have plenty of direction on their kill, so we might as well get the information benefit.

I disagree with popcorn claiming, I think we should set a list and agree on it before claiming.

I would like to add any night choices or targets, plus justification, to the information required with each claim.

I propose:
CWR
BB
Darla
sthar8
Food
strife


Any objections or changes?

[melikefood]

Sure, I've got no problems here.
I'm going outside soon, not sure when I'll be back. I'll make my claim now?

[sthar8]

NO FOOD!

You will make your claim when you are told to.

I'm not sure what you mean by "going outside," but if you're going to be V/LA, you should let us know when to expect you back, then we will decide whether you should claim first.

[strife220]

That's almost exactly the order I would have game up with Sthar8. After mass-claim I'll be interested to hear how you read my mind.

[strife220]

EBWOP: The chances of there only being 2 scum in this whole game is pretty inconceivable. No lynch went off for a more interesting reason than 1RB alive

[melikefood]

By "Going outside" I meant a couple of hours.
I was thinking we would be at the opening of some store for at least that long.

[DarlaBlueEyes]

For face value, Sthar8's logic is pretty solid.

That's all I've got to say about that.

So we have one or two more scum, likely with some kind of power. If we only have one more scum, he's probably a roleblocker who gives up his kill in order to block.

I think that the "bottom ramen" thing is just a contrast with "top Ramen." In other words, I think it's a name for the scumgroup, not an indicator of number or power of scum.

I'm very suspicious of BB at the moment, because of his failure to counter and some of his behavior yesterday.

With regards to claiming, we already have enough soft claims that scum have plenty of direction on their kill, so we might as well get the information benefit.

I disagree with popcorn claiming, I think we should set a list and agree on it before claiming.

I would like to add any night choices or targets, plus justification, to the information required with each claim.

I propose:
CWR
BB
Darla
sthar8
Food
strife


Any objections or changes?

I'm fine with this list, and I agree about the 2 scum = unlikely unless there is a SK too, but the lack of kills so far would make me skeptical of that.

[windkirby]

Darla, don't you pay attention at all? aioqwe WAS SK, and I recieved no PM!

I'm fine with the list as well - I'm having trouble keeping up with all the soft claims anyways so it'd be difficult for me to choose who to go first. So I guess that means CR claims.

[strife220]

any reply from mod WK?

usually you get a 'no result' pm when a night action fails for whatever reason. Depending on the mod, of course

[windkirby]

No reply, the same response when I asked if there were any sanity guarantees. :\

[charter]

Can post tomorrow night. (dont want my third strike)

[Beyond_Birthday]

*Waits for CWR*
Actually, if people really thought about what I said, and the fact that I am "Chicken flavor," it should be pretty obvious what my role could be.

Anyway, I *guess* I can wait on CWR to post his role.

So, mine might have to wait till tomorrow night, but if I manage to get on the computer for a few seconds tomorrow, I will put in my role and explain later. (Touch screen computers require an on screen keyboard, which explains the small size and lack of grammar when I am at work.)

For now on, if I put a lot of thought into my post, making it important, I am going to end it with the "and" symbol, because no one ever seems to read it closely otherwise.

[sthar8]

BB, I've read

all

of your posts both carefully and closely, and no ampersand is going to change my habits in that regard. I wouldn't be so suspicious of you otherwise. And just because I see something doesn't mean I'm going to broadcast it in thread, unless I feel that it would be pro-town to do so.

If we have two scum living, that means we had four originally. That might be balanced with the large amount of town power, and I'm not discounting it, but one scum with the choice between power and kill

does

fit rather well with the evidence. In that case, I'm sure town will have some kind of disadvantage that we may or may not be able to see shortly.

If Clockwork has no objections, I think we're ready to start claims when he posts.

Remember, claim should include role name, role type, pertinent flavor, night choices, targets, and justification for targets.

[DarlaBlueEyes]

Darla, don't you pay attention at all? aioqwe WAS SK, and I recieved no PM!

I'm fine with the list as well - I'm having trouble keeping up with all the soft claims anyways so it'd be difficult for me to choose who to go first. So I guess that means CR claims.

I keep getting confused in this one. Very sorry.

so if we had a SK, wouldn't it seem unlikely in a 12 person game to also have the 3 scum some people are referring to? the goon/RB/Godfather hierarchy thing?

I'm kinda unfamiliar with anything outside of the 2 scum/1 SK or 3 scum set ups in a mini.

I too have been a bit confused by the soft claims and have more trouble differentiating players in this game than I ever had.

The mass-claim will be a very good thing I think.

[ClockworkRuse]

Of course I have objections and frankly I'm shocked that no one else has any.

[quoute="Strife220"]
For face value, Sthar8's logic is pretty solid.

That's all I've got to say about that.
[/quote]

First,
That doesn't change anything and frankly, since you do use good logic I'm wondering why you used that as an defense against my accusation of you outguessing the mod.


Second,
I'm going to be re-reading Strife220 and sthar8 after claims go through or while, apparently it's possible missed some buddy-buddy play.

Third,
Explain why you get to make the list? What makes you clear, to begin with? I'd prefer either WK create a list or we make on randomly with dice. I

do not like[/i] putting that choice in the hands of possible scum.

[strife220]

Sthar8 made the list, but everybody (except you) agrees. WK himself didn't have any objections, so presumably his list would look quite similar.

Claim please CWR

[ClockworkRuse]

Well, I will say for emphasis that I

do not like giving that power to an unconformable player.

But whatever.

I am Plain, Dry Ramen which is the actual vanilla of the game.

[strife220]

BB's up

[strife220]

EBWOP:

I am Plain, Dry Ramen which is the actual vanilla of the game.

Are you implying that you know there's only 1 vanilla in the game?

[ClockworkRuse]

EBWOP:

I am Plain, Dry Ramen which is the actual vanilla

flavor

of the game.

Are you implying that you know there's only 1 vanilla in the game?

^ Fixed.

No, that's how I know that the 'they have roles to claim with sent to them' is unlikely.

Plain, Dry Ramen is the actual vanilla flavor of the game. I'm supposing there are more then one vanilla as it wouldn't make much sense to me to have one vanilla, but at the same time you never know.

[windkirby]

Fair enough. BB's turn.

Actually, since people seem to want to give me some choice in the order, could we have food go before sthar? The list would then look like

CWR (plain, dry, vanilla)
BB
Darla
Food
sthar8
strife

I just think sthar is less likely to be scum so he should go further down on the list.

[ClockworkRuse]

Fair enough. BB's turn.

Actually, since people seem to want to give me some choice in the order, could we have food go before sthar? The list would then look like

CWR (plain, dry, vanilla)
BB
Darla
Food
sthar8
strife

I just think sthar is less likely to be scum so he should go further down on the list.

Why is sthar less likely to be scum?

[charter]

CWR, I don't understand why you would have a problem with the order, I assume it was because you were going first?

I guess I'll just wait for the rest of the massclaim before posting my thoughts.

[ClockworkRuse]

CWR, I don't understand why you would have a problem with the order, I assume it was because you were going first?

I guess I'll just wait for the rest of the massclaim before posting my thoughts.

Not at all in fact, I was all for claiming today and I'm fine with claiming.

I actually started thinking that I should have faked the vanilla flavor and try to catch scum copying it.

I have a problem with the order because I am suspicious of everyone who isn't cleared. And someone who isn't cleared made it. I don't feel comfortable giving possible scum

any

chance to manipulate the town. Do you?

My question still stands for WK, why is sthar more likely to be town the rest of us?