SSW III: Game over

[SleepyPanda]

O...oh dear.

Vote: donkeyz12212

[SleepyPanda]

GAHH. why is the tags broken? I did it right, I think.

It's biased against humans.

Unvote, Vote: ace1217

[SleepyPanda]

Then why didn't it work for you, huh? HUH?!

[SleepyPanda]

Unvote, Vote:Sleepy Panda.

Sleep is the enemy of speed.

I'll have you know that I am just as efficient, if not more so, when I am sleepy.

vote porkens

because your a human.

Welp, I have nothing more to say. Point proven.

Vote count

(16 players alive = 9 to lynch before deadline)
(2) Porkens – SpyreX, Lord Gurgi
(1) Lord Gurgi – cerebus3
(1) ace1217 – SleepyPanda
(1) SleepyPanda – M4yhem

Not voting:

ace1217, Battle Mage, Cass, CoheedCambria09, donkeyz12212, Empking, farside22, Grimmy, Porkens, Septia, Wall-E

Deadline:

Thursday 31 July 2:00 PM (GMT -5 according to forum clock)

[SleepyPanda]

hey folks

vote sleepy panda

Hi, why would you do something as silly as that?

[SleepyPanda]

I'll post after you too! What else can you do to me? D:<

[SleepyPanda]

I voted for you because you changed your vote on page 1. No other reason. Your overdefensiveness smells a bit humany to me, though.

Nono, I think you probably just caught your own scent.

Aren't you forgetting Mr. Gurgi as well then?

If asking why you voted for me when you didn't give a reason in the first place is overdefensive, then sure, I guess I am!

[SleepyPanda]

Well, I was hoping for some sort of witty comment as a justification for the random vote. Besides, it looks more like a srs bsns vote than a random vote with the reason he gave.

[SleepyPanda]

Unvote, Vote: Sleepy Panda

Wall-E didn't really did a reason. It's a random vote.

Also, did you forget that you were already voting me?

[SleepyPanda]

That joke is dumb. What the heck is a cinderblock petal?

[SleepyPanda]

Four cows were standing in a field, a mama cow and three baby cows. The first baby asked "Mama, why am I named Rose?" and mama replied "Because when you were born a rosepetal fell on your head, snookums." The second baby asked "Mama, why am I named daisy?" and mama replied "Because when you were born a daisy petal fell on your head, snookie wookie." The third cow said "VNOSKMNDQUCZSHAUFPWFJLS" and mama said "SHUT UP CINDERBLOCK!!"

Also, what made you choose me besides the two other people who had also changed their votes on the first page?

[SleepyPanda]

There's a difference between being defensive and overdefensive. You labeled me overdefensive from only asking why you voted for me. If you're going to paint me overdefensive from one response, that seems like a bit of a stretch.

Unless you didn't realize, I use "also" because I have been double posting and it's because I didn't include it in my first post.

Seems to me like all you're doing is trying to straw man.

Unvote;Vote Wall-E

[SleepyPanda]

Also, most of my "also" posts weren't used to "back" a point I'm making. They were to ask a question. You're implying I'm trying to make a case based on asking questions alone?

(Don't forget to make note that this post has "also" too.)

[SleepyPanda]

Also, when you say I was "erratic posting", you do realize that Mr. Gurgi has switched votes, as well as post more than I have (during the time you voted). All the posts I made after doesn't factor in as I was asking what made you choose me as your vote. Making up false claims are we?

(Uh oh.)

[SleepyPanda]

What if the mafia has already posted, BM? And the power roles haven't?
And why Panda for the lynch and not someone else?

because obviously you're totally serious about this.

Fos:Skruffs

for claiming his role without any pressure put on him.

I am totally serious about this. I was scum in the last game, and the thing that really killed us off was when the town quickly lynched and both my buddy and i didnt have time to submit an NK before the day was over. It allows us to confirm some people, and is a great way of scumhunting imo. People may have posted, and may be following the game, but it's unlikely that scum have decided an NK and submitted it yet.
I voted Panda because he had the highest amount of votes at the time obvobv. This is not the time to pussy-foot around. We need SPEED.

BM

Agreed. That is a good strategy. It happened in the first SSW game as well. I'll vote myself just in case.

Unvote;Vote: Sleepypanda

Vote: Sleepy panda

It was the random voting stage, poor logic is better than none.

Poor logic is better than what? Being defensive as he said? How is being defensive bad? It will get the game out of the random stage quicker, and seeing as how days only last 3 RL days, we should be getting out of it as soon as possible. I could just as easily respond to your posts with no seriousness at all, but that doesn't really help, does it?

[SleepyPanda]

I'll claim as well. I'm a regular werewolf. I'm still willing to mass switch onto Wall-E though. Whatever works.

[SleepyPanda]

It's for the greater good, nyeh?

The thing is, it's just a gamble. A gamble to see if we can lynch before any of the humans who are allowed to NK can send in the command. Obvious, if they active and notice what's going on, it falls apart, so hesitation is not what we want. It's beneficial if it works as you're lynching one potential human and also removing the NK. But if it does fail, it only hurts doubly so.

L-2.

[SleepyPanda]

I'm still for lynching Wall-E but I don't think it's very realistic to get 7 people to switch votes quick enough and have this tactic work. I'll hang around and vote myself if people still decide to go that way.

Unvote;Vote: Wall-E

[SleepyPanda]

I'm still for lynching Wall-E but I don't think it's very realistic to get 7 people to switch votes quick enough and have this tactic work. I'll hang around and vote myself if people still decide to go that way.

Unvote;Vote: Wall-E

If everyone who is voting you votes Wall-E, then we have a quick lynch. And If people backtrack on voteing wall-e when their reasoning to vote you was such, then we have scum.

But the time it takes for all of those people to switch votes onto Wall-E, it could give scum enough time to place an NK.

At this moment, we have everyone we need to lynch me already.

Vote count

(16 players alive = 9 to lynch before deadline)
(6) SleepyPanda – Wall-E, CoheedCambria09, Empking, Battle Mage, Cass, M4yhem
(3) Wall-E – donkeyz12212, cerebus3, SleepyPanda
(2) Porkens – SpyreX, Lord Gurgi
(1) cerebus3 – Porkens

Not voting:

ace1217, farside22, Grimmy, Septia

Deadline:

Thursday 31 July 2:00 PM (GMT -5 according to forum clock)

[SleepyPanda]

I don't think Wall-E has been inactive enough to be called...inactive. There are still people who haven't posted at all yet.

[SleepyPanda]

lynching along those lines don't move us closer to catching scum at all. What we are doing is essentially voting no-lynch in order to choose who the scum NK, if you follow. No real chance of catching scum, so we just lose a townie with absolutely no info to go off of.

Put it this way. Say the plan works and the scum don't get a NK, how are we in a better position to win tomorrow than we are today?

Lynching fast is okey by me, be we gain nothing by lynching people we think are town.

Mmm yeah, I see what you're saying.

[SleepyPanda]

This game moves quickly. I've never been suspicious of Mayhem really. SleepyPanda is off the cards. Wall E is most likely town too. Cerebus and Donkey are the two scumbags we must choose from today. What do you mean by 'more high profiled'?

You're assuming that both Wall-E and I are both town, but weren't you saying Cerberus doing the same thing was considered scummy? You seem pretty sure that Wall-E is now town, how are you so positive? It looks like all you're going off of is by association.

I still find Wall-E scummier than Cerebus or Donkey.

[SleepyPanda]

ROFL. I just read Wall-E's posts. Is he really being bandwagonned for making a random vote?

BM

Read it again.

It was a random vote when he had said nothing at all. When asked, he gave the reason that he voted me, which was for changing my vote on the first page. When asked why he chose me over the other two who had done the same thing (Mayhem, Cerberus) he added defensiveness and erratic posting. But those two factors should not even be considered when choosing as they happened AFTER he first voted.

[SleepyPanda]

Edit: Was suppose to add that when he gave a reason, it shows that it wasn't a random vote to begin with, if that wasn't already implied.

Also, my vote is currently on Wall-E.

Mod note:

Sorry about that, I've back tracked the vote counts and fixed it.

[SleepyPanda]

I think the best bet for a quick lynch today is the Wall-E wagon, we need the quick lynch.

so

unvote, vote Wall-E

What do you mean the best bet would be voting Wall-E? Wouldn't I still be the best bet as I have most votes?

[SleepyPanda]

What's the problem, Spyre-x? If we want to quicklynch, we need to all vote for the same person.

Grimmy- I got it the first time, I just don't see the point of you telling us that and find your lack of opinion scummy.

Quicklynching is pretty much a bad idea at this point. From my count, 11 people have come into this thread after the idea of quicklynching was brought up. That's almost 3/4's of the entire game.

[SleepyPanda]

People, people. I am an important role. Someone give me a lynch count and if I'm at L1 I will roleclaim.

I think you're only at like 6 votes, didn't double check though.

Quicklynch seemed to have already been out of the question, so you weren't really in danger of being lynched. Claiming a power role without saying what it is is just dangerous as roleclaiming, so I'm not sure what you were doing there. I would've preferred a defense instead of a claim.

[SleepyPanda]

Also

, Jesus what a bunch of touchy buttwipes. I was just pointing out a linguistic tendancy. It would be like if someone said "It's very, very important that you-" The second very kinda tips you off that it's important to THEM and not important in GENERAL. Things that are important are self-evidentiarilly so.

That's a completely different situation than my using "also". I was asking questions for clarification, not proving a point or stating anything important. You concluding that the reason I'm using the word "also" is purely because of nervousness is baseless. Did you consider that I was using the word for it's actually definition?

[SleepyPanda]

Unvote; Vote: Wall-E

L-1 Let's get this rolling. I'll learn not to sleep next time also.

Not sleep? *gasp*

[SleepyPanda]

Unvote; Vote: Wall-E

L-1 Let's get this rolling. I'll learn not to sleep next time also.

Not sleep? *gasp*

I got 14 hours of sleep last night. <3

...that's hot.

'scum' is an important role. Someone hammer.

Unvote; Vote: Wall-E

Done.

[SleepyPanda]

I may not have been completely serious.

unvote

Ace and Septia are the only ones who haven't checked in, which, assuming the standard 3 scum, means at least one mafia has already been here and had a chance to send in a kill. For that reason, I don't think BM's plan will work anymore.

I still think it was a good thing though, since it got the game moving.

I'll reread tomorrow and find something more solid to vote for.

That's quite convenient. You may not have been serious, but no one else knew that. They still could've hammered listening to you.

Why unvote now and state the obvious? I told you pretty much the same thing on page 5 but you didn't feel the need to unvote then?

I'm pretty sure most of the people on Wall-E's wagon at the moment aren't hoping for a lynch, but a claim, as he already claimed a power role. It looks like you were on his wagon for a completely different reason.

[SleepyPanda]

I think I'm lynched by some retards (or scum).

Anyway I'm a Werewolf Tracker. My role PM infers that I'm a seer.

Uhh, you aren't?

[SleepyPanda]

Honestly, I was enjoying the mindless bandwagonning. But then I started thinking about how I'd been playing and realized it was totally irresponsible.

You may have told me the same thing earlier but at that point I wasn't really listening.

I understand Wall-E needs to claim, we can't just let him get away with softclaiming, but I don't want to vote for him anymore.

So you can NK him instead?

[SleepyPanda]

Oops, forgot my

Unvote; Vote: M4yhem

.

[SleepyPanda]

Is having fun suppose to be a valid reason for some of your actions? Because if it is, my vote isn't going to move.

[SleepyPanda]

So whenever you're scum, no matter what kinds of scummy things you've done, you can attribute them to just having fun? Boy, I need to try that out sometime!

You want to try something else that's quite fun? Getting lynched! You'll get a thrill like no other!

Vote count

(16 players alive = 9 to lynch before deadline)
(5) Wall-E – donkeyz12212, cerebus3, CoheedCambria09, Cass, Lord Gurgi
(3) M4yhem – farside22, SpyreX, SleepyPanda
(2) SleepyPanda – Wall-E, Empking
(2) cerebus3 – Porkens, Battle Mage

Not voting:

ace1217, Grimmy, M4yhem, Septia

Deadline:

Thursday 31 July 2:00 PM (GMT -5 according to forum clock)

[SleepyPanda]

On the other hand, I really enjoy doing random crazy things and BM's plan seemed like it would deliver lols. And if it worked, it would be really cool,

Meta to prove please. I get the impression this isn't your first time doing something like this. If so, then it should be easy for you to provide me with games where you have done other "crazy" things such as this (when you are town).

[SleepyPanda]

I think I'm lynched by some retards (or scum).

Anyway I'm a Werewolf Tracker. My role PM infers that I'm a seer

Uhh, you aren't?

I've never played with a tracker before. What's a tracker do?

(I usually play this game offline so I'm still really new to online wolf. I thought I was the seer. Also from now on I'll be making my night actions public since I claimed. Tracking Battle Mage tonight.)

As to people saying my "Also" post was scummy... I was trying to stir the water. Which I accomplished. I no longer believe SP is a wolf based on several things. I don't think SP is so good at being scum she'd fake many of the posts she made.

Unvote. Vote: M4yhem.

When I said you aren't, I was referring to you being lynched.

YOU'RE the tracker. How about you tell us what you do?

[SleepyPanda]

It's not so easy because I just started posting here a few weeks back after a long absence. It used to happen all the time but those games seem to have been purged from the archives.

I did find this:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... ght=m4yhem
which shows my scum play at its finest and might help you with my alignment now.

I don't think you read my post all that carefully, can reread again please?

Meta to prove please. I get the impression this isn't your first time doing something like this. If so, then it should be easy for you

to provide me with games where you have done other "crazy" things such as this (when you are town)

.

[SleepyPanda]

I'm not trying to be difficult. But when you're providing a game where you've done something similar, AS SCUM, it doesn't help your case here, does it?

[SleepyPanda]

Also, it says your join date is August '06. When I checked your post history, your first game seems to still be there.

[SleepyPanda]

Yes, if you click that "Profile" button under your posts, there's a "Find all posts" link.

So, you're saying you've done something similar (by similar I mean intentionally hurt town when you are town as well, for the sake of fun) in all of your early games? I'll find something like that in, which I think is your first game, Newbie 260?

[SleepyPanda]

Well I do see some blatant OMGUS votes and some all together silly votes, but those were all games from ages ago. I was at least hoping for something more recent. I don't think you can say your playstyle is the same now as when you first started.

[SleepyPanda]

The Wall-E vote seems sound to me.

Unvote: cerebus3, Vote: Wall-E

Reason?

Also, what do you think of M4yhem?

[SleepyPanda]

Reason?

Mostly because of this exchange:

I think I'm lynched by some retards (or scum).

Anyway I'm a Werewolf Tracker. My role PM infers that I'm a seer.

Uhh, you aren't?

I don't get it. You don't believe his claim or something?

Also, what do you think of M4yhem?

I think it was incredibly scummy to stop the wagon like that. If Wall-E Flips mafia, FoS on M4yhem.

You think he's scummy for getting OFF the wagon? Would you have been satisfied lynching Wall-E without a claim when he already softclaimed a power role?

[SleepyPanda]

I guess

I

don't get it. I interpreted your response as a refutation.

I understand the confusion now. I cleared it up in post 157. It's a bit higher up on this page.

For being full on a wagon for one player and hopping off for another at L-1?

M4yhem only unvoted, he didn't hop on anyone else's wagon afterwards. It looks like he also unvoted because of other people pressuring him.

I think it was incredibly scummy to stop the wagon like that. If Wall-E Flips mafia, FoS on M4yhem.

I don't know if you missed that post by M4yhem when he asked for someone to hammer, but would you still find him suspicious if Wall-E was scum?

would I have been satisfied lynching Wall-E without a claim (from Wall-E?) when he (Wall-E again?) had already softclaimed a power role? Yeah, I'd have been satisfied with that considering you refuted his hard claim.

When M4yhem got off Wall-E's wagon, Wall-E had only softclaimed a power role. He didn't say what he was though. Would you have been satisfied lynching without letting him claim?

I'm back and ready to play.

Will read up on the thread. I'm sure nothing big has happened yet though.

Morning sleepyhead.

Vote count

(16 players alive = 9 to lynch before deadline)
(5) Wall-E – donkeyz12212, cerebus3, CoheedCambria09, Cass, Lord Gurgi
(5) M4yhem – farside22, SpyreX, SleepyPanda, Wall-E, Porkens
(1) SleepyPanda – Empking
(1) cerebus3 – Battle Mage

Not voting:

ace1217, Grimmy, M4yhem, Septia

Deadline:

Thursday 31 July 2:00 PM (GMT -5 according to forum clock)

[SleepyPanda]

That is all I got. There is nothing more. I thought I was making my role clear by assuming you all knew what a "tracker" did. So nobody does, huh? I think I'm a seer then, since I will assume this means I can tell who's talking to whom. The only people able to talk to each other are scum.

We all knew, we just wanted to know if you knew.

It's confirmable, so you have no worries. Unless you die of course.

[SleepyPanda]

*facepalm*

You guys are complete idiots. Guess how i can tell?

Firstly you just outted a power role for NO reason. Secondly, the only other wagon is on 1 of the major contributors to the game. And there are no bandwagons on Donkey or Cerebus. I wish i was a Dayvig now, because i'd have a field day. 0.o

idiots....

BM

Are we the ones that made him softclaim a power role when he was at L-3 with the deadline at over 3 days still? No.

Did him softclaiming exempt him from being NKed? No.

In fact, he made himself the top NK candidate when he softclaimed. Yeah, I guess when someone acts scummy we should just let them be just in case they decides to claim for no reason.

So he made a random vote. You acted over-defensively. Random vote stays on you. Your case seems to be that he random-voted you over the other players in the game, which is a pretty weak argument given the nature of a random vote as being RANDOM.

BM

Please explain to me how his vote is random when he gave a reason. If it was random, he would've just said so, plain and simple. He gave reasons for every question I asked him. If it was indeed random, he should've stopped at one point. It was not random.

[SleepyPanda]

[quote="BM]
Ok, so now Wall-E is confirmed innocent, are you going to join me in a Cerebus/Donkey wagon? [/quote]
No? Wall-E isn't confirmed innocent. He just claimed so. Unless it is refuted by other people later on, I still find him slightly suspicious, albeit lower than yesterday.

[SleepyPanda]

Revision for last post:

Ok, so now Wall-E is confirmed innocent, are you going to join me in a Cerebus/Donkey wagon?

No? Wall-E isn't confirmed innocent. He just claimed so. Unless it is

backed

by other people later on, I still find him slightly suspicious, albeit lower than yesterday.

[SleepyPanda]

[quote="BM]
Ok, so now Wall-E is confirmed innocent, are you going to join me in a Cerebus/Donkey wagon?

No? Wall-E isn't confirmed innocent. He just claimed so. Unless it is refuted by other people later on, I still find him slightly suspicious, albeit lower than yesterday.

I presume you mean 'confirmed' rather than 'refuted'. If it's confirmation you want, it's confirmation you get. I'm 99.5% sure that Wall-E is town. In fact, a similar assurity as i have regarding your townieness. So, make yourself useful, take your vote off him, and put it on 1 of the two outted scumbags.

kthxbai

BM[/quote][/quote][/quote]
Vote has been off him for some time, nyeh?

[SleepyPanda]

Aw yeah, started a broken tag chain reaction. Fufufu.

[SleepyPanda]

In that case, why wont you hop aboard the Cerebus-Donkey train?

BM

But I prefer my shiny new M4yhem wagon.

[SleepyPanda]

In that case, why wont you hop aboard the Cerebus-Donkey train?

BM

But I prefer my shiny new M4yhem wagon.

is there a case, other than the fact he is active and does what he is told?

BM

Page 7, post 151.

[SleepyPanda]

What does the phrase parroting mean to you? I don't think anyone else is looking into it as much as you are. If this game wasn't nightless, then maybe I'd find it suspicious as it could be used as a secret code, but seeing as how scum can talk during day, it's moot here.

What do you think about M4yhem's case?

p.s. Battle Mage has been a good sport. SWARM SWARM SWARM.

[SleepyPanda]

The way this game works, if you get under pressure and you have a power role, you MUST claim asap. I'd rather see a tracker get NKed than lynched, and dont forget, theres a very good chance we have a doctor still hidden out there somewhere.

BM

This is precisely why I did what I did.

My votes were not random. I never claimed they were. I didn't roll any dice to determine who I'd vote for. I used pure gut instinct. Like I always do on day freaking one. Jebus.

See, wasn't a random vote. Suspicion stays.

[SleepyPanda]

The way this game works, if you get under pressure and you have a power role, you MUST claim asap. I'd rather see a tracker get NKed than lynched, and dont forget, theres a very good chance we have a doctor still hidden out there somewhere.

BM

This is precisely why I did what I did.

My votes were not random. I never claimed they were. I didn't roll any dice to determine who I'd vote for. I used pure gut instinct. Like I always do on day freaking one. Jebus.

See, wasn't a random vote. Suspicion stays.

What part of 'confirmed innocent' are you not understanding?

0.o

BM

I guess both parts.

It's not like I'll be voting Wall-E again today. That will never happen, so there's no point really taking this any further.

[SleepyPanda]

It's not like I'll be voting Wall-E again

today

. That will never happen, so there's no point really taking this any further.

[SleepyPanda]

It's not like I'll be voting Wall-E again today. That will

never

happen, so there's no point really taking this any further.

If there is a chance that you EVER vote Wall-E again, we need to sort this out now. I dont want this going to endgame and you throwing it away for us.

BM

Still don't see why you know that he's without a doubt town. Can he not fake claim? All I want is proof later on that he is indeed telling the truth.

[SleepyPanda]

are you an Suicide bomber BM?

It's not official until he does the accompanied sound effects.

[SleepyPanda]

im curious to see what happens now too.

unless im supposed to turn into a mindless zombie and start to strangle cerebus and eat his brains...


come to think of it..
I AM a but hungry....




Grimmy
Brainzzzzzzz...

Zombies generally come from humans, right? Are you softclaiming something?

[SleepyPanda]

im curious to see what happens now too.

unless im supposed to turn into a mindless zombie and start to strangle cerebus and eat his brains...


come to think of it..
I AM a but hungry....




Grimmy
Brainzzzzzzz...

Zombies generally come from humans, right? Are you softclaiming something?

It looks like he is joking to me. I didn't see a bomber last SSW game. BM since the mod hasn't said anything are you a some sort of self destruct wolf or something?

I know, I was too.

I have to say that Johoohno is a very good mod, but give him some time at least.

I bet BM is wrong.

[SleepyPanda]

It's not like I'll be voting Wall-E again today. That will

never

happen, so there's no point really taking this any further.

If there is a chance that you EVER vote Wall-E again, we need to sort this out now. I dont want this going to endgame and you throwing it away for us.

BM

Still don't see why you know that he's without a doubt town. Can he not fake claim? All I want is proof later on that he is indeed telling the truth.

You werent in the previous SSW were you? neither was he. So neither of you would know that that exact role featured prominently in that game. It seems very odd to me that from 2 or 3 power roles Johoohno is known to have used in this game before, he would pick 1 exactly as it is, with the correct mechanic and everything. He's confirmed.

BM

I wasn't in the previous SSW, but I still have access to that information. I checked it before I started playing this. The mod even has a link to it at the start of the game. From how I see it, there was more than one tracker. That makes it easily believable so counterclaiming will be useless. He also has the role PM to know what he should say.

[SleepyPanda]

The previous game also had a mafia tracker. How is that not an exception to believing him without a doubt?

[SleepyPanda]

Ok, now I'm confused.

You can retract your kill?

You were berating us when Wall-E claimed, but you basically do the same on your own will?

[SleepyPanda]

I would believe being able to retract if it wasn't a nightless game. I don't buy it when you're saying you're allowed to retract due to the mod not being here in realtime to take note of it.

You basically revealed yourself without killing your most suspicious person, who you seem to think is still the most suspicious, for no reason. What did you gain from that bluff?

[SleepyPanda]

Lol, i'm not worried about me. I'm merely speculating regarding YOU!
If you admit your vote was wrong, why is it still there? Are you worried it'll make you look even worse to take it back now?

I assume a suicidal dayvig would be a less optimal NK than a Tracker, fyi.

BM

I really don't like this post. I don't believe your claim and now you're trying to save yourself from a potential NK.

[SleepyPanda]

God, this is so annoying!

I really think the entire case on me is idiotic. Scum players do not act the way I've been acting. I don't care if you say it's wifom, scum don't like attention so they would never do the things that I've been doing.

So I bandwaggoned a few people, so what? So did most of the town. The only difference is I was honest about my reasons for doing so and for this honesty you are going to kill me.

Why can't you see that it is the people who bandwagon without advertising it that are the dangerous ones? I am simply their latest target of opportunity.

It's because the way you've acted no way benefits town at all. But, it does benefit scum. You chalk it up to just messing around, but why? All of a sudden you decide to do so? It seems very illogical to me.

[SleepyPanda]

I can see how a hammer on an unclaimed powerrole would help scum. What I can’t see is how asking openly for a hammer on an unclaimed powerrole would help me if I was scum.

If scum have the foresight to see how every action will affect them, they would never lose. Maybe you're just a bad scum player, I don't know.

Is the risk of keeping you around, not knowing if you could be scum, worth it? Vanillas are expendible, especially ones that have claimed. Your only worth to the town now is being part of the body count.

[SleepyPanda]

Ok, disregard my last post then.

[SleepyPanda]

Just finished reading. I dont understand why M4yhem is still alive but Vote M4yhem .

That's a pretty good reason for a hammer.

Shouldn't you FOS yourself as well?

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Oops, the last post was mine.

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When he first claimed tracker, he was even asking what it does.

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Those were some aweshum quick lynches. o.o

Good job~

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Why didn't Jebus use any of his night actions? >>